Soulstrut Catnip: Hipsters on Foodstamps

Garcia_VegaGarcia_Vega 2,428 Posts
edited March 2010 in Strut Central
Punch them in the face, or Arugula potluck? From a Salon article In the John Waters-esque sector of northwest Baltimore -- equal parts kitschy, sketchy, artsy and weird -- Gerry Mak and Sarah Magida sauntered through a small ethnic market stocked with Japanese eggplant, mint chutney and fresh turmeric. After gathering ingredients for that evening's dinner, they walked to the cash register and awaited their moments of truth."I have $80 bucks left!" Magida said. "I'm so happy!""I have $12," Mak said with a frown.The two friends weren't tabulating the cash in their wallets but what remained of the monthly allotment on their Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program debit cards, the official new term for what are still known colloquially as food stamps.Magida, a 30-year-old art school graduate, had been installing museum exhibits for a living until the recession caused arts funding -- and her usual gigs -- to dry up. She applied for food stamps last summer, and since then she's used her $150 in monthly benefits for things like fresh produce, raw honey and fresh-squeezed juices from markets near her house in the neighborhood of Hampden, and soy meat alternatives and gourmet ice cream from a Whole Foods a few miles away."I'm eating better than I ever have before," she told me. "Even with food stamps, it's not like I'm living large, but it helps."Mak, 31, grew up in Westchester, graduated from the University of Chicago and toiled in publishing in New York during his 20s before moving to Baltimore last year with a meager part-time blogging job and prospects for little else. About half of his friends in Baltimore have been getting food stamps since the economy toppled, so he decided to give it a try; to his delight, he qualified for $200 a month."I'm sort of a foodie, and I'm not going to do the 'living off ramen' thing," he said, fondly remembering a recent meal he'd prepared of roasted rabbit with butter, tarragon and sweet potatoes. "I used to think that you could only get processed food and government cheese on food stamps, but it's great that you can get anything."Think of it as the effect of a grinding recession crossed with the epicurean tastes of young people as obsessed with food as previous generations were with music and sex. Faced with lingering unemployment, 20- and 30-somethings with college degrees and foodie standards are shaking off old taboos about who should get government assistance and discovering that government benefits can indeed be used for just about anything edible, including wild-caught fish, organic asparagus and triple-cr?me cheese.Food policy experts and human resource administrators are quick to point out that the overwhelming majority of the record 38 million Americans now using food stamps are their traditional recipients: the working poor, the elderly and single parents on welfare.But they also note that recent changes made to the program as part of last year's stimulus package, which relaxed the restrictions on able-bodied adults without dependents to collect food stamps, have made some young singles around the country eligible for the first time."There are many 20-somethings from educated families who go through a period of unemployment and live very frugally, maybe even technically in poverty, who now qualify," said Parke Wilde, a food economist at Tufts University who has written extensively about food stamp usage and policy.The increase in food stamp use among this demographic is hard to measure, as they represent a cross section of characteristics not specifically tracked by the Agriculture Department, which administers the program.But general unemployment figures among the group are stark: Between the ends of 2007 and 2009, unemployment among those aged 20 to 34 rose 100 percent, and between 2006 and 2009, unemployment among those with a bachelor's degree or higher was up 179 percent.And in cities that are magnets for 20- and 30-something creatives and young professionals, the kinds of food markets that specialize in delectables like artisanal bread, heirloom tomatoes and grass-fed beef have seen significant upticks in food stamp payments among their typical shoppers. At the Wedge, a market in the stylish Uptown neighborhood of Minneapolis; at New Seasons Market, a series of nine specialty stores in and around Portland, Ore.; and at Rainbow Grocery, a stalwart for food lovers in San Francisco's Mission District, food stamp purchases have doubled in the past year."The use has gone way up in the last six months," said Eric Wilcox, a cashier who has worked at Rainbow Grocery in San Francisco for 10 years. "We're seeing a lot more young people in their 20s purchasing organic food with food stamp cards. I wouldn't say it's limited to hipster people, but I'm certainly surprised to see them with cards."Young urbanites with a taste for ciabatta may legitimately be among