Any customers here of the closing-down sale of Soul & Funk 45's from Silverfox records?

finelikewinefinelikewine "ONCE UPON A TIME, I HAD A VINYL." http://www.discogs.com/user/permabulker 1,416 Posts
edited December 2015 in Record Collecting
Advertised on facebook with the following offer:

"Here's the deal.....Just moved 60,000 45's into storage. This is my inventory which ive built up over the past 30 years dealing in rare soul 45's. Now i have a full time job i have very litle time to be dealing with this huge accumalition. So i have decided to try and clear as much as I can in Soul Packs. These are not surplus or fillers but hand picked which are listed on my website. Some 21,000 different titles. All have a retail value of between £10 to £30 each.So if you want a piece of them for a limited time I am offering 100 singles for £250 + £10 p&p. Choose from pack A 60's soul pack B 70/80's soul or pack C Funk 45's All are USA originals and all in near mint condition.
....Fill your boots !"

Sounds too good to be true, doesn't it?
I've received my pack today and I'm a bit disappointed to be honest. I contacted the seller and we are about to work something out.
Has anyone here ordered a package as well? Are you happy with the stuff you received?

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  • para11axpara11ax No-style-havin' mf'er 353 Posts
    I've thought about it, but never pulled the trigger for fear of ending up disappointed.

    What kind of stuff did you get? 

  • finelikewinefinelikewine "ONCE UPON A TIME, I HAD A VINYL." http://www.discogs.com/user/permabulker 1,416 Posts
    Unfortunatly there was nothing in the pack which I was looking for for my personal collection. Rather common records or records which arn't exactly in demand.
    Probably some filler stuff, which was sitting in his stock for years. Instead of the described resell value of £10 to £30 each most of them are worth around 5€, according to the going rates on discogs. There were also 7 records missing, out of the promised 100. As they arn't of any use for me I listed them on discogs. I guess most of them won't sell, though. I have little hope to recoup what I paid for.
    I contacted the seller and he seems to be a nice chap and quite forthcoming. He offered me to send the remaining 7 records and If I would still be not happy heoffered me a refund. He told me, that the advertised resell value of the records refer to the prices he charged on his website, which differ quite a bit from discogs market value.
    I just tried to post a list of the record I received. But somehow the new messageboard won't let me, as the list has too many letters. Therfore I'll split up the list in several posts below.

  • finelikewinefinelikewine "ONCE UPON A TIME, I HAD A VINYL." http://www.discogs.com/user/permabulker 1,416 Posts
    Buffalo Smoke    Stubborn Kind Of Fella / Don't Stop The Box    RCA
    Eddie Lovette    Me And You And A Dog Named Boo / I'm The One Who Loves You    Steady Records (2)
    Doris Duke    Congratulations Baby / Divorce Decree    RRG Records
    Geraldine Hunt    You Brought Joy    Roulette
    The Escorts    Make Me Over    Knockout Records (2)
    Lily Fields    He's A Wonder    Spectrum Records (3)
    The Next Movement    You're The One    GEC
    Jimmy Ruffin    Hold On To My Love    RSO
    Steve Bassett with Elliott Randall's New York Band    Beauty Is Only Skin Deep / Private Number    Stillwater
    Magic City (2) Featuring Fire (5)    Let's Rock    Sunshine Sound Disco
    Chairmen Of The Board Featuring General Johnson    On The Beach / Pretty Women Everywhere (Hey Baby)    Surfside Records
    Brainstorm (5)    Lovin' Is Really My Game    Tabu Records
    Billy Preston & Syreeta    With You I'm Born Again    Motown
    Lamont Dozier    Shout About It    M&M Records
    Wardell Piper    Super Sweet    Midsong International Records
    William Bell    Tryin' To Love Two / If Sex Was All We Had    Mercury
    Hodges, James And Smith    Somewhere A Valley / Ain't That Right    People Records (5)
    The Montclairs    Make Up For Lost Time    Paula Records
    Douglas Gibbs    Cloudy Day    Oak Records (2)
    Chuck Roberson    Lolly Pop Man    Nuu-Gunn Records
    J.R. Bailey    Love, Love, Love / Too Far Gone To Turn Around    Toy Records
    Shirley Brown    I've Got To Go On Without You / It Ain't No Fun    Truth Records
    Brother To Brother    In The Bottle    Turbo Records
    Electric City (3) Featuring Johnny Ross (2)    Gemini / We're Gonna Make It    20th Century Records
    ADC Band    You Can Run (You Can Hide)    Uhuru International Records
    Joe Bataan    The Bottle (La Botella)    Salsoul Records
    New Birth    I Can Understand It    RCA Victor
    Hell Storm    Give Me Your Pain    RCA
    Glenn Jones    Bring Back Your Love    RCA
    Dazz Band    Single Girls    RCA
    Gloria Taylor    You Got To Pay The Price    Silver Fox (2)
    Carol Townes And Fifth Avenue    If You Leave Me (I Will Surely Follow You)     Sixth Avenue
    Jean Carn    If You Wanna Go Back / You Are All I Need    Philadelphia International Records
    Alton McClain & Destiny    It Must Be Love    Polydor
    The Independent Movement    I Wanna Try    Polydor
    Karen Diggs    You Take My Love For Granted    NelWin Records
    Calvin Arnold    Satisfy My Woman / You'll Do It    IX Chains Records
    South Shore Commission    We're On The Right Track / I'd Rather Switch Than Fight    Wand
    Odds And Ends (2)    Apples, Peaches, Pumkin Pie    Today Records
    Brenda & The Tabulations    Right On The Tip Of My Tongue / Always & Forever    Top And Bottom Records
    The Chi-Lites    I Want To Pay You Back (For Loving Me) / Love Uprising    Brunswick



