30 ROCK/OFFICE THREAD
pickwick33
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because the two shows run back to back, so im starting to think of em as the same programRashida Jones was killin' it on The Office just because she's Rashida Jones! (eye-candy related)i mean salma hayek (on 30 Rock right now) is hot too, but DAAAAAAAAAMNhold it, gotta get back to my show
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That was easily my favorite 30 Rock of the season. Alec Baldwin was X 2 as Jack and the Generalissimo. For the most part it didn't have the broad gags that I get tired of (the Tracy and Jenna staff appreciation subplot from a recent episode) but really, really sharp witty lines. "You know, most visitors don't get to see Conan without his wig." "And now, the music of Tito Puente and pictures of cute Latin kids" etc. The Tracy with the Fratboys subplot was a little weak but it had minimal impact on the overall pace of the show and provided a nice plot point for the Liz subplot.
The Office was good too, even playing pregnant, Rashida Jones is nice to see.
AND Monty Python!
I want to go to there!
I enjoyed last night's ep, though.
What was the context of the imbecile line, I remember laughing pretty hard at that.
Mad weird seeing dude from Mad Men out of his 60's character, we just finished both seasons last month, and my girl had no idea who he was until 20 minutes in...
Jim and Dwight missing Kelly's birthday, they apologize and ask how they can make it up, she says something about how no one should ever have to go through the pain she's been through or something like that and then Dwight says the imbecile line.
I am feeling the proposed return of Holly.
Also looking forward to Stringer Bell joining the cast. I was going to link the Variety article about it but I get a bunch of pop-ups and crap on my comupter.
There was a bunch of great lines int he episode after the SB but I was pretty stoned and can't really remember them, the whole episode did seem a too busy though.
I like 30 Rock's ode's t tv shows they've been doing. Their ode to telenovelas last night was good, but I could've done without the cheap stereotype humor like scratch off tickets and other crap, although the latin kids and Tito Puente was funny.
Speaking of which, I actually don't mind the broad-stroke Jenna jokes, shes a great character. The real question is does it seem to anyone like they are slimming down the ensemble? Where's the Jimmy Fallon dude, the secretary, and all the writers? Cost cutting-related maybe?
Funny you bring her up, 'cause Jenna (and Tracy) got scaled back last night as well! Well, Tracy did have a subplot, but he wasn't a presence like he always is. And Frank always miraculously pops up just when you think he's totally gone (he's such a goof that there is way too much comedy gold to be mined from him).
As far as ensemble comedies, I haven't seen Sunday's Office - yet - so I missed Stanley's heart attack, but I was thinking he should get more plot lines. Kevin (who was barely visible last night at all), Meredith and Creed are best as secondary folks who are good for a joke or two, but I'd like some more insight into Stanley's world.
with regards to the recent episode, baldwin was amazing. i totally forgive him for calling his daughter a "thoughtless pig", in fact i'd probably laugh if i heard him say that, because dude's delievery is on point. tina fey is hot as hell, i used to drool over her on weekend update. i'd hit on her, put she'd probably turn me in to the fbi when im really training for amazing race.
anyhow, 30 rock is my new arrested development, i wish it much success.
Every nutcase needs a straight man to make them look nuttier. That's Twofer's gig.
i think that was or was supposed to be the case in the beginning, but i think kenneth fills that role or is at least a better contrast with tracy. don't get me wrong i think two-fer would have had great potential, but his character is too weak, i mean u can do a lot with an intellectual, like Brian the dog from family guy...or Black Frasier(lmao that was one of the best cutaways ever) but two-fer is just too one dimensional.
I couldn't call Kenneth a straight man, because his freak flag is flying high for all to see. I think "contrast" is the better word, and pairing him with weirdo Tracy brings out the best in both men.
Twofer doesn't really play off of Tracy that much - there may have been an episode or a scene where Twofer the buppie oreo is thrown in a situation with Tracy the psychotic brother from the hood, but the writers don't lean on that. Twofer is usually teamed up with nerdy Frank (and sometimes Jenna). There's no kind of depth to his character, you're right about that, but in small doses, his reactions to Frank and Jenna hit the mark.
I could say the same thing about Lutz.
30 Rock doesn't handle all their secondary characters as well as The Office does. You might go weeks without seeing much of The Office's Stanley, but he never out-and-out disappears like Lutz, Twofer and that one male actor (not Tracy) on Jenna's show.
Also, Holly was on the Wire too, and she and Omar were both in Gone Baby Gone as well. Seems like they migrate in pairs.
Speaking of Wire actors making moves, did anyone catch Fringe the other week. First off, Lance Reddick (Cedric Daniels) is a regular on the cast, but the episode with brain melting featured Chris Partlow as a computer geek AND Frank Sobotka as the villain.
Wow, Chris AND Frank? Nice one!
I also saw that Seth Gilliam (Carver) is on one of the many Law & Order shows.
'Cause I'm surrounded by naysayers!
WORDPLAY!
"Can't you see I'm urinating?"[/b]
There was NOTHING wrong with last night's episodes. Both were funny as burning hell, although it did seem like on 30 Rock they were trying to tone down Tina Fey's sex appeal so all the "Liz Lemon: homely" jokes would make more sense...
b/w
Idris Elba flashed back to his "I'll punk yo ass for saying some shit like that!" confrontation with Poot for a second there. Good times.
And I'm looking forward to seeing Ryan at his new place of work with his blond dye job...
[i]"When do I get some Tang? Also, I'm Thirsty.
WORD PLAY!"
I wouldn't doubt it. That was funny as heck, btw.
I've seen several other folks point out that Charles is sorta like Frank Grimes was on The Simpsons: A dose of the real world. So the conflict is between the little world that The Office has and a "what would happen if an actual manager walked into this situation?" sort of thing. And the actual manager would probably be pretty much like Charles. I like the way they're playing it.
The "Wordplay!" jokes on 30 Rock were killing me.
Dude stop, I'm lizzing!!!
When Jack brought in the deaf person to read lips and he throws up in the video, oh man.
And as much as I like Idris Elba, who is Charles supposed to be? It all felt too out of left field for me.
And Angela is into him? Really?