I wear American Apparelb, 21I collect vinylb, 21I collect comic booksb, 21I dont prefer to drink PBR but if its the only thing left in the party fridge - yb, 21I am Hip Hopb, 21I collect sneakersb, 21I kinda know my wineb, 21I own a Dell and use on Mac at workb, 21I work at a museum and have a gang of art friendsb, 21I used to DJ but stopped when Ipods took overb, 21I dont frequent restaurantsb, 21I cook and like Food Networkb, 21I poast on SoulStrutb, 21I dont watch Sopranos,The Wire,The Office,or Curb Your Enthusiasmb, 21I rock loud colorsb, 21I smoke American Spirit Yellowb, 21I dont have petsb, 21I make decent moneyb, 21I am not a Kanye West fanb, 21I ride a Mountain bike but only leisurely
Quote:h, 21b, 21How do you define "substance"? b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21Substance would be having some social goal or impact beyond trying to be cool. b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21What about Disco or the Rave subculture of the 90's? b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21Both of those at least had some general ethos and love (or PLUR) and the goal of having really great parties. Not to say they weren't also commodified to death, but that's the general trend for any U.S. subculture. What's the quote again? Everything starts as a movement, turns into a trend, then a gimmick, and ends up bring a hustle. The thing about hipsters is that they didn't start anywhere and went straight to being a hustle. That's where they share a similarity with yuppies. There's never been any goal other than consumption.
I'm kinda confused at the connection the article was trying to make between hipsters and current marketing? near as i can tell, hipsters are far more likely to buy second hand clothing and don't seem like a "marketers dream" or something with lots of disposable income, etc? or did i miss something?
Quote:h, 21b, 21b, 21b, 21In the 80's a hipster was a "poseur" and in the 90's a "scenester"b, 21 b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21There were multitude of poseur filled clubs in every city in the 80s??? b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21Yes. Explain to me the similarities between a "yuppie" and a "hipster."b, 21b, 21This should be good. b, 21b, 21h, 21
font class="post"1b, 21b, 21I'm sorry. I never hear of any. As I recall "Poseur" was the term if there was a single person or small group of people that didn't fit in the punk/skate and to a small degree the hip-hop scene. There wasn't clubs all over the city filled with them. They were the ones who were treated as outcast at these places.b, 21b, 21While yuppie clubs were filled all over with young professions with disposable incomes to blow. Using their money to make them "Hip". Buying their clothing, their art, their drugs to make them hip... b, 21b, 21h, 21
font class="post"1b, 21b, 21FAILb, 21b, 21Hipsters are not professionals
Quote:h, 21b, 21I'm kinda confused at the connection the article was trying to make between hipsters and current marketing? near as i can tell, hipsters are far more likely to buy second hand clothing and don't seem like a "marketers dream" or something with lots of disposable income, etc? or did i miss something? b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21The "hipsters" I know come from Middle class families. Rock "second hand" clothing because of choice and not because they have to worry about food vs clothing. b, 21b, 21I dont know what going on in other towns and cities but most of them/us arent poor. It can be Ralph living w/ 3 roomates and chose to move to expensive NYC.b, 21He or she can range from Ralph to Katlynn w/ a three figure gig and live in a downtown condo. Both shop at Trader Joe's.b, 21b, 21I dont really have a problem w/ it. There are too many variations IMO to hatt on all if the "culture".b, 21b, 21Yuppie's and Hippies seemed to be conscious and willing to live their lifestyle.b, 21b, 21I think Hipsters are quite "whatever" about where theyre positioned w/in society.
Quote:h, 21b, 21I wear American Apparelb, 21I collect vinylb, 21I collect comic booksb, 21I dont prefer to drink PBR but if its the only thing left in the party fridge - yb, 21I am Hip Hopb, 21I collect sneakersb, 21I kinda know my wineb, 21I own a Dell and use on Mac at workb, 21I work at a museum and have a gang of art friendsb, 21I used to DJ but stopped when Ipods took overb, 21I dont frequent restaurantsb, 21I cook and like Food Networkb, 21I poast on SoulStrutb, 21I dont watch Sopranos,The Wire,The Office,or Curb Your Enthusiasmb, 21I rock loud colorsb, 21I smoke American Spirit Yellowb, 21I dont have petsb, 21I make decent moneyb, 21I am not a Kanye West fanb, 21I ride a Mountain bike but only leisurely b, 21b, 21h, 21
Quote:h, 21b, 21I'm kinda confused at the connection the article was trying to make between hipsters and current marketing? near as i can tell, hipsters are far more likely to buy second hand clothing and don't seem like a "marketers dream" or something with lots of disposable income, etc? or did i miss something? b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21Who the hell else is going to pay $400 for some neon sneakers? Hipsters are a marketers dream because their whole scene is based on fetishizing objects i.e. giving them a false value. That's the whole goal of marketing. Getting people to make irrational decisions to buy things that they don't need for more than they're worth.
