so is a dude racist because a bunch of white soulstrut dudes say he is vs a crowd of black people riding for dude
Neither, dude is a racist because he says things like this:
???Given the inefficiencies of what DC laughingly calls the criminal justice system, I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal. These aren???t my figures, that is the assumption you can gather from??? the report.???
???Contrary to the claims of the supporters of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the sponsors of H.Res. 676, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 did not improve race relations or enhance freedom. Instead, the forced integration dictated by the Civil Rights Act of 1964 increased racial tensions while diminishing individual liberty.???
???The Criminals who terrorize our cities ??? in riots and on every non-riot day ??? are not exclusively young black males, but they largely are.???
???I wouldn???t vote against getting rid of the Jim Crow laws.???
???Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty and the end of welfare and affirmative action.???
We already have a racist for president. It's just not the race you care about.
W O W
I actually do not think Paul is a racist. I think he has terrible ideas that in application would have disastrous consequences for many groups of people. He also has a couple of good ideas. Unfortunately they don't supercede his bad ones.
These newsletters call not into question so much his beliefs, but his character and his abilities.
Anyone who is happy to gain the support of white supremacists is not someone I could ever vote for. Anyone who is eager to gain the support of antisemites is not someone who I could ever vote for. I am not a crusader for "states rights". I believe in the CRA. I am not a fan of CA Prop 13. I hope that makes my stance clear. It's ok to disagree with me, as I surely disagree with you.
There are to my knowledge two white Americans involved in the Taliban or Al Qaeda, one was disappeared and tortured (under Bush II) and the other is as far as I know still on the most wanted list, and I have no doubt that Obama will capture or kill him at his first opportunity.
Anyone who is happy to gain the support of white supremacists is not someone I could ever vote for. Anyone who is eager to gain the support of antisemites is not someone who I could ever vote for. I am not a crusader for "states rights". I believe in the CRA. I am not a fan of CA Prop 13. I hope that makes my stance clear. It's ok to disagree with me, as I surely disagree with you.
Yes it's ok to disagree. Like we disagree that the United States government as it stands fuels the most severe form of racism the world faces at the moment, using Israel as a can of kerosene.
Someone who thinks murder is ok as long as you're president is not someone I could ever vote for. Neither is someone who thinks it's ok to catalog and store every phone conversation and email sent in the world.
We already have a racist for president. It's just not the race you care about.
W O W
You think Obama would have gotten away with killing alwaki's son if he were white?
You mean the "innocent" 16 year old kid who said he hoped "to attain martyrdom as my father attained it" and just happened to be hanging out with Ibrahim al-Banna, a senior figure in al-Qaeda when they were both killed?
You mean the "innocent" 16 year old kid who said he hoped "to attain martyrdom as my father attained it" and just happened to be hanging out with Ibrahim al-Banna, a senior figure in al-Qaeda when they were both killed?
Yes. Exactly.
Guilt before innocence. Keep preaching those great american values. Now claim this 16 year old was at war with us.
Anyone who is happy to gain the support of white supremacists is not someone I could ever vote for. Anyone who is eager to gain the support of antisemites is not someone who I could ever vote for. I am not a crusader for "states rights". I believe in the CRA. I am not a fan of CA Prop 13. I hope that makes my stance clear. It's ok to disagree with me, as I surely disagree with you.
Yes it's ok to disagree. Like we disagree that the United States government as it stands fuels the most severe form of racism the world faces at the moment, using Israel as a can of kerosene.
Someone who thinks murder is ok as long as you're president is not someone I could ever vote for. Neither is someone who thinks it's ok to catalog and store every phone conversation and email sent in the world.
Jonny_Paycheck said:
Both Presidents will have "gotten away with it".
I said his son dude. Collateral brown damage.
I don't like our Israel policy, though I suspect we disagree on what it *should* be.
I don't support extrajudicial killings of American citizens.
I will vote for Obama because it is crucial, to my mind, that the current crop of Republicans be stopped.
But this is all a diversion from the point of the post, which is about Paul's odious affiliations and his inability to explain them.
