Damnit guys, I'm trying to save money now and you're making my wantlist grow! Great thread, I need that Maximum Joy and Lizzy Mercier Descloux for sure.
Don't have much to contribute, though I did recently stumble on Varve "Bamboo Curtain" recently which is pretty nice. Couldn't find anything on youtube though.
I've been doing a post punk night for few a months here. It's a lot of fun. I've been creeping out of the standard parameters of what post-punk supposedly is, not only in terms of artists but, also years 1978-1984. This is mainly because I don't want to get bored with playing Joy Division and Gang or Four all the time. I know that sounds weird, but there's a handful of songs that bring the house down every night.
Where is your night? What's it called? What's the vibe like? Do people dance?
I've dreamed about doing a post punk night for years, but never pulled the trigger because I don't have enough of it to make it interesting week to week. I swear there is enough for me to pull off an interesting night, but I would have to end up playing the same records every week, unless I committed all my time to unearthing new stuff. Unfortunately, I just don't have the time to do that.
BTW this thread is great. There are tons of classic tunes listed here, and a few I've never heard of. I can't wait to get my filthy paws on some of them...
Cats bringing the real RAER ... I used to get good looks out of these:
obviously, "Damaged Goods" Birthday Party, "Zoo Music Girl" D?bile Menthol, "Crash que peut" P?re Ubu, "Street Waves" Romeo Void, "Never Say Never" Crime and the City Solution, "The Sly Persuaders" Brian Eno, "King's Lead Hat" and "Needle in the Camel's Eye" (not postpunk exactly but surely it would wash) Talking Heads, "Crosseyed and Painless" Eardance, "Movers and Shakers" and "Pawn Shop" (cassette-only sheeit from Chicago, but it should be bloggable) The Homosexuals, "Soft South Africans" Magazine, "Definitive Gaze" Mission of Burma, "That's When I Reach for My Revolver" Birdsongs of the Mesozoic, "The True Wheelbase" all the obvious Joy Division some early Adam Ant/Bow Wow Wow joints & of course "Blue" fucking "Monday"
DocMcCoy"Go and laugh in your own country!" 5,917 Posts
Love that Bloods joint you poasted, Pony. I used to have the 45 of that, and I played the shit out of it. Somehow it went missing, so I was delighted to see it turn up on that first (and best) Soul Jazz "New York Noise" comp. Really like that Weatherall remix of Detachments, too. If you like that, you may know this as well;
Ok, just been browsing through this thread and had my eyes well and truly opened on what falls into post-punk. I've basically been craving a lot of this kind of sound recently but am a novice beyond the output of labels like Factory. Any good mixes out there for me to get to grips with?
DocMcCoy"Go and laugh in your own country!" 5,917 Posts
First off, cop the first Soul Jazz "New York Noise" comp with the quickness. Also, if you can find the "Nine O'Clock Drop" compilation that Weatherall did for Nuphonic, that's really good. Both the Virgin "Methods Of Dance" comps have now been collected on one CD, but the original albums used to turn up regularly in second-hand spots. As for mixes, that Trevor Jackson Playgroup Party Mix that Pony used to have on his blog has a grip of classics from that era if you can find it.
Thanks Doc, can only see this thread as a timely sign that I'm ready to embrace the world of guitar again. Going to get on a mission today and start hunting the stuff you mentioned down.
yes neil.. catherine wheel is amazing, only heard it for the first time the other day
i guess you could throw some Devo and Was Not Was into the kind of stuff your playing there and it would work.
DocMcCoy"Go and laugh in your own country!" 5,917 Posts
Yeah, absolutely. Like I said at the top, so much of this stuff was the kind of thing I'd play during my first dabblings in DJing at the very start of the 80s. Me, my brothers and a few of our mates used to hire out local community centres and pub function rooms, get a small PA and one of those old-school mobile disco coffin units and put on parties. I got asked to DJ mainly because I had loads of records, but we all got in on the act. We'd play anything from the kind of post-punk joints in this thread, loads of Ze Records/99 Records shit, early Sugarhill/Enjoy joints, shit like Buffalo Gals, Hip-Hop Be-Bop and Planet Rock, new-wavey electropop stuff (Kraftwerk to Human League and all points between), even James Brown or things like "War Is Coming, War Is Coming". It was a lot of fun.
