That's a good story. Man, having a 75-year-old kid is truly img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/lvl.gif" alt="" /1 -- this woman has surely seen it all.
This is an incredibly moving and momentous event.b,121b,121img src="http://img.coxnewsweb.com/B/08/37/23/image_7723378.jpg"1b,121b,121Easily one of the pictures of the year.b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121But the hate in this country is still in existence. Jesus Christ:b,121b,121/font1
Quote:/font1h,121b,121campasano wrote:b,121After reading the story about Mrs. Jones I come away thinking that the only reason she is voting Obama is that he is black. Nowhere does she say why other than he is black, why she would vote for such an inexperienced man. She does not talk to the issues. Yet if I said I was voting for someone because he/she was white the headlines would read very differently. I would be a bigot. Talk about double standards.b,121b,121h,121
Quote:/font1h,121b,121b,121b,121But the hate in this country is still in existence. Jesus Christ:b,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121campasano wrote:b,121After reading the story about Mrs. Jones I come away thinking that the only reason she is voting Obama is that he is black. Nowhere does she say why other than he is black, why she would vote for such an inexperienced man. She does not talk to the issues. Yet if I said I was voting for someone because he/she was white the headlines would read very differently. I would be a bigot. Talk about double standards.b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1 b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121IMO that's not hate, it's common sense. I understand her excitement to have the possibility to vote for a black candidate coming from her background and personal experiences. But she only seems to be voting for him based on that fact. That would be the same as someone voting for McCain because he or she comes from the same state.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121b,121b,121But the hate in this country is still in existence. Jesus Christ:b,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121campasano wrote:b,121After reading the story about Mrs. Jones I come away thinking that the only reason she is voting Obama is that he is black. Nowhere does she say why other than he is black, why she would vote for such an inexperienced man. She does not talk to the issues. Yet if I said I was voting for someone because he/she was white the headlines would read very differently. I would be a bigot. Talk about double standards.b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1 b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121IMO that's not hate, it's common sense. I understand her excitement to have the possibility to vote for a black candidate coming from her background and personal experiences. But she only seems to be voting for him based on that fact. That would be the same as someone voting for McCain because he or she comes from the same state. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121There's more than enough white people NOT voting for Obama because of his race that I don't mind someone voting for him BECAUSE of his race.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121b,121b,121But the hate in this country is still in existence. Jesus Christ:b,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121campasano wrote:b,121After reading the story about Mrs. Jones I come away thinking that the only reason she is voting Obama is that he is black. Nowhere does she say why other than he is black, why she would vote for such an inexperienced man. She does not talk to the issues. Yet if I said I was voting for someone because he/she was white the headlines would read very differently. I would be a bigot. Talk about double standards.b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1 b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121IMO that's not hate, it's common sense. I understand her excitement to have the possibility to vote for a black candidate coming from her background and personal experiences. But she only seems to be voting for him based on the fact that he's black. That would be the same as someone voting for McCain because he or she comes from the same state. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121I'm not even sure whether I should start with the above equine excretia or not. You never know whether some of the folks on this board are aliases.b,121b,121But to say nothing of the symbolic brilliance of the moment and the foot-forward in equality that it represents, or the fact her mother might have literally been in goddamn chains, this woman has voted for Democrats for the last 70 years. All candidates then were white men with similar viewpoints. Barack Obama is very much a Democrat with like-minded ideals. There is a long-standing pattern of personal-choice-derived election here. Mark this.b,121b,121I really don't know what else to say to you, other than the fact that I sincerely hope that your childish ignorance of the African-American legacy and its necessary implications for modern times is due to your lack of age and not intellectual fortitude.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121b,121b,121But the hate in this country is still in existence. Jesus Christ:b,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121campasano wrote:b,121After reading the story about Mrs. Jones I come away thinking that the only reason she is voting Obama is that he is black. Nowhere does she say why other than he is black, why she would vote for such an inexperienced man. She does not talk to the issues. Yet if I said I was voting for someone because he/she was white the headlines would read very differently. I would be a bigot. Talk about double standards.b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1 b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121IMO that's not hate, it's common sense. I understand her excitement to have the possibility to vote for a black candidate coming from her background and personal experiences. But she only seems to be voting for him based on the fact that he's black. That would be the same as someone voting for McCain because he or she comes from the same state. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121I'm not even sure whether I should start with the above equine excretia or not. You never know whether some of the folks on this board are aliases.b,121b,121But to say nothing of the symbolic brilliance of the moment and the foot-forward in equality that it represents, or the fact her mother might have literally been in goddamn chains, this woman has voted for Democrats for the last 70 years. All candidates then were white men with similar viewpoints. Barack Obama is very much a Democrat with like-minded ideals. There is a long-standing pattern of personal-choice-derived election here. Mark this.b,121b,121I really don't know what else to say to you, other than the fact that I sincerely hope that your childish ignorance of the African-American legacy and its necessary implications for modern times is due to your lack of age and not intellectual fortitude. