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  • DocMcCoyDocMcCoy "Go and laugh in your own country!" 5,913 Posts
    Stray observations;

    $100,000 for 20 minutes. :face_melt:

    "...rhythms that originated in the brain of the Swedish House Mafia cofounder Sebastian Ingrosso." Actual LOL.

    They don't say it in so many words, but it's clear from the piece that many of the big players recognise Vegas is bullshit and are just riding it until the wheels fall off. And if people are going to throw that kind of money at them, then I can't really blame them for cashing in. Downside is, you're working in an environment where someone like Mark Farina can get thown off the decks at a house music event. Play at your own risk.

    Although I'm not exactly well-informed when it comes to my own LTE*, let alone anyone else's, it does rather strike me that there's a certain kind of DJ on the circuit right now who will not be able to get arrested when the bubble finally bursts.

    When the bubble does finally burst, it'll partly be because of dudes like Max Vangeli and AN21. I doubt also that there'll be a Comiskey Park moment - the money will just quietly move somewhere else.

    * LTE = Local Tiesto Experience

    EDIT: I'm also put in mind of the Tony Wilson quote about how America has always created genres, given them to the Brits (or Euroman generally, in this case) to tinker with, and then bought back the results at an extortionate price. In many ways this is another example of that, on a massive scale.
  • billbradleybillbradley You want BBQ sauce? Get the fuck out of my house. 2,889 Posts
    #30: Afrojack Net Worth ??? $2 million

    #29: Markus Schulz Net Worth ??? $2 million

    #28: Darude Net Worth ??? $2.5 million

    #27: Kaskade Net Worth ??? $3 million

    #26: Martin Solveig Net Worth ??? $3 million

    #25: Eric Prydz Net Worth ??? $4 million

    #24: Swedish House Mafia Net Worth ??? $4 million each

    #23: Gareth Emery Net Worth ??? $5 million

    #22: Avicii Net Worth ??? $6 million

    #21: Skrillex Net Worth ??? $8 million

    #20: ATB aka Andre Tanneberger ??? $8 million

    #19: Calvin Harris Net Worth ??? $10 million

    #18: Deadmau5 Net Worth ??? $12 million

    #17: Benny Benassi Net Worth ??? $14 million

    #16: Carl Cox Net Worth ??? $15 million

    #15: The Chemical Brothers Net Worth ??? $15 million

    #14: Ferry Corsten Net Worth ??? $18 million

    #13: Steve Aoki Net Worth ??? $20 million

    #12: Fatboy Slim Net Worth ??? $22 million

    #11: David Guetta Net Worth ??? $25 million

    #10: Moby Net Worth $28 million

    #9: Daft Punk Net Worth ??? $30 million each

    #8: Pete Tong Net Worth ??? $30 million

    #7: Judge Jules Net Worth ??? $40 million

    #6: Sasha (DJ) Net Worth ??? $40 million

    #5: Armin Van Buuren Net Worth ??? $40 million

    #4: John Digweed Net Worth ??? $45 million

    #3: Paul van Dyk Net Worth ??? $50 million

    #2: Paul Oakenfold Net Worth ??? $55 million

    #1: DJ Tiesto Net Worth ??? $65 million
  • Danno3000Danno3000 2,850 Posts
    billbradley said:
    #30: Afrojack Net Worth ??? $2 million

