you guys watching the markets today?
jlee
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umm....down like 500pts right now. its going crazy...NYT had it down as much as 900 just a few moments ago.here we go again?
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The Dow plunged Thursday amid buzz in the market that European banks have halted lending.
One trader, on the condition of anonymity, said he heard fixed income desks in Europe shut down early because there was no liquidity ? basically European banks are halting lending right now.
"This is similar to what took place pre-Lehman Brothers," the trader said.
The Dow was down more than 900 points at one point, or more than 8 percent, before pulling back to the 600-700 point range.
Under current, New York Stock Exchange rules, if the market falls ten percent or more between 2:30 and 3:00 pm ET, trading is halted for 30 minutes.
Fuckin Greeks...
http://www.cnbc.com/id/36988229
Reading stuff like this doesn't help I suppose.
This
On Yahoo! Finance webpage, the headline size has changed 2 times.
The top headline was about how the market extended its 3rd straight day of losses. Then they made the headline about twice as big and put a breaking news in front of it.
I just checked it again and its like half the browser window.
The market makers really love to swing the hype in their favor don't they
I know some people who made a lot of money today.
haha...just heard the same. someone put in a trade meant to be 17M shares, at 17 BILLION shares.
fat fingers.
SHORTS BE CHEERIN
Somebody's going to have a great story to tell his new homeless friends.
Edit: wrong thread, although i do wonder how Sunderlands choice will affect the global markets...
Skel?
Company I worked for lost about $400m on a fat fingers trade a few years back. Typos happen, but there's at least two levels of safety net before it hits market: first, anything outside a percentage range in price or nominal should require a confirming keystroke within the firm before committal to an exchange; and second, the exchange should have software that does the same.
The first relies on traders actually pausing to think before committing an order, and today your broker performance is rated in how many milliseconds it takes to fill an order. Also most warnings are spurious, based on old data on illiquid stocks. Traders over-ride these alarms on the daily and routinely.
The second relies on the exchange being your alarm bell, and no-one with experience of interface with exchanges wants to rely on that method.
As for world markets, clearly Greece is seen as too big to fail, but IMO will have to reschedule debt repayments sooner rather than later in order to avoid default. Thankfully for UK we are not in the eurozone (although personally I would welcome being part of that) and so are relatively well placed to ride out the storm. If Greece does default, best believe the cold economic chill will reach further and deeper than has hitherto been the case.
Someone on here* predicted when Lehman went down that the feelgood factor was not coming back globally until 2011. No reason to change that view right now.
*uh, it was me
Fuck that. You've had a nice run, Greece. Thanks for the old-timey philosophy and whatnot. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
Thanks for the sex and salad.
Tell you what, you can 'ave 'em back if you can pay the postage.
Thought not!
I'd hate to wake up and find a marble horse head in my bed.
I still blame the Olympics. Say eight years from now, this crisis is going to roll through Rio and the rest of South America like wild fire, only Colombia will be immune.
And it could've been Chicago.
i haven't really been paying attention to the "why" related to Greece, but Daily Show was talking about/making fun of the pretty heavy salaries and bonuses for Greek gov't workers. I've heard of the 13th month bonus, but apparently Greece was giving gov't workers a 14th month bonus as well.
Olympics probably didn't help, but i suppose it was inflated prices to contractors and such more so than real costs that would have exacerbated the issue.
I'm sorry for all world financial problems I'm causing.
We cool now?
or just find a corporate sponsor. "The Parthenon: Presented by Franzia Box Wine"