the new poor, but their participation in the program is far from universally accepted. A New York Times story in late November about the program's explosive growth generated a storm of comments online, with many readers lobbing familiar accusations of laziness and irresponsibility.But there seems to be a special strain of ire reserved for those like the self-described "30-something, unemployed, ex-fashionista, EBT armed, post-hipster, downtown mom" from New York who, in January, drew nearly 500 comments on the Web site Urbanbaby.com, many seething with fury at her for trying to maintain the trappings of a materialistic, cosmopolitan life while using an Electronic Benefit Transfer card -- food stamps -- to feed her family. (Her blog is now password-protected.)"You're hosting dinner parties and buying cases of wine -- on taxpayers' money!" one person wrote. "Your attitude is so objectionable that you're like a trainwreck; it's hard to look away." (One cannot, in fact, buy wine with food stamps, though dinner party ingredients are fair game.)And on the blog Stuff Unemployed People Like, along with "not showering regularly" and "sleeping in while your significant other goes to work," a post last year touted "buying Perrier with food stamps" and sarcastically claimed that "the fancier the food, the more glee there is in knowing the government has once again helped in enabling a lavish lifestyle." Of the reader responses that poured in, many were food stamp users who defended their shopping choices (including, yes, Perrier) while others attacked them."While one person works their butt off," one wrote, "another is just waiting in line so they can recieve [sic] their 'luxury' food stamps and recieve [sic] basically whatever they want."But among young food stamp recipients I spoke with, there's less glee than traces of embarrassment about their situations; few want to be seen handing over applications at the human resource office, and they can be sheepish about presenting their snap cards in a checkout line.Josh Ankerberg, a 26-year-old who lives in Brooklyn, N.Y., started getting food stamps a year ago as an AmeriCorps volunteer, a group that has long had special dispensation to qualify for them, and he has continued using them while he job hunts. He uses his $200 in monthly benefits at Trader Joe's, Whole Foods and a local farmer's market to maintain his self-described healthy flexitarian diet, and notes that two of his roommates -- a graduate student in poetry and an underemployed cook, both in their 20s -- also started getting food stamps in the past two months, as have other friends and acquaintances.Still, Ankerberg said, "There's a sort of uneasiness about it. A few friends that are artists in Williamsburg are like, 'Don't say we're on food stamps too loudly. Just keep it between you and me.'"At the same time, there seems to be little
moral quandary about collecting a benefit traditionally thought of as intended for the downtrodden. In a nondiscriminating recession that laid waste almost across the board, the feeling is that anyone who meets the near-poverty level requirements for collecting food stamps shouldn't feel guilty about doing so.Controversy about how they use food stamps marks an interesting shift from the classic critique that the program subsidizes diets laden with soda pop and junk food. But from that perspective, food stamp-using foodies might be applauded for demonstrating that one can, indeed, eat healthy and make delicious home-cooked meals on a tight budget.And while they might be questioned for viewing premium ingredients as a necessity, it could also be argued that they're eating the best and most conscious way they know how. They are often cooking at home. They are using fresh ingredients. This is, after all, a generation steeped in Michael Pollan books, bountiful farmer's markets and a fetish for all things sustainable and handcrafted. Is it wrong to believe there should be a local, free-range chicken in every Le Creuset pot?At Magida's brick row house in Baltimore, she and Mak minced garlic while observing that one of the upsides of unemployment was having plenty of time to cook elaborate meals, and that among their friends, they had let go of any bad feelings about how their food was procured."It's not a thing people feel ashamed of, at least not around here," said Mak. "It feels like a necessity right now."Savory aromas wafted through the kitchen as a table was set with a heaping plate of Thai yellow curry with coconut milk and lemongrass, Chinese gourd saut?ed in hot chile sauce and sweet clementine juice, all of it courtesy of government assistance."At first, I thought, 'Why should I be on food stamps?'" said Magida, digging into her dinner. "Here I am, this educated person who went to art school, and there are a lot of people who need them more. But then I realized, I need them, too."
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  • SoulhawkSoulhawk 3,197 Posts
    get that dole money dawg

