Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21Overall, the greatest R&B artist of our generation wouldn't even be male. It comes down to a three-way battle between Whitney, Mariah and Mary. b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/oof.gif" alt="" 21 for days.b, 21b, 21what happened to this thread? b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21Please. Mariah ain't the new Aretha but you saying she can't sing?
b, 21b, 21 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/oof.gif" alt="" 21 for days.b, 21b, 21what happened to this thread? b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21Please. Mariah ain't the new Aretha but you saying she can't sing? b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21I'm actually a Mariah fan, but she tends to swing over into POP moreso than Mary.b, 21b, 21Even when she presents herself as an "Urban" artist shit comes off mad Becky.b, 21b, 21Mary has yet to have a real artistic "drop-off" like Mariah had w/ her Glitter debacle.b, 21b, 21Whitney is kind of last GEN that carried a little into the next. But she been irrelavant for a minute.
b, 21b, 21 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/oof.gif" alt="" 21 for days.b, 21b, 21what happened to this thread? b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21Please. Mariah ain't the new Aretha but you saying she can't sing? b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21Never said that. I just don't think she belongs anywhere near those other two you mentioned. sure Mariah can sing and has been doing it for a minute, weathered some trends, etc.....but LOTS and LOTS of her output has been embarassing.
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b, 21b, 21Yeah, I was debating this but she was still making hits well into the mid to late '90s, and certainly overlapped with D'Angelo and Mary during that time. b, 21b, 21I think D'Angelo was on his way to becoming one of the most important R&B artists of "the generation" but with only two albums, he's much more like a Nick Drake than Stevie or Marvin.
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21b, 21b, 21Whitney is kind of last GEN that carried a little into the next. b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21Yeah, I was debating this but she was still making hits well into the mid to late '90s, and certainly overlapped with D'Angelo and Mary during that time. b, 21b, 21I think D'Angelo was on his way to becoming one of the most important R&B artists of "the generation" but with only two albums, he's much more like a Nick Drake than Stevie or Marvin. b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21No doubt. Ill even include that Live At The Jazz Cafe,London Album. Pretty much Brown Sugar Live w/ a good cover of EW&F's Cant Hide Love.b, 21b, 21That recent Mariah comeback album from a couple of years ago was a 'return to form', even though she still continues to try to appeal to Becky,Shaniqua,Hockey Mom, and Jamel.b, 21b, 21I always say that a long lasting R&B artist has Quiet Storm staples.b, 21From Aretha to Aayliyah. The big names have slow jams that continue to get played late night after the club bangers/radio hits have fallin out of popularity.b, 21b, 21D'Angelo's Untitled is still played 10 years after the fact.b, 21b, 21If u got Slow Jams youll be Immortal.....IMO.
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21he's much more like a Nick Drakeb, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21Please be serious. b, 21b, 21Despite his minimal output, D had major hits and was one of the more influential artists of his generation. b, 21b, 21Drake was a relative unknown until after his death.
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21he's much more like a Nick Drakeb, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21Please be serious. b, 21b, 21Despite his minimal output, D had major hits and was one of the more influential artists of his generation. b, 21b, 21Drake was a relative unknown until after his death. b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21Ok, fine. How about Jeff Buckley then? img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" 21b, 21b, 21Seriously though, it's hard to come up with a great analogy with D'Angelo - it's not often that artists just disappear at the height of their fame, that early in. A friend suggested the Sex Pistols or Nirvana but frankly, I don't know if D'Angelo's output can really live up to either of those standards.
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21Despite his minimal output, D had major hits and was one of the more influential artists of his generation. b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21Can u name 5 artists that have carried the D'Angelo Torch? b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21Van Hunt and Raheem Devaughn and all those bums that sell records to young phonics and women who are also into incense and that musical tribute to fela kuti.b, 21b, 21I never said it was a positive influence.
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21Despite his minimal output, D had major hits and was one of the more influential artists of his generation. b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21Can u name 5 artists that have carried the D'Angelo Torch? b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21Van Hunt and Raheem Devaughn and all those bums that sell records to young phonics and women who are also into incense and that musical tribute to fela kuti.b, 21b, 21I never said it was a positive influence. b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21b, 21 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/funnypost.gif" alt="" 21
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21he's much more like a Nick Drakeb, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21Please be serious. b, 21b, 21Despite his minimal output, D had major hits and was one of the more influential artists of his generation. b, 21b, 21Drake was a relative unknown until after his death. b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21Ok, fine. How about Jeff Buckley then? img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" 21b, 21b, 21Seriously though, it's hard to come up with a great analogy with D'Angelo - it's not often that artists just disappear at the height of their fame, that early in. A friend suggested the Sex Pistols or Nirvana but frankly, I don't know if D'Angelo's output can really live up to either of those standards. b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21If D'Angelo had gone all the way and ODed, he'd be somewhere in-between the Eillot Smith of Neo-Soul, or the Bradley from Sublime.
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21Overall, the greatest R&B artist singer of our generation wouldn't even be male. It comes down to a three-way battle between Whitney, Mariah and Mary. b, 21b, 21h, 21
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21Overall, the greatest R&B artist singer of our generation wouldn't even be male. It comes down to a three-way battle between Whitney, Mariah and Mary. b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21madonna. unless a new version fo crack comes out, whitney cant re-invent herself.b, 21b, 21b, 21b, 21b, 21b, 21b, 21b, 21my criteria has nothing to do with number of sales. b, 21b, 21 singer/songwriter/producer/plays instruments. not many are really doing it all. b, 21b, 21sure, they sing somebody elses song, and dance like michael.
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21Overall, the greatest R&B artist singer of our generation wouldn't even be male. It comes down to a three-way battle between Whitney, Mariah and Mary. b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21madonna. unless a new version fo crack comes out, whitney cant re-invent herself.b, 21b, 21b, 21my criteria has nothing to do with number of sales. b, 21b, 21singer/songwriter/producer/plays instruments. not many are really doing it all. b, 21b, 21sure, they sing somebody elses song, and dance like michael. b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21Madonna is great because of her SINGING???
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b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21madonna. unless a new version fo crack comes out, whitney cant re-invent herself.b, 21b, 21b, 21my criteria has nothing to do with number of sales. b, 21b, 21singer/songwriter/producer/plays instruments. not many are really doing it all. b, 21b, 21sure, they sing somebody elses song, and dance like michael. b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21Madonna is great because of her SINGING??? b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21 at no point did i say she could sing. we both agree on that.b, 21b, 21and mariah ripperton is great cuz of j.d. ... so on and so on ?b, 21 b, 21 mariah's inclusion would be based on sales. b, 21b, 21b, 21b, 21ill take an lp from 24 years ago produced by jellybean, reggie lucas, and mtume all day.b, 21b, 21 singer /songwriter/musician/producer.
heads need to check for peven everett > singer /songwriter/musician/producer. b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21Yes, but I think he would be better known or respected if he exercised a bit more quality control, or maybe let someone else handle the production (particularly on the "Easy Livin" album - "See You Tonight" needs to be re-recoreded and re-released, in my opinion).
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