In 2001 Trevor Jackson did a nice post-punk mix for Ninja Tune's Solid Steel:
PART 3 ? Trevor Jackson ARTIST TITLE LABEL Tuxedomoon Unkown Celluloid Lizzy Mecier Delux Unkown Ze General Strike Unkown Unkown Bill Laswell Work Song Celluloid Flying Lizards Russia Virgin Za Za Blow Up Unkown Ledernachen Amok Unkown Chris And Cosey Unkown Unkown Phil Manzara Big Dome Eg Jah Wobble Unkown Virgin Vortex Ost Black Box Unkown Blurt Spill The Beans Red Flame Mouth Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea Y Section 25 Dirty Disco Factory Pylon Danger Dub Unkown Honey Bane Dub Unkown Unkown Move Unkown Material Secret Life Celluloid Glaxo Babies Unkown Y
As this is old, and never a commercial release, I could up load if anybody wants a copy. It also goes straight into a nice dub set by ColdCut (so an hour in total):
PART 4 - Cold Cut Jacob Miller Keep On Knocking Unkown Augustus Pablo Keep On Dubbing Unkown Jacob Miller Who Say Jah No Dread Unkown Augustus Pablo Stop The Jah Unkown Bong Pat Young Generation Unkown Augustus Pablo New Style Unkown Jacob Miller Each One Teach One Unkown Augustus Pablo Each One Dub Unkown Jacob Miller Each One Teach One Dub Unkown Jacob Miller False Rasta Unkown Augustus Pablo 555 Dub Street Unkown Jacob Miller Hungry Town Skank Unkown Augustus Pablo Brace A Boy Unkown Augustus Pablo Braces Tower Dub Unkown Jacob Miller Baby I Love You So Unkown Augustus Pablo King Tubbies Meets Rockers Uptown
Playing Embryo in the shop this morning which would work (although its really pre-punk) -
That whole "Surfin'" LP is underrated, and I love this tune, but I don't think I'd play it at a party. Too slow and druggy/proggy. If I were to play something from that album, It would be "Music Of Today". Has a lot more spunk to it.
I feel sonned. But this is what I was hoping for. I probably have about 200 records that fit this genre, but after several gigs, I'm already getting stale. The problem is so much of this stuff is harder to find over here. Especially the 12" singles. Seems like most of the people posting the deeper tracks are in (or from) the UK. Last time I was in Germany I found a ton of stuff that was so cheap and clean that I was constantly asking if they were reissues.
a few weirder ones outside of the usual dancefloor cannon...
diagram brothers - we are all animals camberwell now - working nights fellini - rock europa the ex - cells misson of burma - trem two minimal compact - statik dancing ramm - spark the universe (dub) 400 blows - black and white la perversita - et quelque de bonheur social climbers - chicken 80 electric chairs - so many ways grauzone - eisbaer
It wouldn't be so difficult to organize a weekly/monthly show (If you have some money to spent, of course). There are so many possibilities with post-punk; you can throw in some no-wave, minimal-synth, cold wave, focus on certain countries... I'm a sucker for german wave, Neue Deutsche Welle, for instance.
If I remember correctly, there's this post-punk night in Los Angeles called part-time punks organised by Michael Stock, who is also making radio shows for Dublab:
Some dude gave me shit last time for playing Minutemen. Talbout they're punk not post-punk. I played "Political Song for Micheal Jackson to Sing" and they went apeshit. I heard everybody sing along @ PAUSE, "I must look like a dork!"
Crazy talk. Especially the song I posted...sounds almost exactly like a Gang of Four song.
It wouldn't be so difficult to organize a weekly/monthly show (If you have some money to spent, of course). There are so many possibilities with post-punk; you can throw in some no-wave, minimal-synth, cold wave, focus on certain countries... I'm a sucker for german wave, Neue Deutsche Welle, for instance.
yeah, NDW and cold/synth/minimal/dark wave is a whole other bag that is endlessly deep, only works on certain crowds in america though. NDW especially can be totally floor clearing, something about shouting in german makes people uncomfortable. at an open minded night (or if you build the energy right) is can be amazing...a room full of people going apeshit to "co co pino" is a slight to behold. tough to pull off though. pretty good NDW thread here: http://www.waxidermy.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=19839&highlight=ndw
i've DJed post-punk for years and most of what works is really just rockist disco. there's obviousuly a whole style and cache of songs that club kids are now comfortable within the early 80s blur of post punk, new wave, left field disco, proto-techno/house, whatever. "disco-not-disco" is a stupid term but it definitely describes a real sound that a lot of people go for, and it's all been pretty well mapped out. post punk is really just a jump of point for a lot of that.
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I agree, not very danceable, but it's a cool post-punk record that I felt was worth sharing.
Don't have much to contribute, though I did recently stumble on Varve "Bamboo Curtain" recently which is pretty nice. Couldn't find anything on youtube though.
Where is your night? What's it called? What's the vibe like? Do people dance?
I've dreamed about doing a post punk night for years, but never pulled the trigger because I don't have enough of it to make it interesting week to week. I swear there is enough for me to pull off an interesting night, but I would have to end up playing the same records every week, unless I committed all my time to unearthing new stuff. Unfortunately, I just don't have the time to do that.
