Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21b, 21My poorly articluated point was that he is even more disenguous that your average politician. b, 21b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21I don't see it. but I am open to whatever evidence you can provide.b, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21Lamont should have wiped the floor with Lieberman.b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21why is that exactly?
b, 21b, 21like I said, a majority of CT residents have shown their support for him on the issues that matter most to them. that's how he gets reelected. and if he goes down next election cycle it will likely be his McCain endorsement that sinks him, not the Iraq war.b, 21b, 21perhaps a majority of CT voters do not place as much importance on his Iraq stance as you do? or perhaps a majority of CT voters feel that a candidate should have more than exactly one[/b] issue and zero[/b] record before he challenges a senator with a career of public service on their behalf.
b, 21b, 21Thus the answer to the question this thread posed.b, 21b, 21Yes. b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21b, 21i don't think so. the goal is to make the lieberman issue insignificant. if they had booted him, it would have been a news story for weeks as republicans would say the dems were spiteful and out for revenge. lieberman might also use the opportunity to make himself out as a martyr for independent thinkers...as ridiculous as that may sound.b, 21b, 21heads of committees can be removed at any point. if lieberman continues to bash the dems and obama, i don't see him carrying on to his position very long. b, 21b, 21to answer the original question - a large majority of dems do not ride for lieberman, and i'm sure the same goes for republicans. not sure who that leaves besides mccain..
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21b, 21to answer the original question - a large majority of dems do not ride for lieberman, and i'm sure the same goes for republicans. not sure who that leaves besides mccain.. b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21b, 21lol...yeah that only leaves strong pluralities (and twice absolute majorities) of CT voters since 1988.
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21b, 21to answer the original question - a large majority of dems do not ride for lieberman, and i'm sure the same goes for republicans. not sure who that leaves besides mccain.. b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21b, 21lol...yeah that only leaves strong pluralities (and twice absolute majorities) of CT voters since 1988. b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21b, 21i'm sure he also won some student council elections as well. b, 21b, 21if the senate race was '08 and not '06, please believe he would not have won. the dems scrambled to pick a guy, ned lamont, with zero experience, and still lieberman barely won.....and this was before he campaigned for a republican and went on tour slamming obama with typical republican propaganda. b, 21b, 21the only way lieberman will stay in congress past the next election is if he moves to palm beach.b, 21b, 21the guy is more of a disgrace to jews than jack abramoff.
I have read a bunch of editorials in the last week saying that Obama (following in the footsteps of Lincoln) will surround himself with his enemies. b, 21b, 21Thus Sen Clinton will get a cabinet appointment.b, 21McCain has been recruited to help build coalitions in the senate.b, 21And Lieberman gets to keep his HS chair. b, 21b, 21I do not endorse this strategy. b, 21b, 21I think of Linda Tripp, a republican in the White House, who laid in the weed until she found some dirt to destroy the president. Who knows how much other bad news from the WH was leaked by Tripp before she hit the jackpot.
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21b, 21to answer the original question - a large majority of dems do not ride for lieberman, and i'm sure the same goes for republicans. not sure who that leaves besides mccain.. b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21b, 21lol...yeah that only leaves strong pluralities (and twice absolute majorities) of CT voters since 1988. b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21b, 21i'm sure he also won some student council elections as well. b, 21b, 21if the senate race was '08 and not '06, please believe he would not have won. the dems scrambled to pick a guy, ned lamont, with zero experience, and still lieberman barely won.....and this was before he campaigned for a republican and went on tour slamming obama with typical republican propaganda. b, 21b, 21the only way lieberman will stay in congress past the next election is if he moves to palm beach.b, 21b, 21the guy is more of a disgrace to jews than jack abramoff. b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21b, 21as usual you are talking out of your ass. the Palm Beach remark was a nice touch, but as you surely know south Florida went overwhelmingly for Obama despite Lieberman's McCain endorsement. Jews voted Dem in this election in a greater proportion than almost any other election cycle in US history . b, 21b, 21but not Lieberman. he was pro-Iraq war so he endorsed McCain. how could he have been so out of touch with "his" people? I guess he sees himself as a representative of CT (the voters of which re-elected him *after* his Iraq war support) and as heir to the Scoop Jackson Dem legacy -- and not merely as a representative of Jews (as your Palm Beach remark insultingly suggests). I know it's crazy.b, 21b, 21(just to put this whole thing in perspective, the vote among Democratic senators to keep Senator Joe Liebeman as chairman of the Homeland Security Committee was an overwhelming 42 to 13.)
