for the artists: I'd be embarrassed to do it. it amounts to an admission that they haven't produced anything worth hearing since this one album (usually their first or 2nd) came out. kinda sad IMO.
It's really shocking (to me, anyway) how far this past-their-prime artist does classic album in its entirely thing has come... it sounds mad fucking robotic to me, I've never seen one of these shows and have no desire to (even for an record that I love).
I have seen past-their-prime artists do sets of varied (mostly popular) material and loved it though, so the distinction may be arbitrary.
i just saw Rae like a month ago. he did most of the show playing cuban linx almost in its entirety and some wu classics, doing a lot of other dudes verses, too.
all i can say is i was waiting in line for the bathroom right next to the stage so i was looking at dude directly from the side..... his stamina is pretty impressive/surprising!
It's really shocking (to me, anyway) how far this past-their-prime artist does classic album in its entirely thing has come... it sounds mad fucking robotic to me, I've never seen one of these shows and have no desire to (even for a record that I love).
I have seen past-their-prime artists do sets of varied (mostly popular) material and loved it though, so the distinction may be arbitrary.
My best EXPs are in medium to small venues. Ballrooms, High school gyms and shit.
Has anyone seen a great live show with a large ass outdoor 'woodstock' type crowd?
I saw Soundgarden and Metallica kill it one year at Lollapalooza. Unless you meant hip hop acts. Can't say I've seen that.
I meant Hip Hop
beastie boys.............. MAYBE.
He meant Hip Hop........Boom.....Tish.
That line up makes me feel really old. And depressed.
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rootlesscosmo said:
these "artist X performing X in its entirety"
for the fans: kinda cool.
for the artists: I'd be embarrassed to do it. it amounts to an admission that they haven't produced anything worth hearing since this one album (usually their first or 2nd) came out. kinda sad IMO.
I don't entirely agree with your second point. Acknowledging a widely-accepted creative high-water mark shouldn't automatically constitute an admission that you're artistically barren. I'm sure there are plenty of performers of all stripes who say "Our new stuff is the best we've ever done", and who genuinely mean it. Besides, even if you are over the hill, who can say there's nothing to be gained from revisiting your finest hour now and again?
Obviously, indie/rock acts have been doing this sort of thing for a minute now, and there's at least one fascinating aspect to these "play the whole album" shows, in that, quite often, some of these songs won't ever have been performed live before. In performance terms, hip-hop is a somewhat different discipline, so it'd be interesting to see what kind of approach some of these acts would take to presenting this shit - just rhyming over the original record (not even the instrumentals)? Re-creating it with a full band? Pressing up instrumentals for each track and doing it two-turntables-and-a-microphone style? Those possibilities alone are enough to make it a worthwhile enterprise.
I've seen the whole Liquid Swords thing two years ago at the Forecastle festival here in Louisville. It was a bunch of white
kids cheering for a black dude. There was no black folk to be found in the crowd, they no better. When I saw Wu-Tang
they to played to a bunch of white kids, no black folk to be found in the venue either. Too much screamin' and yellin' on
stage at a Wu concert. It was sweet though hearing the Liquid Swords skits and intros, I could had done away with
the vocals during the live performance if you ask me.
I saw S.O.S Band and The Dazz band two weeks ago for free outside. There I was the minority and with people
who wanted to get down. I'll take that anyday.
I saw the Roots at a massive rave once. It wasn't outdoor but was a huge crowd (thousands). I remember it being banging but I was frying balls so my recollection is a bit scrambled. I recall J-5 rocking a huge crowd at a rave once as well. I don't know that I'd count a rave as a hip hop show but these were hip hop acts rocking arena size spaces.
for the artists: I'd be embarrassed to do it. it amounts to an admission that they haven't produced anything worth hearing since this one album (usually their first or 2nd) came out. kinda sad IMO.
I don't entirely agree with your second point. Acknowledging a widely-accepted creative high-water mark shouldn't automatically constitute an admission that you're artistically barren. I'm sure there are plenty of performers of all stripes who say "Our new stuff is the best we've ever done", and who genuinely mean it. Besides, even if you are over the hill, who can say there's nothing to be gained from revisiting your finest hour now and again?
it was my understanding that Gza basically did a liqud swords "tour" wherein he played the whole album every night at each date. this is not a matter of "revisiting your finest hour now and again."
I saw S.O.S Band and The Dazz band two weeks ago for free outside. There I was the minority and with people
who wanted to get down. I'll take that anyday.
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does maurice white perform with the group anymore?
i dont think so
for the fans: kinda cool.
for the artists: I'd be embarrassed to do it. it amounts to an admission that they haven't produced anything worth hearing since this one album (usually their first or 2nd) came out. kinda sad IMO.
I have seen past-their-prime artists do sets of varied (mostly popular) material and loved it though, so the distinction may be arbitrary.
all i can say is i was waiting in line for the bathroom right next to the stage so i was looking at dude directly from the side..... his stamina is pretty impressive/surprising!
He meant Hip Hop........Boom.....Tish.
That line up makes me feel really old. And depressed.
I don't entirely agree with your second point. Acknowledging a widely-accepted creative high-water mark shouldn't automatically constitute an admission that you're artistically barren. I'm sure there are plenty of performers of all stripes who say "Our new stuff is the best we've ever done", and who genuinely mean it. Besides, even if you are over the hill, who can say there's nothing to be gained from revisiting your finest hour now and again?
Obviously, indie/rock acts have been doing this sort of thing for a minute now, and there's at least one fascinating aspect to these "play the whole album" shows, in that, quite often, some of these songs won't ever have been performed live before. In performance terms, hip-hop is a somewhat different discipline, so it'd be interesting to see what kind of approach some of these acts would take to presenting this shit - just rhyming over the original record (not even the instrumentals)? Re-creating it with a full band? Pressing up instrumentals for each track and doing it two-turntables-and-a-microphone style? Those possibilities alone are enough to make it a worthwhile enterprise.
kids cheering for a black dude. There was no black folk to be found in the crowd, they no better. When I saw Wu-Tang
they to played to a bunch of white kids, no black folk to be found in the venue either. Too much screamin' and yellin' on
stage at a Wu concert. It was sweet though hearing the Liquid Swords skits and intros, I could had done away with
the vocals during the live performance if you ask me.
I saw S.O.S Band and The Dazz band two weeks ago for free outside. There I was the minority and with people
who wanted to get down. I'll take that anyday.
Beastie Boys killed it at Lollapalooza '94.
it was my understanding that Gza basically did a liqud swords "tour" wherein he played the whole album every night at each date. this is not a matter of "revisiting your finest hour now and again."
i figured that show got rained out. :icegrill:
At least when I saw Muddy Waters in his last years he was working with out a set list.