Channel 4 calls out Banksy in Graffiti Wars documentary
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Channel 4 just aired a documentary basically attacking Banksy's integrity and his standing in the graff world.
clips might be taken down soon
clips might be taken down soon
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But like nickolas says Channel4 weren't attacking his integrity. They gave control of their programming of the previous night to Banksy.
I also thought the comment about it being city council policy to leave banksy work and erase other because banksy 'adds value' is a real wtf moment.
I thought it was awesome that he did, its the streets. To deface the canal wall and city property is not wrong?
Its street art not a fifth grade exhibition, banksy just went to the next level by putting his mark. Breaking the rules in
graffiti they said?
I felt genuinely happy for dude when his show went well, even though I don't know him. interesting irony in his finding success as a gallery artist in the end. the zoe kravitz bit was the soulstrut icing on the cake! security dude giving him the once-over @4:09 of the last clip was priceless.
(IMO banksy's painting over the oldest piece in London was bitch, but not half as bitch as his claiming he didn't even realize the importance of the piece he was going over. dude: you had to take a kayak to access the site; if you went through that much trouble I'm pretty sure you knew what you were doing. and yeah, any exposure of the blek ripoff -- which 99 % of banksy fanboys are doubtless totally unaware of -- is a plus).
My comment on biting in the graff world (Banksy/Blek le Rat): biting is a part of graffiti, it's a pretty limited style that has expanded to some degree between, let's say, 1973 and 2011, but not too much really. The influential stylists can be counted on two hands and their styles are going global.
So, in my opinion it makes no sense at all if you have problems with biting in the graff world. And Banksy took it to a level Blek didn't, full stop.
Some of those of Blek stencils are amazing!! Anybody on here that does stencils, knows how tedious and time consuming they are. They may not be grafitti in most peoples eyes, but damn do they look stellar on concrete walls when done right.
All these dudes blow mind in their art, but who goes out of their way to 'change out' just released Paris Hilton CD's for their own explicit taste, and to tag middle east border walls. Not riding, it could be anybody, just saying.
i hope he recovers, and my thoughts go out to his children and his family
"counterculture is against hedge fund managers and bankers - they're the ones who dont buy warhols and picassos anymore, they buy banksys" And yes, this is banksys goal, by design.
talmbout purposefuly commodifying something that doesn want to be commodified.
Also - the blek biting is such a nono. Where is the originality of vision? its just a cynical repackaging to serve your own purposes now, isnt it?
To me, the statements (political etc.) banksy makes in his works are like lite commercial versions of common sentiment - you make an anti paris hilton statement, then design madonnas record cover. Orly?
The 'tagging' of the israeli wall, with all these trite statements about freedom - to me its basically like getting one over at the expense of palestinians and israelis, to pat yourself on the back - because 'banksy is against the wall and for freedom'
Puhlease- what the fuck have you done for either people now, really, that wasnt a self serving pr stunt? In the end, its all about banksy selling to the pitts, isnt it? Or has banksy been giving some of his millions to palestinians, or any of the pc pr causes he endorses? nah son.
Additonally, the bit about him telling Robbo - 'never heard of you', being slapped and running off, then denying this ever happened? c'mon now. going over a classic and cherished piece of london graff history with some ghey ass street art, a bitch move, done out of spite for lack of recognition from 'real' writers.
Seen painted the hollywood sign in 85, when Banksy was still shitting his di.apers. No ulterior motive, except for getting up. Banksy ate his heart out. No cliche political statements needed.
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Lee did his 'stop the bomb' whole car in 78 or 79 - illegally, freehand, on a train, not to sell to galleries. It was a real heartfelt statement coming out of the largely apolitical, undergound graff world. What is banksy adding to or improving on? In my eyes, nothing. He's just reselling a stenciled version of something that already existed to make money and get mainstream recognition. I dont buy it.
bonus better than banksy piece :
ITS NO BIGGIE EVERYDAY YOU EAT SHIT MAY AS WELL CHOOSE YOUR FLAVOR INSTEAD OF SOMEONE ELSE PICKIN IT OUT... 3 MEAN FLAVORS
REAS AOK/RIS whole NYC subway car, mid-80s. Eat that, banksy, warhol and fab5freddy.
and I'll do my own thing.
Wasn't it Mr Brainwash who did the Madonna sleeve?
Yup.
I wonder what happened to dude? Got jumped? Attacked with a bat? Dude looks pretty beastly size-wise. *PASUE*
I trip out on the fact that Banksy hasn't been outed yet. I pretty much lost faith in "the code" at this point, and holmes seems to be working with people who wouldn't follow any kind of street code regardless. He's probably gotta be careful about pissing people off.
well, so the story goes, this is him
and this is him as a kid
but the thing is, people are more interested in the myth than the man.
heres that story if you want to read it. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1034538/Graffiti-artist-Banksy-unmasked---public-schoolboy-middle-class-suburbia.html
Yeah, I've seen that (and believe it), but I meant publicly outed. I figure by now some news outlet would be rushing to be the first.
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Are the hipsters responsible for his continued success? I always assumed he was far more mainstream than that now. He's like the Athena art of the past decade.