But this is all a diversion from the point of the post, which is about Paul's odious affiliations and his inability to explain them.
The point of this post is a diversion itself. Our president murders the son and poster of something he didn't like on youtube. With sky robots on foreign soil. Not a peep from soulstrut.
Lew Rockwell writes some typical shit in the early 90s and soulstrut is all up in arms.
Lew Rockwell writes some typical shit in the early 90s and soulstrut is all up in arms.
I don't know who Lew Rockwell is. I don't know why you and Paul wont own what was published under his name.
Let's assume, that Lew Rockwell wrote these things and Paul never read them, and didn't know about them. (That is Paul's latest position, is it yours?)
How did they get into Paul's publication? Was he hired by Paul?
If yes, why would Paul hire someone whose "typical shit" is racists? Why? Why? Why?
Why would you support someone who hires Lew Rockwell?
Lew Rockwell writes some typical shit in the early 90s and soulstrut is all up in arms.
I don't know who Lew Rockwell is. I don't know why you and Paul wont own what was published under his name.
Let's assume, that Lew Rockwell wrote these things and Paul never read them, and didn't know about them. (That is Paul's latest position, is it yours?)
How did they get into Paul's publication? Was he hired by Paul?
If yes, why would Paul hire someone whose "typical shit" is racists? Why? Why? Why?
Why would you support someone who hires Lew Rockwell?
Many people on the left were able and willing to support a guy who was a top recruiter for the KKK.
You mean the "innocent" 16 year old kid who said he hoped "to attain martyrdom as my father attained it" and just happened to be hanging out with Ibrahim al-Banna, a senior figure in al-Qaeda when they were both killed?
Yes. Exactly.
Guilt before innocence. Keep preaching those great american values. Now claim this 16 year old was at war with us.
I'm pretty sure if you had asked the kid if he was at war with the U.S.he'd have said yes.....but that's besides the point....Al Qaeda just needs to make sure they are always accompanied by an "innocent" 16 year old and they will never have to fear being attacked.
I'm going to assume you are also against the killing of the kid's father and al-Banna..
I don't know who Lew Rockwell is. I don't know why you and Paul wont own what was published under his name.
Let's assume, that Lew Rockwell wrote these things and Paul never read them, and didn't know about them. (That is Paul's latest position, is it yours?)
I don't know what more I can do to "own" them. Paul released them Rockwell most likely wrote them. They were bad.
LaserWolf said:
How did they get into Paul's publication? Was he hired by Paul?
If yes, why would Paul hire someone whose "typical shit" is racists? Why? Why? Why?
Why would you support someone who hires Lew Rockwell?
Lew is kind of a staple of a certain strain of Libertarians. He brings a huge following with him. I personally would not hire him. I see him more as an agitator than I do racist, he pushes peoples buttons to make his points. The reynaldo of libertarians if you will.
Paul likely hired him for the same reasons Barack hired Timothy Geithner, status quo acceptance. Geithner is a far more despicable human. Both will/have backfired.
Lew Rockwell writes some typical shit in the early 90s and soulstrut is all up in arms.
I don't know who Lew Rockwell is. I don't know why you and Paul wont own what was published under his name.
Let's assume, that Lew Rockwell wrote these things and Paul never read them, and didn't know about them. (That is Paul's latest position, is it yours?)
How did they get into Paul's publication? Was he hired by Paul?
If yes, why would Paul hire someone whose "typical shit" is racists? Why? Why? Why?
Why would you support someone who hires Lew Rockwell?
Many people on the left were able and willing to support a guy who was a top recruiter for the KKK.
Not sure why hiring Lew Rockwell is any worse.
Rockwell has been a Paul advisor for decades and continues to be afaik.
In 2008 Paul gave a keynote address to the John Birch Society at their 50th anniversary celebration.
Lew Rockwell writes some typical shit in the early 90s and soulstrut is all up in arms.
I don't know who Lew Rockwell is. I don't know why you and Paul wont own what was published under his name.
Let's assume, that Lew Rockwell wrote these things and Paul never read them, and didn't know about them. (That is Paul's latest position, is it yours?)
