Mountain Dew "racist" Tyler ad

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  • Hotsauce84Hotsauce84 8,450 Posts
    countmacula said:
    All I'm saying is... it's a commercial. They did a horrible job trying to sell MD. That's it. Its not really a big deal. Nobody's really offended. It's fake outrage.

    I agree with you 100%.

  • LoopDreamsLoopDreams 1,195 Posts
    Kids these days don't drink Mountain Dew, they say it lowers your sperm count...

    So Dew gotta come out swingin', ugh.


  • volumenvolumen 2,532 Posts
    Herm said:

    He so crazy. Pretty much shows how ignorant people are in general. I realize that people are free to say what they want but how you can't realize it's going to piss people off and cost you money is just dumb. If your going to get a corporate sponsorship the corporation is going to drop you the second you give them any bad press.

    Pretty much flyies in the face of all the "bad press is good press" theories.

  • thropethrope 750 Posts
    volumen sounds old

  • yuk foo


  • Fred_GarvinFred_Garvin The land of wind and ghosts 337 Posts
    volumen said:
    Pretty much flyies in the face of all the "bad press is good press" theories.

    Not really. This is not an all-or-nothing issue; it is subject to degrees of gradation. One can't possibly think that a poorly thought out commercial made as a crude joke, is anywhere near as potentially bad a look as the idea of degrading an incident that is remembered as a touchstone of one of the most important political movements in modern history.

    I don't think anyone is saying there's no such thing as bad press... obviously there is. That's not the point; the point is, only when it's bad enough to affect sales of their product (and occasionally it is), will the person writing the checks be motivated to care.

  • volumenvolumen 2,532 Posts
    Fred_Garvin said:
    volumen said:
    Pretty much flyies in the face of all the "bad press is good press" theories.

    Not really. This is not an all-or-nothing issue; it is subject to degrees of gradation. One can't possibly think that a poorly thought out commercial made as a crude joke, is anywhere near as potentially bad a look as the idea of degrading an incident that is remembered as a touchstone of one of the most important political movements in modern history.

    I don't think anyone is saying there's no such thing as bad press... obviously there is. That's not the point; the point is, only when it's bad enough to affect sales of their product (and occasionally it is), will the person writing the checks be motivated to care.

    According to PepsiCo this was never meant to be on TV just the internet, and they still pulled it from their own web site as well as OF website. So it looks like they were motivated to care. Of course if it had been popular then they would have put it on TV the next week.

    I agree that in the what is worse contest Lil Wayne's lyrics win. But those were also thing he put on his own music that had nothing to do with Mountain Dew. The Tyler commercial was commissioned, approved and posted by PespsiCo. So obviously they are different situation. Ultimately it's the corporations fault for trying to attach themselves to people who already have music out that clearly doesn't jive with the companies desire to appear to have "family values".

  • volumenvolumen 2,532 Posts
    thrope said:
    volumen sounds old

    Why because I'm smart and think things through?

    I'm actually not old, and I would have never cared for a lyric like Lil Wayne's regardless of the artist. In fact it sounds like a white power lyric. I like Lil Wayne and own some of his stuff but even I can admit when he's acting like an idiot. It has nothing to do with age and everything to do with independent thinking and not being a slave to trends and commercialism.

  • SoulOnIceSoulOnIce 13,027 Posts
    If it wasn't for the design of the cans and bottles, I would have easily believed that 1984 MD commercial was brand new.

  • HorseleechHorseleech 3,830 Posts
    volumen said:
    thrope said:
    volumen sounds old

    Why because I'm smart?


  • Jonny_PaycheckJonny_Paycheck 17,825 Posts
    Wayne is not remotely the first rapper to use Emmett Till in a lyric that way

  • Fred_GarvinFred_Garvin The land of wind and ghosts 337 Posts
    Jonny_Paycheck said:
    Wayne is not remotely the first rapper to use Emmett Till in a lyric that way
    Not at all, but he may be the first one who did it while being the spokesperson for a major product.
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