Quote:h, 21b, 21I wear American Apparelb, 21I collect vinylb, 21I collect comic booksb, 21I dont prefer to drink PBR but if its the only thing left in the party fridge - yb, 21I am Hip Hopb, 21I collect sneakersb, 21I kinda know my wineb, 21I own a Dell and use on Mac at workb, 21I work at a museum and have a gang of art friendsb, 21I used to DJ but stopped when Ipods took overb, 21I dont frequent restaurantsb, 21I cook and like Food Networkb, 21I poast on SoulStrutb, 21I dont watch Sopranos,The Wire,The Office,or Curb Your Enthusiasmb, 21I rock loud colorsb, 21I smoke American Spirit Yellowb, 21I dont have petsb, 21I make decent moneyb, 21I am not a Kanye West fanb, 21I ride a Mountain bike but only leisurely b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21b, 21b, 21why does batmon not like restaurants, and are restaurants hipster?b, 21b, 21also, why is bowties on this blipster list? i haven't seen the skin tight jeans x white vanx x tucker carlson bowtie look yet in philly.
Quote:h, 21b, 21fetishizing objects i.e. giving them a false value. That's the whole goal of marketing. Getting people to make irrational decisions to buy things that they don't need for more than they're worth.b, 21b, 21h, 21
Quote:h, 21b, 21fetishizing objects i.e. giving them a false value. That's the whole goal of marketing. Getting people to make irrational decisions to buy things that they don't need for more than they're worth.b, 21b, 21h, 21
Quote:h, 21b, 21I'm kinda confused at the connection the article was trying to make between hipsters and current marketing? near as i can tell, hipsters are far more likely to buy second hand clothing and don't seem like a "marketers dream" or something with lots of disposable income, etc? or did i miss something? b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21Who the hell else is going to pay $400 for some neon sneakers? Hipsters are a marketers dream because their whole scene is based on fetishizing objects i.e. giving them a false value. That's the whole goal of marketing. Getting people to make irrational decisions to buy things that they don't need for more than they're worth. b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21While I agree with you on the goal of marketing, I fail to see how this translates to the hipster arena. Near as I can tell, no marketers have effectively taken advantage of this to a degree of worthy of calling them a "marketers dream"? Anybody got any examples? And as for the $400 kicks, I think the paying a lot for shoes goes far beyond just hipsters.
Quote:h, 21b, 21I'm kinda confused at the connection the article was trying to make between hipsters and current marketing? near as i can tell, hipsters are far more likely to buy second hand clothing and don't seem like a "marketers dream" or something with lots of disposable income, etc? or did i miss something? b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21Who the hell else is going to pay $400 for some neon sneakers? Hipsters are a marketers dream because their whole scene is based on fetishizing objects i.e. giving them a false value. That's the whole goal of marketing. Getting people to make irrational decisions to buy things that they don't need for more than they're worth. b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21While I agree with you on the goal of marketing, I fail to see how this translates to the hipster arena. Near as I can tell, no marketers have effectively taken advantage of this to a degree of worthy of calling them a "marketers dream"? Anybody got any examples? And as for the $400 kicks, I think the paying a lot for shoes goes far beyond just hipsters. b, 21b, 21h, 21
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Quote:h, 21b, 21Near as I can tell, no marketers have effectively taken advantage of this to a degree of worthy of calling them a "marketers dream"? Anybody got any examples? b, 21b, 21h, 21
font class="post"1b, 21 b, 21b, 21h, 21font class="post"1b, 21b, 21yeah, American Apparel is a good example of a biz built around hipsters.b, 21b, 21but sarah jessica parker... or the dude from entourage in spandex - i don't see it.
Quote:h, 21b, 21Near as I can tell, no marketers have effectively taken advantage of this to a degree of worthy of calling them a "marketers dream"? Anybody got any examples? b, 21b, 21h, 21
font class="post"1b, 21 b, 21b, 21h, 21
font class="post"1b, 21b, 21yeah, American Apparel is a good example of a biz built around hipsters.b, 21b, 21but sarah jessica parker... or the dude from entourage in spandex - i don't see it. b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21
American Apparel makes nice tshirts and sweatshirts in different colors.b, 21b, 21Adbusters is a magazine aimed at hipsters, seems like shooting themselves in the foot.
Quote:h, 21b, 21American Apparel makes nice tshirts and sweatshirts in different colors.b, 21b, 21Adbusters is a magazine aimed at hipsters, seems like shooting themselves in the foot. b, 21b, 21h, 21
Quote:h, 21b, 21American Apparel makes nice tshirts and sweatshirts in different colors.b, 21b, 21Adbusters is a magazine aimed at hipsters, seems like shooting themselves in the foot. b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21b, 21^^^^^^^^hipster b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21T-t-t-totally dude.b, 21b, 21Seriously though, adbusters is a turd magazine for people that believe they're 'resisting the system', so if you're gonna keep your subscription at least start rocking a mohawk or no health insurance.
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