    #29: Markus Schulz Net Worth ??? $2 million

    #28: Darude Net Worth ??? $2.5 million

    #27: Kaskade Net Worth ??? $3 million

    #26: Martin Solveig Net Worth ??? $3 million

    #25: Eric Prydz Net Worth ??? $4 million

    #24: Swedish House Mafia Net Worth ??? $4 million each

    #23: Gareth Emery Net Worth ??? $5 million

    #22: Avicii Net Worth ??? $6 million

    #21: Skrillex Net Worth ??? $8 million

    #20: ATB aka Andre Tanneberger ??? $8 million

    #19: Calvin Harris Net Worth ??? $10 million

    #18: Deadmau5 Net Worth ??? $12 million

    #17: Benny Benassi Net Worth ??? $14 million

    #16: Carl Cox Net Worth ??? $15 million

    #15: The Chemical Brothers Net Worth ??? $15 million

    #14: Ferry Corsten Net Worth ??? $18 million

    #13: Steve Aoki Net Worth ??? $20 million

    #12: Fatboy Slim Net Worth ??? $22 million

    #11: David Guetta Net Worth ??? $25 million

    #10: Moby Net Worth $28 million

    #9: Daft Punk Net Worth ??? $30 million each

    #8: Pete Tong Net Worth ??? $30 million

    #7: Judge Jules Net Worth ??? $40 million

    #6: Sasha (DJ) Net Worth ??? $40 million

    #5: Armin Van Buuren Net Worth ??? $40 million

    #4: John Digweed Net Worth ??? $45 million

    #3: Paul van Dyk Net Worth ??? $50 million

    #2: Paul Oakenfold Net Worth ??? $55 million

    #1: DJ Tiesto Net Worth ??? $65 million

    Sceptical of this. When Judge Jules left BBC, he became a solicitor No one with a net worth of $40 million decides to become a solicitor. The idea is basically absurd.
  • DocMcCoyDocMcCoy "Go and laugh in your own country!" 5,913 Posts
    Danno3000 said:


    Sceptical of this. When Judge Jules left BBC, he became a solicitor No one with a net worth of $40 million decides to become a solicitor. The idea is basically absurd.

    Judge Jules was a qualified solicitor back when he was running warehouse parties in the mid-80s, hence the nickname "Judge". He's probably just decided to put that law degree to good use.

    EDIT: Still a working DJ, with the lawyering being more of a side hustle. Not remotely surprised to see that he's chosen to work for a firm that specialises in entertainment law.
  • FlomotionFlomotion 2,390 Posts
    DocMcCoy said:
    Danno3000 said:


    Sceptical of this. When Judge Jules left BBC, he became a solicitor No one with a net worth of $40 million decides to become a solicitor. The idea is basically absurd.

    Judge Jules was a qualified solicitor back when he was running warehouse parties in the mid-80s, hence the nickname "Judge". He's probably just decided to put that law degree to good use.

    EDIT: Still a working DJ, with the lawyering being more of a side hustle. Not remotely surprised to see that he's chosen to work for a firm that specialises in entertainment law.

    Think he only has a law degree so still needs to do articles with a firm before he can qualify as a lawyer, normally two years. Then he'll be out of there.
  • DocMcCoyDocMcCoy "Go and laugh in your own country!" 5,913 Posts
    Flomotion said:
    DocMcCoy said:
    Danno3000 said:


    Sceptical of this. When Judge Jules left BBC, he became a solicitor No one with a net worth of $40 million decides to become a solicitor. The idea is basically absurd.

    Judge Jules was a qualified solicitor back when he was running warehouse parties in the mid-80s, hence the nickname "Judge". He's probably just decided to put that law degree to good use.

    EDIT: Still a working DJ, with the lawyering being more of a side hustle. Not remotely surprised to see that he's chosen to work for a firm that specialises in entertainment law.

    Think he only has a law degree so still needs to do articles with a firm before he can qualify as a lawyer, normally two years. Then he'll be out of there.

    I stand corrected.
  • mickalphabetmickalphabet deep inna majestic segue 374 Posts
    Simon Reynolds did a slightly more in depth article on the phenomenon over on the Guardian recently

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/aug/02/how-rave-music-conquered-america
  • billbradleybillbradley You want BBQ sauce? Get the fuck out of my house. 2,889 Posts
    I have no idea how they came up with those numbers but here is where it was from.

    http://www.celebritynetworth.com/articles/entertainment-articles/30-richest-djs-world/
  • finelikewinefinelikewine "ONCE UPON A TIME, I HAD A VINYL." http://www.discogs.com/user/permabulker 1,416 Posts
    At the moment "EDM" is in its infancy in the US, therefore the most flashy and mainstream music is soaked up by the masses.
    I guess the most of it's appeal comes from its novelty. A lot of the people, who are now embracing "EDM", are not aware of its american roots. They don't know much about Chicago's or Detroit's musical heritage nor about Disco music.
    Dance music has been assosiated with the gay movement and drugs the last thirty years since the demise of Disco. It could never catch on
    until now. Now it has been repackaged and redesigned to appeal to people who are used to the aesthetics of rock and pop music.
    Instead of anonymous producers, they have now limelight hogs, they can idolize and look at big stages. The music they appreciate now has been brought more into the line with pop/rock music they are used to. The popular "EDM" has changed the track structure from building tension through repetition to the structure of verse, chorus, hooklines.
    I guess it will take years until "EDM" will mature to something more sophisticated in the US. I bet that it will go back underground after the big craze has ended and the next big thing is popular. Then the wheat will be sorted from the chaff and only people who are really passionate about it will stick to it. These people will eventually become aficionados who demand more sophisticated music. These will be the people one can build a proper scene on.
  • LamontLamont 1,089 Posts
    DocMcCoy said:
    Stray observations;
    EDIT: I'm also put in mind of the Tony Wilson quote about how America has always created genres, given them to the Brits (or Euroman generally, in this case) to tinker with, and then bought back the results at an extortionate price. In many ways this is another example of that, on a massive scale.