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21b, 21as usual you are talking out of your ass. the Palm Beach remark was a nice touch, but as you surely know south Florida went overwhelmingly for Obama despite Lieberman's McCain endorsement. Jews voted Dem in this election in a greater proportion than almost any other election cycle in US history . b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21if lieberman ran in palm beach for a house seat, he would win. that was my point. why? because old jews live there and would vote for a jew regardless of party or platform. i don't understand your point...is mccain jewish?b, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21b, 21but not Lieberman. he was pro-Iraq war so he endorsed McCain. how could he have been so out of touch with "his" people? I guess he sees himself as a representative of CT (the voters of which re-elected him *after* his Iraq war support) and as heir to the Scoop Jackson Dem legacy -- and not merely as a representative of Jews (as your Palm Beach remark insultingly suggests). I know it's crazy.b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21b, 21well, he lost the dem primary in ct to a complete nobody. so by "his people", i guess you aren't referring to his party for the past 70 years or however long this old terd has been alive. republicans voted for him in the senate race, that's why he won. take a look at who live in connecticut btw, its not ny or new england...a lot more conservative.b, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21(just to put this whole thing in perspective, the vote among Democratic senators to keep Senator Joe Liebeman as chairman of the Homeland Security Committee was an overwhelming 42 to 13.) b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21and what is your point???? that wasn't an affirmation for joe lieberman. dems in the senate hang his picture on their dart boards. wow....
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21b, 21b, 21(just to put this whole thing in perspective, the vote among Democratic senators to keep Senator Joe Liebeman as chairman of the Homeland Security Committee was an overwhelming 42 to 13.) b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21I just heard that Obama called Sen Reid and told him to do what needed to be done to keep Joe The Senator. b, 21b, 21So it does look like Obama wants to surround himself with his enemies.
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21if lieberman ran in palm beach for a house seat, he would win. that was my point. why? because old jews live there and would vote for a jew regardless of party or platform. i don't understand your point...is mccain jewish?b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/f-u.gif" alt="" 21b, 21b, 21You need to shut the F*ck upb, 21b, 21First you come in here and say if you wear a yarmulke you are a good Jew despite your crimes, now this shit. b, 21b, 21Just leave.
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21if lieberman ran in palm beach for a house seat, he would win. that was my point. why? because old jews live there and would vote for a jew regardless of party or platform. i don't understand your point...is mccain jewish?b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/f-u.gif" alt="" 21b, 21b, 21You need to shut the F*ck upb, 21b, 21First you come in here and say if you wear a yarmulke you are a good Jew despite your crimes, now this shit. b, 21b, 21Just leave. b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21no, because he wears a yarmulke and eats bagels and lox every sunday. that's why he will go to heaven, if jews believed in such a thing.b, 21b, 21you sound really heated about this palm beach thing, have you ever been there before??? do you know jews in real life or just the ones you see on seinfeld...cause as rootless has said "you are talking out of your ass" if you don't think lieberman wouldn't carry palm beach.b, 21b, 21b, 21b, 21 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/WHYMUSTICRY.gif" alt="" 21
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21if lieberman ran in palm beach for a house seat, he would win. that was my point. why? because old jews live there and would vote for a jew regardless of party or platform. i don't understand your point...is mccain jewish?b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/f-u.gif" alt="" 21b, 21b, 21You need to shut the F*ck upb, 21b, 21First you come in here and say if you wear a yarmulke you are a good Jew despite your crimes, now this shit. b, 21b, 21Just leave. b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21no, because he wears a yarmulke and eats bagels and lox every sunday. that's why he will go to heaven, if jews believed in such a thing.b, 21b, 21you sound really heated about this palm beach thing, have you ever been there before??? do you know jews in real life or just the ones you see on seinfeld...cause as rootless has said "you are talking out of your ass" if you don't think lieberman wouldn't carry palm beach.b, 21b, 21b, 21b, 21 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/WHYMUSTICRY.gif" alt="" 21 b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21Are you still here?b, 21Why?
