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USED TO BE HERE [NEW YORK RELATED]

grandpa_shiggrandpa_shig 5,799 Posts
edited February 2011 in Strut Central
hey dudes, i need help. so against my better judgement, my partner is out there right now shooting stuff for a project. unfortunately, all the dudes we know from nyc are crusty old dudes that can only point to shit that used to be there. what is left from pre-giuliani nyc? like how far do we need to be from city center to actually see real new york? bronx and queens arent cutting it as far as what we need. is there any dirt left in new york? help me!
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  • DelayDelay 4,530 Posts
    what do you mean? you need old new york looking backdrops for photos? take the j train out past marcy. lots of good elevated train grime.
  • grandpa_shiggrandpa_shig 5,799 Posts
    i was actually looking for an entrance into the old subway systems. i know this is far fetched, but that would be ideal. anything above ground isnt really doing it for us. thanks though, i think my dude got some train footage on his way out to jamaica, q
  • CosmoCosmo 9,768 Posts
    Motherfuck Giuliani now until forever.
  • Big_ChanBig_Chan 5,088 Posts
    East New York in Brooklyn or parts of The South Bronx. Only grimy areas left in NYC.
  • grandpa_shiggrandpa_shig 5,799 Posts
    thanks dudes. yeah, our contacts are in the south bronx but even that is kinda nice. theres some sort of new law out there where the city actually cleans up the projects cuz theyre all super clean.

    no tips on the subway system tho, no? apparently theres an underground art gallery in the system but dudes are being super tight about that info.
  • Hotsauce84Hotsauce84 8,450 Posts
    Poverty porn!
  • DelayDelay 4,530 Posts
    Big_Chan said:
    East New York in Brooklyn or parts of The South Bronx. Only grimy areas left in NYC.
    I wouldnt be so sure about that... there's plenty of grime all over the outer boroughs. especially after all this snow is melting away. Theres trash and potholes everywhere. If by grime, you mean murders...then yes, South BX, East NY, Brownsville, Canarse, Rockaways, ect.

    There are some great old subway entrances in Washington Heights, and up in Harlem
  • grandpa_shiggrandpa_shig 5,799 Posts
    Possum Tom said:

    There are some great old subway entrances in Washington Heights, and up in Harlem

    can you be more specific?

    pm me, im willing to wheel and deal with solid info.
  • CosmoCosmo 9,768 Posts
    Possum Tom said:
    Big_Chan said:
    East New York in Brooklyn or parts of The South Bronx. Only grimy areas left in NYC.
    I wouldnt be so sure about that... there's plenty of grime all over the outer boroughs. especially after all this snow is melting away. Theres trash and potholes everywhere. If by grime, you mean murders...then yes, South BX, East NY, Brownsville, Canarse, Rockaways, ect.

    There are some great old subway entrances in Washington Heights, and up in Harlem

    Yeah there's still plenty of grime, even in LES left.

    Shit, in its own right, Brighton Beach is the final motherfucking frontier.
  • PATXPATX 2,820 Posts
  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    Take the N or W way into Brook-lyn and get off in no man's land. Shit is still dirty.

    Not Needle Park Dirty, but gritty shit.

    Take the 6 train deep into The Bronx.

    Take the F into Queens.

    Shit, take the train to Queensbridge and tell me bout shit.

    The Yuppie shit isnt everywhere.
  • grandpa_shiggrandpa_shig 5,799 Posts
    its cool dudes. thanks. i think im just gonna go out there and sort it out myself.
  • AKallDayAKallDay 830 Posts
    you don't need to go far at all. the j train stop at city hall doesn't just look grimy as hell it looks like 1931 in there, with some current dilapidation crust that is verging on post-apocalyptic looking, old IRT style.
  • grandpa_shiggrandpa_shig 5,799 Posts
    AKallDay said:
    you don't need to go far at all. the j train stop at city hall doesn't just look grimy as hell it looks like 1931 in there, with some current dilapidation crust that is verging on post-apocalyptic looking, old IRT style.

    this sounds specific and awesome. thanks!
  • pimlicosquirrelpimlicosquirrel 772 Posts
    Weird, I was going to start a similar thread, my partner and I are out there soon and my girl wants to shoot some decay / abandoned spots.

    Thanks for the suggestions, more specific spots like the one above would be rad.
  • empanadamnempanadamn 1,462 Posts
    i think if you get on most train lines and take them out of manhattan for 5-10 stops plus, you'll find stuff easily, depending on the line. grit isn't inaccessible here.

    here's some video / links. this info is pretty easy to find on the internet, i just don't know how current it is to now, though. also, links to the underground art gallery you made reference to.

