Electionstrut 2024

Grafwritah2Grafwritah2 17 Posts
edited November 6 in Strut Central
And.... go.
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  • DORDOR Two Ron Toe 9,903 Posts
    Something tells me a lot of people aren't going to be happy tomorrow and complain and a lot of people will be ecstatic and we will have some saying the fix was in.

  • FrankFrank 2,373 Posts
    I like the halloween theme of the opening episode. The great Pumpkin returns, sidekick villain Musk is set to streamline the US government and RFK lays in wait as angel of death to become the new minister of health. This season is going to be off the charts

  • JimsterJimster Cruffiton.etsy.com 6,949 Posts
    Thoughts and Roy Ayers.

    I just don't understand why, based on his human character alone, anyone would want DT.  

    Musk and corporate greed will set the policy by proxy.  It's probably not a different storyline with KH but AFAIK, she was human at some point.



  • I don't pretend to comprehend each and every voter's muddle of intentions, but historically shit like this happens when a country is in what you might call terminal decline. I don't really want to know what the terminal decline of a stronger superpower than history has ever seen with 750 military bases around the world looks like but I suspect I will find out

  • ketanketan Warmly booming riffs 3,158 Posts
    water defluoridation for everyone!  

      

  • BlastmanBlastman Old soul. Wrong vessel. 18 Posts
    I'm not old enough to vote, but I am not dumb, I don't like the feeling i'm getting from Donald Trumps possible plans... I haven't seen enough of you guys to really gauge whether SoulStrut is "left or right" but considering the origins of the genre, I'd hope most of us are really scared for our country. I don't like being political because it is really extreme a lot of the time, I just feel like this is different.

  • Blastman said:
    I'm not old enough to vote, but I am not dumb, I don't like the feeling i'm getting from Donald Trumps possible plans... I haven't seen enough of you guys to really gauge whether SoulStrut is "left or right" but considering the origins of the genre, I'd hope most of us are really scared for our country. I don't like being political because it is really extreme a lot of the time, I just feel like this is different.


    Nah your instincts are both correct. With some exceptions the Strut has not been a conservative crowd; and more importantly, "this is different" is right too.

    I think since like 1945 there's been an illusion in the US that "we are the superpower, we control the world, we are competent, we are strong" and it's painful for a lot of generations that lived through what felt like stability provided by those things to face up to the fact that the States is not in a permanent meteoric rise. It's a construction of history just like any other empire. 

    This inability to handle historical change comes from early on in life - how history is taught to us, as if the founding documents, the ideas of a bunch of slavemasters, are tantamount to gospel and can withstand any historical forces. A lot of disillusionment from older generations is turning into ugly instincts. A lot of this has precedent in history elsewhere, it shouldn't come as a surprise really, but "it can't happen here" is rapidly getting proven wrong wherever it might've been applied in the past.

    I think there's a lot more people can do about it than they know though. Voting is something that takes like an hour once every few years. Assuming you're not already worth billions, building political power, group power, the power to defend and support yourself and your community, takes longer than that but can't be taken away as easily. You don't have to be 18 (or a citizen) to start that either.


  • ElectrodeElectrode Los Angeles 3,122 Posts
    For the most part, I avoid political talk too because it's as pointless as discussing religion. Also, I am a big defender of "most people in the US aren't like that!". But I am really disappointed with a large percentage of the country who let "owning the libs" or "my groceries cost more than they did years ago" to be more important than common decency. And once again, a fraction of eligible voters (1/3, I think) sat it out for whatever stupid reason. Life goes on, but this is like a punch to the gut.

  • BlastmanBlastman Old soul. Wrong vessel. 18 Posts
    Blastman said:
    I'm not old enough to vote, but I am not dumb, I don't like the feeling i'm getting from Donald Trumps possible plans... I haven't seen enough of you guys to really gauge whether SoulStrut is "left or right" but considering the origins of the genre, I'd hope most of us are really scared for our country. I don't like being political because it is really extreme a lot of the time, I just feel like this is different.


    Nah your instincts are both correct. With some exceptions the Strut has not been a conservative crowd; and more importantly, "this is different" is right too.

    I think since like 1945 there's been an illusion in the US that "we are the superpower, we control the world, we are competent, we are strong" and it's painful for a lot of generations that lived through what felt like stability provided by those things to face up to the fact that the States is not in a permanent meteoric rise. It's a construction of history just like any other empire. 

    This inability to handle historical change comes from early on in life - how history is taught to us, as if the founding documents, the ideas of a bunch of slavemasters, are tantamount to gospel and can withstand any historical forces. A lot of disillusionment from older generations is turning into ugly instincts. A lot of this has precedent in history elsewhere, it shouldn't come as a surprise really, but "it can't happen here" is rapidly getting proven wrong wherever it might've been applied in the past.

    I think there's a lot more people can do about it than they know though. Voting is something that takes like an hour once every few years. Assuming you're not already worth billions, building political power, group power, the power to defend and support yourself and your community, takes longer than that but can't be taken away as easily. You don't have to be 18 (or a citizen) to start that either.

