This makes me want to go out and buy 2 copies of her record and I can't even stand her music.
How sick do you have to be to believe your stupid child could be harmed in any way by seeing a woman in her underwear, or even a naked one for that matter?
What if it was some hairy old perv dude, though? That's something nobody wants to see. I think what she did is okay because she's hot, not because I think it's cool for any random body to be naked in front of me (or kids). But the law isn't necessarily structured that way.
This makes me want to go out and buy 2 copies of her record and I can't even stand her music.
How sick do you have to be to believe your stupid child could be harmed in any way by seeing a woman in her underwear, or even a naked one for that matter?
I don't think that could shock anybody and the biggest reason why you are not doing it is that you're too afraid of being laughed at.
The fact that there are people out there who think any child could be harmed by seeing a naked body, let alone a woman wearing underwear is funny as hell but at the same time hints what a twisted and backwards people they are.
all part of obama's radical fist bumping, socialist, communist, fascist agenda to exact reparations from hard working, honest white people.
seriously though, i sense a great deal of hatefulness, meanness and recklessness on the "journalist's" part that is so much more noxious and offensive than any nude human form could possibly be.
These clowns had never heard of Badu before this flap, LOL at anyone watching Fox News ever buying a Badu CD, or even being able to spell BADU.
I am telepathically urging that horrible blonde Fox teleprompter reader to take off her clothes. It's about the only positive outcome she has to offer the world.
I like how O'Reiley can't even work up a good head of steam about the whole thing. The only great thing about Glenn Beck's popularity is how deflated and sad it has made O'Reiley. These guys are such phonies it's just comical.
Their objective is to rile folks up.....and apparently they are damn good at it.
the best, in fact.
they appeal to the very worst impulses in human beings quite successfully, and this has paid off with both giant ratings and widespread condemnation.
nobody ever said roger ailes was a dummy.
PT Barnum lives on every day in Fox news, but it's the people themselves who are the most responsible parties here, we allow ourselves the room to get riled up, you can't force people to be despicable dicks. These folks just want someone to tell them it's ok, and Fox does that like clockwork.
These folks just want someone to tell them it's ok, and Fox does that like clockwork.
i wholeheartedly agree but msnbc performs the exact same function for the left.
Not disagreeing with you, the situation on the left is WAY more scattered and divergent than the Fox right, which at least all seem to agree on the big ticket items:
Taxes/Government = Bad White Entitlement = Good Abortion = Bad Guns = Good Homosexuality = Evil
while i am not bothered at all by EB's streaking and hardly share blondie's outrage, blondie does have a point. EB took a certain measure of control away from the parents who were there and forced the situation on people. i would be fine with my kids seeing a naked human, seeing as they will hopefully be counted among the human demographic. i wouldnt be ok with a redbull promoter giving a free sample to my four year old. i imagine that i will want control of my childs upbringing as much as possible and EB overrided that with what she did. outrageous, meh.inconsiderate,yes (and EB looking good...definitely)
while i am not bothered at all by EB's streaking and hardly share blondie's outrage, blondie does have a point. EB took a certain measure of control away from the parents who were there and forced the situation on people. i would be fine with my kids seeing a naked human, seeing as they will hopefully be counted among the human demographic. i wouldnt be ok with a redbull promoter giving a free sample to my four year old. i imagine that i will want control of my childs upbringing as much as possible and EB overrided that with what she did. outrageous, meh.inconsiderate,yes (and EB looking good...definitely)
I concur, I watched that clip and assumed they doctored her in there, was kind of impressed/appalled that she actually stripped and all those folks really didn't have a choice but be in the video. I do like that she got under people's skin with this though, we need it occasionally.
while i am not bothered at all by EB's streaking and hardly share blondie's outrage, blondie does have a point. EB took a certain measure of control away from the parents who were there and forced the situation on people. i would be fine with my kids seeing a naked human, seeing as they will hopefully be counted among the human demographic. i wouldnt be ok with a redbull promoter giving a free sample to my four year old. i imagine that i will want control of my childs upbringing as much as possible and EB overrided that with what she did. outrageous, meh.inconsiderate,yes (and EB looking good...definitely)
I hear what you're saying here but I think the issue has to first rest upon:
1) Whether nudity - in any form - is something that children need to be screened against.