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    - http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/featured/abandoned-stations-new-york-subway/10924
    - http://www.columbia.edu/~brennan/abandoned/
    - http://www.nycsubway.org/abandsta.html
    - http://www.npr.org/2011/01/02/132482428/into-the-tunnels-exploring-the-underside-of-nyc
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    - http://www.undercity.org/

    ps. saw your dude RETNA's opening tonight. shit was super impressiv! i wasn't expecting such a production. lots of bougie / socialite types up in that piece, sprinkled with a couple graff heads. pieces were selling, so that's good!
  • p_gunnp_gunn 2,284 Posts
    AKallDay said:
    you don't need to go far at all. the j train stop at city hall doesn't just look grimy as hell it looks like 1931 in there, with some current dilapidation crust that is verging on post-apocalyptic looking, old IRT style.

    most of the J train stops in manhattan are pretty crummy/crumbly...
  • grandpa_shiggrandpa_shig 5,799 Posts
    empanadamn said:
    i think if you get on most train lines and take them out of manhattan for 5-10 stops plus, you'll find stuff easily, depending on the line. grit isn't inaccessible here.

    here's some video / links. this info is pretty easy to find on the internet, i just don't know how current it is to now, though. also, links to the underground art gallery you made reference to.

    -
    - http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/featured/abandoned-stations-new-york-subway/10924
    - http://www.columbia.edu/~brennan/abandoned/
    - http://www.nycsubway.org/abandsta.html
    - http://www.npr.org/2011/01/02/132482428/into-the-tunnels-exploring-the-underside-of-nyc
    -
    - http://www.undercity.org/

    ps. saw your dude RETNA's opening tonight. shit was super impressiv! i wasn't expecting such a production. lots of bougie / socialite types up in that piece, sprinkled with a couple graff heads. pieces were selling, so that's good!


    holy crapola this is awesome! thank you!!!

    i heard the show was crazy. im so happy for the dude hes worked hard to get there!
  • empanadamnempanadamn 1,462 Posts
    actually, i didn't link the underground graff art gallery thing. here it is:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/01/arts/design/01underbelly.html
  • RAJRAJ tenacious local 7,782 Posts
    Great thraed
  • sabadabadasabadabada 5,966 Posts
    The Bowery J stp is pretty dilapidated too. It looks like it was once pretty happening, probably when the El was still there.

    What about Eighth Avenue? The Holland Bar? Lower east Side south of East Broadway also Chinatown under the Manhattan Bridge. Red Hook is still pretty gritty, maybe more empty than edgy. Boro Park is still like a time machine back to 16th century Poland. Brighton is one of the few remaining ethnic neigborhoods.

    If you stay on the Lex Local 6 train after the final stop at Brooklyn Bridge, you can ride it through the old City Hall loop. The station is pretty well preserved and well lit so you can see it out the window.

    Queens is all cemetaries, nothing changes there.
  • sabadabadasabadabada 5,966 Posts
    This is a cool site of abandoned stations

    http://www.nycsubway.org/abandsta.html

    and historic maps.

    http://www.nycsubway.org/maps/historical.html
  • finelikewinefinelikewine "ONCE UPON A TIME, I HAD A VINYL." http://www.discogs.com/user/permabulker 1,416 Posts
    How about visiting Berlin to see some grime? Some say it*s like NYC in the 80s. But better hurry, they cleaning everything rapidly.
  • Garcia_VegaGarcia_Vega 2,428 Posts
    I like the 1 train platform on the 168th St stop. Subway station from Ghostbusters 2 if I'm not mistaken.

    Shig you should check out the Freedom Tunnel all the way on the west side. There used to be a few entrances along Riverside Ave, but I haven't been in a really long time. I heard a lot of the stuff is buffed, but its still a cool place, be careful.
  • PATXPATX 2,820 Posts
    finelikewine said:
    How about visiting Berlin to see some grime? Some say it*s like NYC in the 80s. But better hurry, the cleaning everything reapidly.

    LOL. 2 completely opposite cities. Some people are saying that there was a certain art scene in Berlin (now mostly moved on) that could have been compared to parts of NYC art scene in the 80s, but the comparison stops there on every other level.

    I'd say just ask the Oz rappers where and what is up in NYC.

    b/w

    Make like Redman and take the A train to the Leff. Most of (non yuppie) Brooklyn is turning into Taco shops and self storage, but it's still grimy. Or you could get on the rooftops next to the Manhattan Bridge. Between the graf and pigeon shit, you got all the grime you need.
  • PATXPATX 2,820 Posts
    Garcia_Vega said:
    I like the 1 train platform on the 168th St stop. Subway station from Ghostbusters 2 if I'm not mistaken.
    On that note, does anyone know for sure where the BT Express cover was shot? It looks like it could be Marcy J.
  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    pimlicosquirrel said:
    wants to shoot some decay / abandoned spots.

    Im gonna be the asshole here.

    I love me some nostalgia and old NYC too, but what the fascination?

    I remember in art school a buddy(small town) of mine ran to NYC, and took photos of Homeless Folks.

    Seriously?

    THAT SHIT IS SO FUCKIN' CLICHE.
  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    sabadabada said:
    This is a cool site of abandoned stations

    http://www.nycsubway.org/abandsta.html

    and historic maps.

    http://www.nycsubway.org/maps/historical.html


    http://www.subwaynut.com/

    this dude does his homework
  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    sabadabada said:
    Red Hook is still pretty gritty, maybe more empty than edgy. .
  • sabadabadasabadabada 5,966 Posts
    batmon said:
    sabadabada said:
    Red Hook is still pretty gritty, maybe more empty than edgy. .

    The Ikea is one spot at the very tip. What about all that crap under the Gawanus at the ened of Smith Street. It's still a dump over there isn't it?
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