  • finelikewinefinelikewine "ONCE UPON A TIME, I HAD A VINYL." http://www.discogs.com/user/permabulker 1,416 Posts
    Saint Tropez    One More Minute    Butterfly Records (7)
    Vernon Burch    When The Summer's Over / Love Is    Chocolate City
    Pockets    Come Go With Me    Columbia
    Dooley Silverspoon    Bump Me Baby    Cotton Records (2)
    Irma Thomas    She'll Never Be Your Wife / You're The Dog    Fungus
    Ann Peebles    If You Got The Time (I've Got The Love)    Hi Records
    Solaris (30)    A Case Of The Boogie / You And Me    Dana Records (2)
    Sonny Charles    Always On My Mind    Highrise Entertainment Co.
    Barbara Carr    Good Woman Go Bad / Messing With My Mind    Bar-Car
    Sandra Feva    Love Came Right On Time    Jerni Records
    The Escorts    Heart Of Gold / Sing A Happy Song    Knockout Records (2)
    Lloyd Price    What Did You Do With My Love / Love Music    LPG Records
    Marvin Gaye    Mercy Mercy Me (The Ecology)    Tamla
    B.T. Express    Close To You / Whatcha Think About That ?    Roadshow
    Al Wilson    Show And Tell    Rocky Road Records
    C.B. Overton    Superstar Lady    Shock Records (2)
    Bettye Lavette    He Made A Woman Out Of Me / Nearer To You    Silver Fox (2)
    Ray Zeiner    I Had A Girl    Poison Ring Records
    Weapons Of Peace    Just Can't Be That Way (Ruth's Song)    Playboy Records
    Bimbo Jet    El Bimbo    Scepter Records
    The Atlanta Disco Band    Bad Luck    Scorpio Records (5)
    Caroline Bernier    Hold Me, Touch Me    Private Stock
    Marion Black    I'm Gonna Get Loaded / You're Not Alone    Prix
    Lou Courtney    What Do You Want Me To Do / Beware    Rags
    Four Tops    I Just Can't Get You Out Of My Mind / Am I My Brother's Keeper    ABC/Dunhill Records
    Gloria Gaynor    Let Me Know (I Have A Right)    Polydor
    The Glass Family    Mr. DJ You Know How To Make Me Dance    JDC Records
    Louis Dyer (2)    I Wanna Make Love To You / Lonely Drifter    Little Star Records
    Bobby Taylor & The Vancouvers    I Am Your Man    Gordy
    Junior Walker & The All Stars    Holly Holy    Soul
    Donnie Vann    Disco Train    To-Keh Records
    The Satisfactions (3)    One Light Two Lights / Turn Back The Tears    Lionel Records (2)
    The Joneses    Pull My String (Turn Me On)    VMP Records
    Milt Grayson And The Mystery Guests    Right On! Right On! Right On! / Good Morning World    Peak Records (3)
    The Moments    Just Because He Wants To Make Love (Doesn't Mean He Loves You)    Stang Records
    The Delfonics / The Crusaders    You'll Get Enough / You Pay For Love    Philly Groove Records
    Archie Bell & The Drells    Nothing Comes Easy    Philadelphia International Records
    The Ebonys    Determination    Philadelphia International Records
    The Moments    Nine Times / When The Morning Comes    Stang Records
    Peggy Scott & Jo Jo Benson    Soulshake / We Were Made For Each Other    SSS International
    Ebb Tide    Give Me Your Best Shot - Baby    Sound Gems
    The Whispers    I'm The One / You Must Be Doing All Right    Soul Clock
    Skip Mahoney & The Casuals    Your Funny Moods    DC International Records, Inc.
    Lynn White    I Didn't Make My Move Too Soon    Darby
    Archie Bell & The Drells    Do The Choo Choo    Atlantic
    Ollie & The Nightingales    You're Leaving Me / Showered With Love    Stax
    Marvin Gaye    Chained / At Last (I Found A Love)    Tamla
    Marvin Gaye    That's The Way Love Is / Gonna Keep On Tryin' Till I Win Your Love    Tamla