BTW this thread is great. There are tons of classic tunes listed here, and a few I've never heard of. I can't wait to get my filthy paws on some of them...
obviously, "Damaged Goods"
Birthday Party, "Zoo Music Girl"
D?bile Menthol, "Crash que peut"
P?re Ubu, "Street Waves"
Romeo Void, "Never Say Never"
Crime and the City Solution, "The Sly Persuaders"
Brian Eno, "King's Lead Hat" and "Needle in the Camel's Eye" (not postpunk exactly but surely it would wash)
Talking Heads, "Crosseyed and Painless"
Eardance, "Movers and Shakers" and "Pawn Shop" (cassette-only sheeit from Chicago, but it should be bloggable)
The Homosexuals, "Soft South Africans"
Magazine, "Definitive Gaze"
Mission of Burma, "That's When I Reach for My Revolver"
Birdsongs of the Mesozoic, "The True Wheelbase"
all the obvious Joy Division
some early Adam Ant/Bow Wow Wow joints
& of course "Blue" fucking "Monday"
A couple of obvious one's I would add:
David Byrne "Black Flag" from "The Catherine Wheel" album. I think there are a couple of others from that album that would work as well.
A Certain Ratio "Flight"
i guess you could throw some Devo and Was Not Was into the kind of stuff your playing there and it would work.
PART 3 ? Trevor Jackson
ARTIST TITLE LABEL
Tuxedomoon Unkown Celluloid
Lizzy Mecier Delux Unkown Ze
General Strike Unkown Unkown
Bill Laswell Work Song Celluloid
Flying Lizards Russia Virgin
Za Za Blow Up Unkown
Ledernachen Amok Unkown
Chris And Cosey Unkown Unkown
Phil Manzara Big Dome Eg
Jah Wobble Unkown Virgin
Vortex Ost Black Box Unkown
Blurt Spill The Beans Red Flame
Mouth Voyage To The Bottom Of The Sea Y
Section 25 Dirty Disco Factory
Pylon Danger Dub Unkown
Honey Bane Dub Unkown
Unkown Move Unkown
Material Secret Life Celluloid
Glaxo Babies Unkown Y
As this is old, and never a commercial release, I could up load if anybody wants a copy. It also goes straight into a nice dub set by ColdCut (so an hour in total):
PART 4 - Cold Cut
Jacob Miller Keep On Knocking Unkown
Augustus Pablo Keep On Dubbing Unkown
Jacob Miller Who Say Jah No Dread Unkown
Augustus Pablo Stop The Jah Unkown
Bong Pat Young Generation Unkown
Augustus Pablo New Style Unkown
Jacob Miller Each One Teach One Unkown
Augustus Pablo Each One Dub Unkown
Jacob Miller Each One Teach One Dub Unkown
Jacob Miller False Rasta Unkown
Augustus Pablo 555 Dub Street Unkown
Jacob Miller Hungry Town Skank Unkown
Augustus Pablo Brace A Boy Unkown
Augustus Pablo Braces Tower Dub Unkown
Jacob Miller Baby I Love You So Unkown
Augustus Pablo King Tubbies Meets Rockers Uptown
http://www.discogs.com/Jah-Wobble--Jaki-Liebezeit--Holger-Czukay-How-Much-Are-They-/master/14192
That whole "Surfin'" LP is underrated, and I love this tune, but I don't think I'd play it at a party.
Too slow and druggy/proggy. If I were to play something from that album, It would be "Music Of Today".
Has a lot more spunk to it.
diagram brothers - we are all animals
camberwell now - working nights
fellini - rock europa
the ex - cells
misson of burma - trem two
minimal compact - statik dancing
ramm - spark the universe (dub)
400 blows - black and white
la perversita - et quelque de bonheur
social climbers - chicken 80
electric chairs - so many ways
grauzone - eisbaer
There are so many possibilities with post-punk; you can throw in some no-wave,
minimal-synth, cold wave, focus on certain countries... I'm a sucker for german wave, Neue Deutsche Welle, for instance.
If I remember correctly, there's this post-punk night in Los Angeles called part-time punks organised by Michael Stock, who is also making radio shows for Dublab:
Dublab podcasts
Here are some German Joints:
And then there's so much more...
Crazy talk. Especially the song I posted...sounds almost exactly like a Gang of Four song.
BTW--Got a monthly in Richmond. Always looking for guests.
yeah, NDW and cold/synth/minimal/dark wave is a whole other bag that is endlessly deep, only works on certain crowds in america though. NDW especially can be totally floor clearing, something about shouting in german makes people uncomfortable. at an open minded night (or if you build the energy right) is can be amazing...a room full of people going apeshit to "co co pino" is a slight to behold. tough to pull off though.
pretty good NDW thread here:
http://www.waxidermy.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=19839&highlight=ndw
i've DJed post-punk for years and most of what works is really just rockist disco. there's obviousuly a whole style and cache of songs that club kids are now comfortable within the early 80s blur of post punk, new wave, left field disco, proto-techno/house, whatever. "disco-not-disco" is a stupid term but it definitely describes a real sound that a lot of people go for, and it's all been pretty well mapped out. post punk is really just a jump of point for a lot of that.