CTI Records
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Does anyone know where I can get more information about the history of CTI Records? I already checked out the Wiki for it and various websites but it seems kind of vague to me, like something is missing.
What years do you guys consider their "golden era" for releasing music?
Thanks
What years do you guys consider their "golden era" for releasing music?
Thanks
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The Bob James 1-3 years
I lose out on every Flow in a set sale. somebody rescue me and take my money
Me, personally, not into the A&M/CTI releases??? more a fan of Bob james 1 - 4, Moon Germs, etc.. era ('72 to '77)?
reason I thought Milton Nascimento was a turd for years.
Richard Barbary - wished it sounded as cool as it looked
you seem like a nice fellow who doesn't deserve the inevitable clonning that is about to come your way.
there is a certain consensus that cti/kudu is vapid, tepid, common, overprodcued, elevator/smooth jazz that only appeals to beggining diggers and that when you get to a certain stage in collecting you are supposed to be embarrassed you ever liked any of those discs.
i kind of get that mindset but then again how can anybody front on:
freddie hubbard- red clay/ straight life/sky dive
idris muhhamad- the power of soul
antonio carlos jobim- stone flower
and a bunch of others
Even the design on these is weak compared to the full-cover photo CTIs
Milt Jackson "Sunflower" and "Olinga" (great vibraphonist shit)
Antonio Carlos Jobim "Stone Flower" (excellent bossa jazz)
SoulStrut is dying!
Seriously, i think George Benson - Beyond Blue Horizon is a good record.
I actually like "Anyone But You" off that album. There's a few samplable moments on there too.
I think TheKindCromang and Crabmongerfunk nailed it. I have no problem riding for CTI/KUDU since that was how I got my start into all this (Power of Soul related). I even bought the first PUTS 12" at Beat Non Stop off the strength of them flipping the label.
I wouldn't mind getting the full story behind Creed and what went on in some of those sessions. How in-depth is that Wax Po article?
I felt like it was pretty in-depth. They talk about how Creed Taylor made tons of money off of Deodato's 2001 and then basically proceeded to blow it all on fancy cars and poor choices at the cost of session player's paychecks. They also describe the extreme meticulousness of Van Gelder's engineering. Some funny stories in there. A bunch of the big names swore they would never do anything to benefit Creed Taylor after the way he ripped them off
That sounds like it's worth checking. Someone needs to make a book of the cover art.
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wow. who has that, is it done well?
By all means.
For real tho, fuck all this "yeah, I USED to like that but I'm too cool for it now" mess. I always hated that insecure shit and it used to permeate this place. I come from this so I'm gonna speak on it.
Think of how many great rap songs wouldn't exist without this catalog.
it's not about being cool or insecure. it's about how your taste (theoretically) evolves and changes and about how you probably don't have enough time to listen to that stuff anymore since you're into free jazz, contemporary rap, dubstep, polka or whatever.
No disrespect, but watching this place for almost a decade and seeing people shit on their past likes (be it stuff like this, backpack rap, whatever), it's more about not wanting to be a lame for what they used to be into than changing tastes. I myself don't exactly pump CTI these days, but it holds an important part of my history in getting into records. I don't see a problem talking about it or coming off as a "lil dude". Let em clon.
i completely agree on that, and there's probably tons of people who look down on it for the reasons you posted above...
So far I have Paul Desmond's Summertime, Stanley Turrentine's Don't Mess With Mr.T, and Johnny Hammond's The Prophet.
where are you from? if you come to the states or canada for a dig you can usually find them cheap.
if faux rillz were still here he would apoplectic.
edit: i mean snarky and full of self-loathing.
Yeah, if we were gonna do a "definitive" list, none of those would be on it.
Bob James 1-3
Power of Soul
Mr. Magic/Feels So Good
Upon This Rock/Moon Germs
Sunflower/Olinga
Red Clay
Stone Flower
Prelude/Deodato 2
Cherry
Gambler's Life
etc. That's not even getting into the A&M stuff.
I say let em enjoy their boners in peace.
Recently I passed on Bob James One for $2 because it has been so long since I sold any.