  • para11axpara11ax No-style-havin' mf'er 353 Posts
    Yikes :/

    Well, the good news is you can get your money back.

    Good luck!

  • CrabbyCrabby Kanata 23 Posts
    hand-curated chud blast! 

    b/w

    that scammy back-story is the cherry on top. nice guy? motherfucker is a scam artist.

  • finelikewinefinelikewine "ONCE UPON A TIME, I HAD A VINYL." http://www.discogs.com/user/permabulker 1,416 Posts
    He claims to have sold 400 packs so far and I'm the first customer who isn't satisfied with the records...
    I hope some other buyers will chime in in this thread and report avout the stuff they got.

  • para11axpara11ax No-style-havin' mf'er 353 Posts
    Yeah, that "sold 400 packs, no complaints" sounds like complete bullshit.

  • So you don't like the records in the pack, the seller has apologised and offered you a full refund, so you put him on blast?


  • LaserWolfLaserWolf Portland Oregon 11,518 Posts
    Advertised on facebook with the following offer:

    "Here's the deal.....Just moved 60,000 45's into storage. This is my inventory which ive built up over the past 30 years dealing in rare soul 45's. Now i have a full time job i have very litle time to be dealing with this huge accumalition. So i have decided to try and clear as much as I can in Soul Packs. These are not surplus or fillers but hand picked which are listed on my website. Some 21,000 different titles. All have a retail value of between £10 to £30 each.So if you want a piece of them for a limited time I am offering 100 singles for £250 + £10 p&p. Choose from pack A 60's soul pack B 70/80's soul or pack C Funk 45's All are USA originals and all in near mint condition.
    ....Fill your boots !"

    Sounds too good to be true, doesn't it?
    I've received my pack today and I'm a bit disappointed to be honest. I contacted the seller and we are about to work something out.
    Has anyone here ordered a package as well? Are you happy with the stuff you received?
    Strange.
    What you received is exactly what I would have expected from the description.

    Here is how large scale record sellers work; buy lots of records, list lots of records, the hot stuff sells, the cold stuff sits.
    Over the years all kinds of cold stuff eventually sells for 10, but never as fast as it comes in.
    All the stuff you listed are good soul records. Good but cold. Because the hot stuff sold long ago.
    Worth the 2.50 a disc you paid. Assuming they are in NM condition.

    I'll admit that I don't see any 30 records there, but in the 90s I bet he did well selling that kind of stuff.
    Hopefully you bought a soul a pack, not funk pack.

    Anywho, I feel your pain. Instant common hit record collection. Not the hand picked rare soul records that would take 30 years to find you were hoping for.
    Just saying what you got is what I would have expected, which is why I wouldn't have ordered.
    Perhaps 400 packs ago there were good things in there.