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
    "Food policy experts and human resource administrators are quick to point out that the overwhelming majority of the record 38 million Americans now using food stamps are their traditional recipients: the working poor, the elderly and single parents on welfare."

    I could really give a f*ck about what sounds like a tiny % of people gaming the system.

  • SoulhawkSoulhawk 3,197 Posts
    gaming the system.

    how are they gaming the system?

    poor is poor

    art school grad or not

    (sorry, just trying to get this thread going until Rockadelic shows up with some 'get off my lawn' indignation )

  • DB_CooperDB_Cooper Manhatin' 7,823 Posts
    Is it not gratifying to know that their art school career path and sense of lifestyle entitlement has failed them, leaving them broke and on food stamps?

  • well, if there is any "gaming" going on i think it is in the sense that the article is mostly talking about able-bodied, youthful people who for the most part could get minimum wage, low-prestige jobs if they wanted to but would rather try to sustain themselves this way possibly because it involves less effort and very likely because it stems from a sense of entitlement ("i went to art school, i deserve better!!")

    that said, people are really hurting and i think articles like this can give an extremely misleading picture of one of society's most important safety nets.

    there will always be free-riders but the notion of an army of welfare or hipster kings and queens is a bit much..

  • DuderonomyDuderonomy Haut de la Garenne 7,793 Posts


    Mak, 31, grew up in Westchester, graduated from the University of Chicago and toiled in publishing in New York during his 20s before moving to Baltimore last year with a meager part-time blogging job and prospects for little else[/b].

    Which Strutter is this?

  • willie_fugalwillie_fugal 1,862 Posts
    roasted rabbit with butter, tarragon and sweet potatoes.

  • SnappingSnapping 995 Posts
    If these people are buying the groceries described in this article they are clearly not eating on their $150-$200 a month food stamp disbursement alone. Obvously they have no shame in letting the gub-ment subsidize some extra treats on top of what mom and dad are
    paying for.

  • Garcia_VegaGarcia_Vega 2,428 Posts
    well, if there is any "gaming" going on i think it is in the sense that the article is mostly talking about able-bodied, youthful people who for the most part could get minimum wage, low-prestige jobs if they wanted to but would rather try to sustain themselves this way possibly because it involves less effort and very likely because it stems from a sense of entitlement ("i went to art school, i deserve better!!")


    Exactly, its not like these people are down and out living in the margins of society. Technically they qualify as long as they can prove that they are sending resumes to galleries and art houses, but what they should really be doing is completely rethinking their career paths. These are college educated people, not the residents of section 8 housing. Giving hipsters foodstamps is promoting a society of entitlement.

  • SoulhawkSoulhawk 3,197 Posts
    Giving hipsters foodstamps is promoting a society of entitlement.

    as compared to the generations of urban poor using food stamps at my local supermarket?

    society should expect better of the hipsters?

    lets get all racial on this


  • Garcia_VegaGarcia_Vega 2,428 Posts
    Giving hipsters foodstamps is promoting a society of entitlement.

    as compared to the generations of urban poor using food stamps at my local supermarket?

    society should expect better of the hipsters?

    lets get all racial on this


    I feel much more compassion for a single mother working a minum wage job, than for Zooey who's parent's pay her rent while she tries to "make it" in the art/writing/music world. Zoey has been given a lot more opportunities in life than your average person on foodstamps, and she is basically wanting the art world equivalent to making it in the NBA. Suck it up Zoe, there are paralegal openings everywhere.

  • SoulhawkSoulhawk 3,197 Posts
    Suck it up Zoe, there are paralegal openings everywhere.



    are there no prisons? are there no workhouses?

    ---

  • gaming the system.

    how are they gaming the system?

    poor is poor

    art school grad or not

    (sorry, just trying to get this thread going until Rockadelic shows up with some 'get off my lawn' indignation )

    I didn't read the article, but that was my initial thought, as well. Who cares what social circle you run with...if you need food stamps, so be it. Get 'em and use 'em.

  • The-gafflerThe-gaffler 2,190 Posts
    gafflin on 'em

  • mylatencymylatency 10,475 Posts
    Suck it up Zoe, there are paralegal openings everywhere.


    funny thing is, I do know a few Zoez doing well as paralegal/office manager types

    HIPSTERS WAKE UP AND LISTEN TO COOLIO AND MIKE JONES:



    U DON'T GRIND U DON'T SHINE

  • FrankFrank 2,379 Posts
    I think a lot of these hipsters really aren't even remotely as well-off as most of you people think. Even before the recession, I think pretty much the entire western world for the first time experienced a situation where it should be clear to everyone that the twens of today will not be able to enjoy the same high standard of living as their parents did. A lot of those kids probably dress so shitty because they really can't afford something nice. They drink PBR because they can't afford to get drunk on real beer. They grow beards because all the cheap shit that they consume gives them bad skin. They don't deserve our hate, they deserve our pity. Look at them. When they go out, they rarely have any real fun, they get plagued by early headaches from all that cheap alcohol, too weak and tired to get laid, no money for drugs, they always seem to have to go home in time, most of them probably even have jobs... kids today are the new parents.

  • Lucious_FoxLucious_Fox 2,479 Posts
    A lot of those kids probably dress so shitty because they really can't afford something nicedress in the first place.

  • FrankFrank 2,379 Posts
    A lot of those kids probably dress so shitty because they really can't afford something nicedress in the first place.

    Doesn't make it any less sad...
    Next time you see a hipster, throw some coins at him.

  • Lucious_FoxLucious_Fox 2,479 Posts
    A lot of those kids probably dress so shitty because they really can't afford something nicedress in the first place.

    Doesn't make it any less sad...
    Next time you see a hipster, throw some coins at him.

    I wonder if we'll see a Generation of Homeless Hipsters like u used to see a gang of Punk teens all over the city.