How did they get into Paul's publication? Was he hired by Paul?
If yes, why would Paul hire someone whose "typical shit" is racists? Why? Why? Why?
Why would you support someone who hires Lew Rockwell?
Many people on the left were able and willing to support a guy who was a top recruiter for the KKK.
Not sure why hiring Lew Rockwell is any worse.
What would right-wingers point to if Robert Byrd had turned Republican like most of the Dixiecrats?
And I don't know anyone on "the left" that supported Byrd for President. Neither do you, so what flawed analogy are you pushing today?
As part of the "personal responsibility" gang, don't you think Ron Paul should take responsibility for printing dozens of instances of racist and anti-gay filth over the years in newsletters that put a lot of money in his pockets? He's a notch above a child pornography publisher. What a credential.
No doubt that forgiveness comes easiest when the offender is wearing your "colors".
I've made my opinion of Ron Paul pretty known on these pages....and whether or not he's a racist is very far down the list of reasons I wouldn't/don't support him.
I know where all the tin foil hat nonsense comes from and all the scared of minorities shit comes from (old and white related) but where on earth does one get the idea that eliminating the minimum wage will help the working class? Please to explain.
I don't necessarily agree with it completely but eliminating minimum wage allows teenagers and others in dire need of work experience to more easily obtain employment since employers would be more willing to hire at lower wages. More work experience at a younger age = more able to seek gainful employment in the future.
I don't necessarily agree with it completely but eliminating minimum wage allows teenagers and others in dire need of work experience to more easily obtain employment since employers would be more willing to hire at lower wages. More work experience at a younger age = more able to seek gainful employment in the future.
No, what it would it do is allow businesses to pay adults a wage that they can't possibly live on. Why would a business hire a kid, when they can hire an adult for the same low wage? Altruism? Sure. Not sure why you think it would be a benefit to teens. What are you basing this on?
More work experience at low wage jobs = greater likelihood that upward mobliity is unobtainable due to inability to pay for things like: rent, food, amenites, school, transportation, etc.
I know where all the tin foil hat nonsense comes from and all the scared of minorities shit comes from (old and white related) but where on earth does one get the idea that eliminating the minimum wage will help the working class? Please to explain.
I would guess that the (poor) argument is that business could hire more people if they had ot pay them less. This, of course, has been disproven in the last 3-4 years by the fact that businesses are raking in record profits and yet unemployment is still above 8%. It's more supply side BS. Ron Paul is a regular Ayn Rand cornholer.
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Jonny_Paycheck said:
I will vote for Obama because it is crucial, to my mind, that the current crop of Republicans be stopped.
Sorry, Jonny, but that's about as smallminded as it gets, especially when Ron Paul isn't really even a Republican. Hopefully, once he starts running as an independent, you and many others who think like you will reassess.
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Obama practically thanking his buddy bankers for illegally extracting an enormous chunk of the wealth out of this country and doing nothing whatsoever to curb the recession/depression is really doing the poor well.
In fact, their ranks are multiplying by the day. Awesome, we should all vote for that.
It's bad enough that y'all can't see the light on Paul. But y'all are seriously still standing by Obama?????
Weaksauce to the fullest.
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Neither, dude is a racist because he says things like this:
W O W
You think Obama would have gotten away with killing alwaki's son if he were white?
Haha! That's your smoking gun that Obama is racist? Your speculation that if Alwaliki was white, Obama wouldn't "have gotten away with it"?
Right. I'm following sakedelic's lead on this one. Peace out.
W O W
I actually do not think Paul is a racist. I think he has terrible ideas that in application would have disastrous consequences for many groups of people. He also has a couple of good ideas. Unfortunately they don't supercede his bad ones.
These newsletters call not into question so much his beliefs, but his character and his abilities.
Anyone who is happy to gain the support of white supremacists is not someone I could ever vote for. Anyone who is eager to gain the support of antisemites is not someone who I could ever vote for. I am not a crusader for "states rights". I believe in the CRA. I am not a fan of CA Prop 13. I hope that makes my stance clear. It's ok to disagree with me, as I surely disagree with you.