  • LaserWolfLaserWolf Portland Oregon 11,518 Posts
    I learned the hard way too.
    I bought a similar blind pack of sealed soul lps years ago. Can't tell you how bad it was. Worse part was I got 100 records, but only 10 different titles.

    Live and learn.

  • holmesholmes 3,532 Posts
    I browsed the inventory first & decided not to purchase based on that.  The 60s stuff seemed a bit better but the 70s & funk stuff was pretty weak.  

  • finelikewinefinelikewine "ONCE UPON A TIME, I HAD A VINYL." http://www.discogs.com/user/permabulker 1,416 Posts
    that list is copy & paste from my discogs listing. Sergeboi, better mind your own buisiness. I'm quite sure you wasted more time trolling  under your fake account on this board than me posting this list.

  • KineticKinetic 3,738 Posts
    Oh look, it's the PUTS troll guy doing the same kinda thing! Ha!

  • kicks79kicks79 1,315 Posts
    sergeboi said:

    Just get your refund already. You have already water too much of your life typing that list up!!!

    Water got no enemy 

  • finelikewinefinelikewine "ONCE UPON A TIME, I HAD A VINYL." http://www.discogs.com/user/permabulker 1,416 Posts
    kicks79 said:
    sergeboi said:

    Just get your refund already. You have already water too much of your life typing that list up!!!

    Water got no enemy 
    Even when palmed off such expensive shit? ;-)

  • Personally, I would never buy a "soul pack", just because I hate the idea of not knowing what I'm getting. There's way too many soul records out there that I have no interest in owning. People who sell soul records, especially from the UK, do this for a living. There's no way I would expect to get any $20-$30 or higher records. I saw this soul pack ad on facebook a couple weeks ago and rolled my eyes after reading it. I'm not surprised to hear some complaints about it. 

    But with that being said, I've bought and traded from Adey Pierce of Silverfox records, the guy who is selling these soul packs. The few times I've dealt with him, I've felt like his grading could have been slightly better, but also from experience, I think that's true with a lot of collectors from the UK. Generally speaking, we tend to grade a little bit better/tighter here in the US. That's really my only gripe with Adey. Otherwise, he's very easy to deal with and a very nice guy. You said he refunded you the money, which I would completely expect from him.

    -Chris



  • finelikewinefinelikewine "ONCE UPON A TIME, I HAD A VINYL." http://www.discogs.com/user/permabulker 1,416 Posts
    CBills428 said:
    Personally, I would never buy a "soul pack", just because I hate the idea of not knowing what I'm getting. There's way too many soul records out there that I have no interest in owning. People who sell soul records, especially from the UK, do this for a living. There's no way I would expect to get any $20-$30 or higher records. I saw this soul pack ad on facebook a couple weeks ago and rolled my eyes after reading it. I'm not surprised to hear some complaints about it. 

    But with that being said, I've bought and traded from Adey Pierce of Silverfox records, the guy who is selling these soul packs. The few times I've dealt with him, I've felt like his grading could have been slightly better, but also from experience, I think that's true with a lot of collectors from the UK. Generally speaking, we tend to grade a little bit better/tighter here in the US. That's really my only gripe with Adey. Otherwise, he's very easy to deal with and a very nice guy. You said he refunded you the money, which I would completely expect from him.

    -Chris


    Hey Chris, thanks for sharing your experiences with dealing with Adey. I wouldn't do such a deal again, that's for sure, I paid my dues. He hasn't refunded my yet, as I'm still waiting for the other seven records, that were missing. Depending on what I'll get I will request a refund or not.
    Adey told me the 20 - 30£ price tag was referring to UK prices, which are allegedly higher than US prices. But to me this sound like bulshit. Nowadays record selling i a global buisiness and prices don't differ much, wherever you buy.


  • i'm assuming that was the 70s soul pack?

    like others said, decent records in there but i wouldn't have wanted to pay 250gbp for the lot....

  • finelikewinefinelikewine "ONCE UPON A TIME, I HAD A VINYL." http://www.discogs.com/user/permabulker 1,416 Posts
    i'm assuming that was the 70s soul pack?

    like others said, decent records in there but i wouldn't have wanted to pay 250gbp for the lot....
    yes, the 70s soul pack. I paid 300 gbp incl. shipping, though.

  • you win some, you lose some! 
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