    I really appreciate this sort of commenting, this really helps me understand better. I feel like the reaction is coming across as "they can't do this" in place of what they are actually feeling "how is this possible." I don't really understand how people see the choice between the two as such a hard one, trump is not like a bad person in the metaphorical sense that he "doesn't stand for me or you, yada yada" but in the sense that he is literally a criminal. The amount of people that actually voted is like half of the people that live here, and that was more than normal for this election. 


  • billbradleybillbradley You want BBQ sauce? Get the fuck out of my house. 2,905 Posts
    I'm hopeful that things will actually improve on some levels but expect that people will still hate Trump no matter what he does.

  • BlastmanBlastman Old soul. Wrong vessel. 18 Posts
    Electrode said:
    For the most part, I avoid political talk too because it's as pointless as discussing religion. Also, I am a big defender of "most people in the US aren't like that!". But I am really disappointed with a large percentage of the country who let "owning the libs" or "my groceries cost more than they did years ago" to be more important than common decency. And once again, a fraction of eligible voters (1/3, I think) sat it out for whatever stupid reason. Life goes on, but this is like a punch to the gut.

    You comparing politics to discussing religion is so fitting for me because I absolutely agree, we as people want to find purpose in a crowd, so we make everything so extreme because we think that if we are apart of something we have to represent that thing to its extremes. I avoid it for 2 reasons, 1. it's pointless, as you said, and 2. I don't really represent my word yet as a non voter, so I leave that to the people who need to discuss it with each other rather than hear my opinion as someone who didn't really have to study the candidates. I will say, I barely studied them and I feel like I know more than many voters. People don't really vote for what they want to see, they just stick with "red or blue" because we make everything apart of our personality.


  • I would say old school Soulstrut was on the woke spectrum before the term woke was coined.  But considering that most people were somewhere between college and slightly out of it that's not that surprising.  I'd guess most people carried that political view forward, with the occasional exception like whichever one of us turned into an ultra-conservative political pundit.

    Setting aside the set of people who just didn't vote as happens in every election, the country has clearly spoken.  It wasn't a razor thin margin, and it wasn't a quirk of the electoral college vs. the popular vote.  And it wasn't just limited to the President, either; Republicans swept the country and many areas that are Democratic strongholds shifted to the right a bit.

    Personal opinion, Democrats went too far to the extreme on a number of their policies and alienated swaths of the populace, ran Biden when that was never going to fly, threw in Kamala at the last minute who was a weak candidate and had no time to develop her own brand, and basically made a mess of everything.  Obama was the last strong candidate with a mass appeal that the Democrats have run and don't seem to have anyone on deck to compete against a strong personality like Trump.

    I agree with others considering all of the track record of Trump both inside and outside of office that the majority of Americans were like "this is the guy that's going to fix things" is odd.  I won't say surprising as I expected him to win, honestly, but that so many people felt Trump is the solution to the errors the Biden administration has made is a head scratcher to me.

  • BlastmanBlastman Old soul. Wrong vessel. 18 Posts
    I would say old school Soulstrut was on the woke spectrum before the term woke was coined.  But considering that most people were somewhere between college and slightly out of it that's not that surprising.  I'd guess most people carried that political view forward, with the occasional exception like whichever one of us turned into an ultra-conservative political pundit.

    Setting aside the set of people who just didn't vote as happens in every election, the country has clearly spoken.  It wasn't a razor thin margin, and it wasn't a quirk of the electoral college vs. the popular vote.  And it wasn't just limited to the President, either; Republicans swept the country and many areas that are Democratic strongholds shifted to the right a bit.

    Personal opinion, Democrats went too far to the extreme on a number of their policies and alienated swaths of the populace, ran Biden when that was never going to fly, threw in Kamala at the last minute who was a weak candidate and had no time to develop her own brand, and basically made a mess of everything.  Obama was the last strong candidate with a mass appeal that the Democrats have run and don't seem to have anyone on deck to compete against a strong personality like Trump.

    I agree with others considering all of the track record of Trump both inside and outside of office that the majority of Americans were like "this is the guy that's going to fix things" is odd.  I won't say surprising as I expected him to win, honestly, but that so many people felt Trump is the solution to the errors the Biden administration has made is a head scratcher to me.

    I agree completely, Kamala really seemed like she was new to politics, she mostly just tried to fit in with the people around her, hence why she used accents that weren’t her own when she was at rallies in the south. Trump is somehow charismatic to people, and he’s a very good businessman, I applaud him for that, business men almost always have to make bad choices to get higher up, because it’s super hard to become successful without having some ideologies that some would see as bad. I guess I’m not super disappointed honestly because in the grand scheme of things this will pass, I’ll live. It’s a big deal now but we can persevere, I think Election Day is super crazy because it has a sort of “football team” thing that people love to fight over. 


  • kicks79kicks79 1,338 Posts
    Blastman said:
    Trump is somehow charismatic to people, and he’s a very good businessman

    Good businessman? Please. Before the election, he was going broke, squandered millions from his inheritance, and almost every business he has ever run has gone bust. This is just a fallacy. Being good at business should not apply to democracy, because it's not meant to make a profit. Almost everything wrong with the Western world is because of the neoliberals who tried to make a buck off government services.

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