    Skrillex might be the exception there
  • PunditPundit 438 Posts
    mickalphabet said:
    Simon Reynolds did a slightly more in depth article on the phenomenon over on the Guardian recently

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/aug/02/how-rave-music-conquered-america


    lol at DJ SKRILLEX.
  • DocMcCoyDocMcCoy "Go and laugh in your own country!" 5,913 Posts
    Lamont said:
    DocMcCoy said:
    Stray observations;
    EDIT: I'm also put in mind of the Tony Wilson quote about how America has always created genres, given them to the Brits (or Euroman generally, in this case) to tinker with, and then bought back the results at an extortionate price. In many ways this is another example of that, on a massive scale.

    Skrillex might be the exception there

    Perhaps. But I think the big difference between the new kids and the Brit/Euro acts who were working broadly the same turf during the 90s and beyond - Underworld, Basement Jaxx, the Chemical Brothers, etc. - is the presentation. Musically I'm not hearing anything that sounds new to me, but the fully-integrated son-et-lumiere aspect of a Skrillex or deadmau5 show has certainly raised the bar in terms of the overall experience. Although you could also argue that all they're doing there is attempting to trump Daft Punk's "pyramid" show (which will bring us back to do, re, mi, fa...).
  • JimsterJimster Cruffiton.etsy.com 6,889 Posts
    I guess it's the chicken and egg scenario of the money not being there to put on the mega-DJ shows that are doing the rounds these days. Now it's "Product", it's subject to all kinds of marketing I would imagine. House used to have an underground/DIY element to it, even the camper nights, which seems at odds to me with the Music for the Masses label. When I were a lad underground raves and the like were everything anti-establishment.

    But If indeed the Son et lumi??res are up to scratch, does it matter if the music is smoke and mirrors? I'd also add hat the Ibiza super-clubs are partly responsible for the incubation of such "Experiences". :shudder: I agree completely with the Emperor's New Clothes vibe around DJs but can't hate the players. In general, as we've said before, they've served their time doing mobile discos et al.
  • granjerogranjero 147 Posts
    J i m s t e r said:
    Ibiza super-clubs are partly responsible for the incubation of such "Experiences". :shudder:
    This seems true. And Davide Guetta is probably more responsible than most for the illegal laboratory meddling with R'n B and trance/ house genes.
    The Tiesto aesthetic, on the other hand, I believe comes from another place entirely. The only thing I have to back up this assertion is being stuck on a W3 on its way to Ally Pally a few years ago which was packed with teenagers and young adults on their way to his gig there. It was a demographic I was entirely unfamiliar with, and I don't *think* they were Ibiza crew (neither San Antonio nor Pascha). Eboulliant young energy-drink-and-ketamine cyber raver types (though not at all as flamboyant). Curious. Into the 'drop' dynamic no doubt (and less concerned with the fact the music was ultra-conservative diatonic advert music-with-a-beat than getting f*cked (up)). Fair enough, I thought.
    Thanks.
  • JimsterJimster Cruffiton.etsy.com 6,889 Posts
    Yeah, the Tiesto thing has always appeared to be to be the acceptable face of the hard house stuff coming from Euroman (Germany and Clog). I guess Tiesto himself has, finding himself under a spotlight, made a concerted effort to become a "Personality". Fair enough for him. And as you say, getting f*cked-up on something is the #1 priority for the young these days, as I suspect it has always been. The environment is secondary. As long as there's enough f*cked-up people around you to re-enforce the idea that getting f*cked-up is a good idea.

    I find the music utterly soul-less though. Even though I am not the target audience, there was some very hard stuff around when I was younger and that, apart from the comedy factor (headwound techno, anyone?), hurt to listen to. There is plenty of good dance music about, but the mainstream, like any other artform, lacks any sophistication other than a business model.
  • soupsoup 69 Posts
    DocMcCoy said:
    Although I'm not exactly well-informed when it comes to my own Local Tiesto Experience

    neither am I but...

    http://www.gq.com/news-politics/mens-lives/201209/marquee-las-vegas-nightlife-gq-september-2012?printable=true
  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
    To me, what's interesting here is the business side, where these new Vegas clubs are playing this game of one-upmanship that, I think we can all guess, is likely to implode at some point though I don't expect that any of the DJs in discussion here are going to be left impoverished afterwards (unless they're as bad at managing their money as many other celebs in sports, movies, music, etc.).
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