2) Assuming it should be, do we differentiate between different purpose or forms of nudity in public? In other words, is there a difference between nudity-in-the-service-of-art (Badu or every other performance artist since the 1960s) vs. nudity-in-the-service-of-perversion (a flasher)?
Speaking as a parent, I don't have a big problem with the former but I'd have a huge problem with the latter and part of what I'd have to do, if confronted with either, is try to explain context. I can't prevent my daughter from being exposed to things I may not, ideally, want her to: two-story billboard ads, for example. But I can explain to her what I think the image means and why I would find it problematic or not.
In any case, a public display of nudity as shown in the video isn't the same as a Red Bull promoter walking deliberately up to your 4 year old and trying to convince him/her, "it'll give you wings!" (which, I think, to the average 4 year old would be a pretty good pitch). It's not like Badu was deliberately targeting kids in the plaza
1) Whether nudity - in any form - is something that children need to be screened against.
i think the issue is that there would be an enormous lack of consensus on that in the parent world
Exactly. I think nudity is contextual. I'd have a problem with a flasher stepping to my kid. But when we're at the pool in the family changing tent, I'm not going to trip at her seeing other kids, her age, naked.
as to context: as good looking as erykah badu is looking in that video, it is not a hypersexualized performance by any means. in fact the mood is introspective, reflective, downbeat...
as to context: as good looking as erykah badu is looking in that video, it is not a hypersexualized performance by any means. in fact the mood is introspective, reflective, downbeat...
I'm wondering if they shot it with sound synch; I'm assuming not. It probably have just looked like Badu walking around the plaza and stripping as she went along.
These folks just want someone to tell them it's ok, and Fox does that like clockwork.
i wholeheartedly agree but msnbc performs the exact same function for the left.
Not disagreeing with you, the situation on the left is WAY more scattered and divergent than the Fox right, which at least all seem to agree on the big ticket items:
Taxes/Government = Bad White Entitlement = Good Abortion = Bad Guns = Good Homosexuality = Evil
as to context: as good looking as erykah badu is looking in that video, it is not a hypersexualized performance by any means. in fact the mood is introspective, reflective, downbeat...
I'm wondering if they shot it with sound synch; I'm assuming not. It probably have just looked like Badu walking around the plaza and stripping as she went along.
fair enough but i guess i mean to say i don;t find that she is trying to project a sexualized image, it seems more matter-of-fact but maybe i'm wrong on that..also, the fully nude portion of that piece seems to be extremely brief, the rest isn;t anything more than you'd see at a beach or public pool.
If you want people to respect your personal feelings that public nudity is not offensive, I think you should respect others feelings that it is.
The bottom line is there are laws in most major cities that don't allow you or me to walk down the street buck naked.....Badu could have easily been arrested and prosecuted......instead she got a boatload of publicity and offended a few folks.
I support (although I don't have to agree with) the people's right to be offended by both the nudity and the fact that the law was not upheld.
If you want to take this to the next level.....
There was a case this week where a father was arrested for showing hard core porn to his daughters who were pre-teenagers....should he have that right as a parent??
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How sick do you have to be to believe your stupid child could be harmed in any way by seeing a woman in her underwear, or even a naked one for that matter?
exactly what i was thinking
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I don't think that could shock anybody and the biggest reason why you are not doing it is that you're too afraid of being laughed at.
The fact that there are people out there who think any child could be harmed by seeing a naked body, let alone a woman wearing underwear is funny as hell but at the same time hints what a twisted and backwards people they are.