Yes it's ok to disagree. Like we disagree that the United States government as it stands fuels the most severe form of racism the world faces at the moment, using Israel as a can of kerosene.
Someone who thinks murder is ok as long as you're president is not someone I could ever vote for. Neither is someone who thinks it's ok to catalog and store every phone conversation and email sent in the world.
I said his son dude. Collateral brown damage.
You mean the "innocent" 16 year old kid who said he hoped "to attain martyrdom as my father attained it" and just happened to be hanging out with Ibrahim al-Banna, a senior figure in al-Qaeda when they were both killed?
Yes. Exactly.
Guilt before innocence. Keep preaching those great american values. Now claim this 16 year old was at war with us.
I don't like our Israel policy, though I suspect we disagree on what it *should* be.
I don't support extrajudicial killings of American citizens.
I will vote for Obama because it is crucial, to my mind, that the current crop of Republicans be stopped.
But this is all a diversion from the point of the post, which is about Paul's odious affiliations and his inability to explain them.
The point of this post is a diversion itself. Our president murders the son and poster of something he didn't like on youtube. With sky robots on foreign soil. Not a peep from soulstrut.
Lew Rockwell writes some typical shit in the early 90s and soulstrut is all up in arms.
I don't know who Lew Rockwell is. I don't know why you and Paul wont own what was published under his name.
Let's assume, that Lew Rockwell wrote these things and Paul never read them, and didn't know about them. (That is Paul's latest position, is it yours?)
How did they get into Paul's publication? Was he hired by Paul?
If yes, why would Paul hire someone whose "typical shit" is racists? Why? Why? Why?
Why would you support someone who hires Lew Rockwell?
Many people on the left were able and willing to support a guy who was a top recruiter for the KKK.
Not sure why hiring Lew Rockwell is any worse.
I'm pretty sure if you had asked the kid if he was at war with the U.S.he'd have said yes.....but that's besides the point....Al Qaeda just needs to make sure they are always accompanied by an "innocent" 16 year old and they will never have to fear being attacked.
I'm going to assume you are also against the killing of the kid's father and al-Banna..
I don't know what more I can do to "own" them. Paul released them Rockwell most likely wrote them. They were bad.
Lew is kind of a staple of a certain strain of Libertarians. He brings a huge following with him. I personally would not hire him. I see him more as an agitator than I do racist, he pushes peoples buttons to make his points. The reynaldo of libertarians if you will.
Paul likely hired him for the same reasons Barack hired Timothy Geithner, status quo acceptance. Geithner is a far more despicable human. Both will/have backfired.
Rockwell has been a Paul advisor for decades and continues to be afaik.
In 2008 Paul gave a keynote address to the John Birch Society at their 50th anniversary celebration.
These are our concerns, dude
No doubt that forgiveness comes easiest when the offender is wearing your "colors".
I've made my opinion of Ron Paul pretty known on these pages....and whether or not he's a racist is very far down the list of reasons I wouldn't/don't support him.
My new term for "gambled and lost".
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No, what it would it do is allow businesses to pay adults a wage that they can't possibly live on. Why would a business hire a kid, when they can hire an adult for the same low wage? Altruism? Sure. Not sure why you think it would be a benefit to teens. What are you basing this on?
More work experience at low wage jobs = greater likelihood that upward mobliity is unobtainable due to inability to pay for things like: rent, food, amenites, school, transportation, etc.
I would guess that the (poor) argument is that business could hire more people if they had ot pay them less. This, of course, has been disproven in the last 3-4 years by the fact that businesses are raking in record profits and yet unemployment is still above 8%. It's more supply side BS. Ron Paul is a regular Ayn Rand cornholer.
Jobs are created because of demand. Period.
Sorry, Jonny, but that's about as smallminded as it gets, especially when Ron Paul isn't really even a Republican. Hopefully, once he starts running as an independent, you and many others who think like you will reassess.
In fact, their ranks are multiplying by the day. Awesome, we should all vote for that.
It's bad enough that y'all can't see the light on Paul. But y'all are seriously still standing by Obama?????
Weaksauce to the fullest.