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21if lieberman ran in palm beach for a house seat, he would win. that was my point. why? because old jews live there and would vote for a jew regardless of party or platform. i don't understand your point...is mccain jewish?b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/f-u.gif" alt="" 21b, 21b, 21You need to shut the F*ck upb, 21b, 21First you come in here and say if you wear a yarmulke you are a good Jew despite your crimes, now this shit. b, 21b, 21Just leave. b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21no, because he wears a yarmulke and eats bagels and lox every sunday. that's why he will go to heaven, if jews believed in such a thing.b, 21b, 21you sound really heated about this palm beach thing, have you ever been there before??? do you know jews in real life or just the ones you see on seinfeld...cause as rootless has said "you are talking out of your ass" if you don't think lieberman wouldn't carry palm beach.b, 21b, 21b, 21b, 21 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/WHYMUSTICRY.gif" alt="" 21 b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21Are you still here?b, 21Why? b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21b, 21yea, even after you told me to leave....i don't know why that didn't work. i think it's because you're so smart and i keep coming back to read this line:b, 21b, 21"First you come in here and say if you wear a yarmulke you are a good Jew despite your crimes, now this shit."
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21>> KVH.b, 21b, 21and I don't even particularly like Lieberman. b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21THE WAR OF THE ROSESb, 21b, 21KRAMER VS. KRAMERb, 21b, 21HOW SWIFTLY A YOUNG THUG CHANGES AND HIS LOVE REARRANGESb, 21b, 21IT IS ON b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21latte pass faux. KVH and I inexplicably saw eye-to-eye on our preference for Hillary in the Dem primary. it was a brief, shining moment of clear-thinking on KVH's part in a long career of otherwise rambling poasts and flawed legal reasoning. "Even my busted Cartier / is on point twice a day."
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21b, 21b, 21latte pass faux. KVH and I inexplicably saw eye-to-eye on our preference for Hillary in the Dem primary. b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21negative...i voted for obama in the dem primary
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21>> KVH.b, 21b, 21and I don't even particularly like Lieberman. b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21THE WAR OF THE ROSESb, 21b, 21KRAMER VS. KRAMERb, 21b, 21HOW SWIFTLY A YOUNG THUG CHANGES AND HIS LOVE REARRANGESb, 21b, 21IT IS ON b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21latte pass faux. KVH and I inexplicably saw eye-to-eye on our preference for Hillary in the Dem primary. it was a brief, shining moment of clear-thinking on KVH's part in a long career of otherwise rambling poasts and flawed legal reasoning. "Even my busted Cartier / is on point twice a day." b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21More recently I seem to recall the two of you attempting to tag-team on me for not wanting to come to yall's wedding.
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21>> KVH.b, 21b, 21and I don't even particularly like Lieberman. b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21THE WAR OF THE ROSESb, 21b, 21KRAMER VS. KRAMERb, 21b, 21HOW SWIFTLY A YOUNG THUG CHANGES AND HIS LOVE REARRANGESb, 21b, 21IT IS ON b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21latte pass faux. KVH and I inexplicably saw eye-to-eye on our preference for Hillary in the Dem primary. it was a brief, shining moment of clear-thinking on KVH's part in a long career of otherwise rambling poasts and flawed legal reasoning. "Even my busted Cartier / is on point twice a day." b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21More recently I seem to recall the two of you attempting to tag-team on me for not wanting to come to yall's wedding. b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/game.gif" alt="" 21
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21b, 21b, 21latte pass faux. KVH and I inexplicably saw eye-to-eye on our preference for Hillary in the Dem primary. b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21negative...i voted for obama in the dem primary b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21alas, by his own admission KVH's career of rambling poasts and flawed legal reasoning was indeed uninterrupted after all. A+ for consistency anyway.
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21>> KVH.b, 21b, 21and I don't even particularly like Lieberman. b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21THE WAR OF THE ROSESb, 21b, 21KRAMER VS. KRAMERb, 21b, 21HOW SWIFTLY A YOUNG THUG CHANGES AND HIS LOVE REARRANGESb, 21b, 21IT IS ON b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21latte pass faux. KVH and I inexplicably saw eye-to-eye on our preference for Hillary in the Dem primary. it was a brief, shining moment of clear-thinking on KVH's part in a long career of otherwise rambling poasts and flawed legal reasoning. "Even my busted Cartier / is on point twice a day." b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21More recently I seem to recall the two of you attempting to tag-team on me for not wanting to come to yall's wedding. b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/game.gif" alt="" 21 b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21uh oh you've drawn the theory9 endorsement (at least that's what I think that was then again who the hell knows).
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21b, 21b, 21latte pass faux. KVH and I inexplicably saw eye-to-eye on our preference for Hillary in the Dem primary. b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21negative...i voted for obama in the dem primary b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21alas, by his own admission KVH's career of rambling poasts and flawed legal reasoning was indeed uninterrupted after all. A+ for consistency anyway. b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21b, 21^^^^^^^^b, 21b, 21yarmulke is on too tight if he thinks that makes any sense
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