More boobies would make the world a better place.
Sheep for President.
all part of obama's radical fist bumping, socialist, communist, fascist agenda to exact reparations from hard working, honest white people.
seriously though, i sense a great deal of hatefulness, meanness and recklessness on the "journalist's" part that is so much more noxious and offensive than any nude human form could possibly be.
I am telepathically urging that horrible blonde Fox teleprompter reader to take off her clothes. It's about the only positive outcome she has to offer the world.
I like how O'Reiley can't even work up a good head of steam about the whole thing. The only great thing about Glenn Beck's popularity is how deflated and sad it has made O'Reiley. These guys are such phonies it's just comical.
Exactly what I was thinking.....what next, a call to boycott SNL re-runs that feature Al Franken.
Their objective is to rile folks up.....and apparently they are damn good at it.
the best, in fact.
they appeal to the very worst impulses in human beings quite successfully, and this has paid off with both giant ratings and widespread condemnation.
nobody ever said roger ailes was a dummy.
PT Barnum lives on every day in Fox news, but it's the people themselves who are the most responsible parties here, we allow ourselves the room to get riled up, you can't force people to be despicable dicks. These folks just want someone to tell them it's ok, and Fox does that like clockwork.
i wholeheartedly agree but msnbc performs the exact same function for the left.
Not disagreeing with you, the situation on the left is WAY more scattered and divergent than the Fox right, which at least all seem to agree on the big ticket items:
Taxes/Government = Bad
White Entitlement = Good
Abortion = Bad
Guns = Good
Homosexuality = Evil
I concur, I watched that clip and assumed they doctored her in there, was kind of impressed/appalled that she actually stripped and all those folks really didn't have a choice but be in the video. I do like that she got under people's skin with this though, we need it occasionally.
like fryer said about that religious self hate shit
I hear what you're saying here but I think the issue has to first rest upon:
1) Whether nudity - in any form - is something that children need to be screened against.
2) Assuming it should be, do we differentiate between different purpose or forms of nudity in public? In other words, is there a difference between nudity-in-the-service-of-art (Badu or every other performance artist since the 1960s) vs. nudity-in-the-service-of-perversion (a flasher)?
Speaking as a parent, I don't have a big problem with the former but I'd have a huge problem with the latter and part of what I'd have to do, if confronted with either, is try to explain context. I can't prevent my daughter from being exposed to things I may not, ideally, want her to: two-story billboard ads, for example. But I can explain to her what I think the image means and why I would find it problematic or not.
In any case, a public display of nudity as shown in the video isn't the same as a Red Bull promoter walking deliberately up to your 4 year old and trying to convince him/her, "it'll give you wings!" (which, I think, to the average 4 year old would be a pretty good pitch). It's not like Badu was deliberately targeting kids in the plaza
i think the issue is that there would be an enormous lack of consensus on that in the parent world
Exactly. I think nudity is contextual. I'd have a problem with a flasher stepping to my kid. But when we're at the pool in the family changing tent, I'm not going to trip at her seeing other kids, her age, naked.
I'm wondering if they shot it with sound synch; I'm assuming not. It probably have just looked like Badu walking around the plaza and stripping as she went along.
I heart Dylan Ratigan.
fair enough but i guess i mean to say i don;t find that she is trying to project a sexualized image, it seems more matter-of-fact but maybe i'm wrong on that..also, the fully nude portion of that piece seems to be extremely brief, the rest isn;t anything more than you'd see at a beach or public pool.
The bottom line is there are laws in most major cities that don't allow you or me to walk down the street buck naked.....Badu could have easily been arrested and prosecuted......instead she got a boatload of publicity and offended a few folks.
I support (although I don't have to agree with) the people's right to be offended by both the nudity and the fact that the law was not upheld.
If you want to take this to the next level.....
There was a case this week where a father was arrested for showing hard core porn to his daughters who were pre-teenagers....should he have that right as a parent??