  • SoulhawkSoulhawk 3,197 Posts
    homeless hipsters living in old iPhones boxes & shit

  • white_teawhite_tea 3,262 Posts

    I think a lot of these hipsters really aren't even remotely as well-off as most of you people think. Even before the recession, I think pretty much the entire western world for the first time experienced a situation where it should be clear to everyone that the twens of today will not be able to enjoy te same high standard of living as their parents did. A lot of those kids probably dress so shitty because they really can't afford something nice. They drink PBR because they can't afford to get drunk on real beer. They grow beards because all the cheap shit that they consume gives them bad skin. They don't deserve our hate, they deserve our pity. Look at them. When they go out, they rarely have any real fun, they get plagued by early headaches from all that cheap alcohol, they have to go home early, most of them probably even have jobs... kids today are the new parents.



    That movie Food Inc was nominated for the best documentary Oscar. My biggest complaint, and something that I thought derailed the fairly solid case the film had gathered, was the poor family toward the end that couldn't "afford" to eat anything but fast food. There was a scene with a young girl who picked up some broccoli at the grocery store and her parents made her put it back. All they can "afford" to eat is the cheap calories from McDonald's so they can pay for the father's diabetes medication. Where am I doing with this? I don't know, but I don't disparage someone who doesn't have a lot of money from using what they have to eat well. It's like the article about those modern-day cavemen in the New York Times, naked and hunting, overrunning a dear in the park and then eating it right there, but then knowing that the raw meat would be their sustenance for a couple of days. Yeah, on food stamps, you might have to trade up your grass-fed porterhouse for a fillet, your red-wine shallot reduction for a yellow onion and a dash of beer, but it's still going to be a bigger meal than Ramen noodles, Hawaiian Punch and a Ho-ho. I would have appreciated a little covering-of-the-bases as far as income levels and food stamps type of information. And as far as the low-paid blogger, people don't want to buy newspapers or magazines is fine, but you pay for what you get: some ex-art student blogger on food stamps running the Fourth Estate. F*ck that.

  • Lucious_FoxLucious_Fox 2,479 Posts
    haha

  • FrankFrank 2,379 Posts
    A lot of those kids probably dress so shitty because they really can't afford something nicedress in the first place.

    Doesn't make it any less sad...
    Next time you see a hipster, throw some coins at him.

    I wonder if we'll see a Generation of Homeless Hipsters like u used to see a gang of Punk teens all over the city.

    I'm sure we haven't yet seen the worst of it...

  • tripledoubletripledouble 7,636 Posts
    whatever. do what you gotta do, so i'm not gonna begrudge anyone for getting food stamps. i'll get them if i ever need them. but F*ck if i'ma let myself get in that position.

    agree with white tea though, if you got them, dont buy shit food

  • street_muzikstreet_muzik 3,919 Posts
    I remember when foodstamps were part of the street economy, back when they were actually made from paper.

  • dwyhajlodwyhajlo 420 Posts
    All they can "afford" to eat is the cheap calories from McDonald's so they can pay for the father's diabetes medication.

    How does this work? I don't really eat fast food, so I don't know how much it costs, but can't you buy enough food at a grocery store to make food for several days with what you would drop at McDonald's in one meal?

    Sorry if I'm a bit here.

  • Lucious_FoxLucious_Fox 2,479 Posts
    All they can "afford" to eat is the cheap calories from McDonald's so they can pay for the father's diabetes medication.

    How does this work? I don't really eat fast food, so I don't know how much it costs, but can't you buy enough food at a grocery store to make food for several days with what you would drop at McDonald's in one meal?

    Sorry if I'm a bit here.

    Sayin -

    A head of Broccolli should be less than French Fries and/or Regular Hamburger

  • Garcia_VegaGarcia_Vega 2,428 Posts
    All they can "afford" to eat is the cheap calories from McDonald's so they can pay for the father's diabetes medication.

    How does this work? I don't really eat fast food, so I don't know how much it costs, but can't you buy enough food at a grocery store to make food for several days with what you would drop at McDonald's in one meal?

    Sorry if I'm a bit here.

    Sayin -

    A head of Broccolli should be less than French Fries and/or Regular Hamburger

    Broccoli is on average $1.60 per pound, get organic broccoli and the price almost doubles. 1/4 double cheeseburger at Burger King: $1.

  • The_NonThe_Non 5,691 Posts
    Just to stir the pot a bit:
    My ex was on food stamps at one point. She told me how remarkable it was that people in the DSS office (she was from a middle class family and out on her own lost her job, had a hard time) had the newest cellphones, Nintendo DS for their children, etc., yet couldn't buy "good food" to eat. Food stamps provides you with enough money to shop wisely and buy healthy food for you and your kids, people just don't.

  • read also: "escalades and big screens in the ghetto".

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