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121Hey, don't get me wrong. I personally would like nothing more than to see Obama as the future President. And I understand to a certain extent her personal satisfaction to be able to vote for an African-American candidate. I just got the impression they were focusing solely on her ethnic background and not so much her political views.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121b,121b,121There's more than enough white people NOT voting for Obama because of his race that I don't mind someone voting for him BECAUSE of his race. b, 21b, 21h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121Yeah, I get what you're saying. And it's a shame people still think that way. I guess this election will show people's true colors.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121b,121b,121But the hate in this country is still in existence. Jesus Christ:b,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121campasano wrote:b,121After reading the story about Mrs. Jones I come away thinking that the only reason she is voting Obama is that he is black. Nowhere does she say why other than he is black, why she would vote for such an inexperienced man. She does not talk to the issues. Yet if I said I was voting for someone because he/she was white the headlines would read very differently. I would be a bigot. Talk about double standards.b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1 b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121IMO that's not hate, it's common sense. I understand her excitement to have the possibility to vote for a black candidate coming from her background and personal experiences. But she only seems to be voting for him based on the fact that he's black. That would be the same as someone voting for McCain because he or she comes from the same state. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121I'm not even sure whether I should start with the above equine excretia or not. You never know whether some of the folks on this board are aliases.b,121b,121But to say nothing of the symbolic brilliance of the moment and the foot-forward in equality that it represents, or the fact her mother might have literally been in goddamn chains, this woman has voted for Democrats for the last 70 years. All candidates then were white men with similar viewpoints. Barack Obama is very much a Democrat with like-minded ideals. There is a long-standing pattern of personal-choice-derived election here. Mark this.b,121b,121I really don't know what else to say to you, other than the fact that I sincerely hope that your childish ignorance of the African-American legacy and its necessary implications for modern times is due to your lack of age and not intellectual fortitude. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121Hey, don't get me wrong. I personally would like nothing more than to see Obama as the future President. And I understand to a certain extent her personal satisfaction to be able to vote for an African-American candidate. I just got the impression they were focusing solely on her ethnic background and not so much her political views. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121Well, if by /font1
Quote:/font1h,121b,121But she only seems to be voting for him based on the fact that he's black.b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1 you meant /font1
Quote:/font1h,121b,121But she is unfortunately written up in this paper to make it seem as if she's [/b] only voting for him based on the fact that he's black.b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1, then you really need to structure your sentences more efficiently. It seemed as if your were actually agreeing with the ill-experienced quotee. Just saying.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121I just got the impression they were focusing solely on her ethnic background and not so much her political views. b, 21b, 21h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121For the record, ethnicity is not the same as race.
Dude, this story is quite simple: the daughter of a slave is going to get to vote for a Black man. Symbolically, that's what it's about. b, 21b, 21Whether she supports Obama's policy positions is immaterial to the story.b,121b,121And no, it's not a double-standard. You don't hear stories about the daughters of slave-owners voting for the White candidate. You know why? Because there's nothing symbolically meaningful about the descendants of those in power voting to put their own in positions of power.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121O-dub, do you get these kinds of arguments from your students sometimes? b, 21b, 21h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121Not really. The worst thing I ever got was something indignantly complaining "in order to get a job in Orange County, you have to learn Spanish."
Quote:/font1h,121b,121Dude, this story is quite simple: the daughter of a slave is going to get to vote for a Black man. Symbolically, that's what it's about. b, 21b, 21Whether she supports Obama's policy positions is immaterial to the story.b,121b,121And no, it's not a double-standard. You don't hear stories about the daughters of slave-owners voting for the White candidate. You know why? Because there's nothing symbolically meaningful about the descendants of those in power voting to put their own in positions of power. b, 21b, 21h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121Hold on. Hold on. Let's keep this singularly in the context of the original comment I quoted:b,121b,121/font1
Quote:/font1h,121b,121campasano wrote:b,121After reading the story about Mrs. Jones I come away thinking that the only reason she is voting Obama is that he is black. Nowhere does she say why other than he is black, why she would vote for such an inexperienced man. She does not talk to the issues. Yet if I said I was voting for someone because he/she was white the headlines would read very differently. I would be a bigot. Talk about double standards.b,121b, 21h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121I'm obviously upset with this response. I think that most of us would be (although I'd downgrade my initial "hate" comment to a mere "upsettingly and deeply ignorant"). I thought that this comment was being seconded, as if a Strutter agreed that the woman in question needed to "talk to the issues" or was a "bigot" that employed a "double standard" merely by voting for Obama. My counter in denoting the woman's steady voting record was meant for anyone who believed that the woman was a "bigot" that put her race before her common sense. That, and that alone, was what I was upset about. As if, as you note, that should even be the issue.b,121b,121Please, let's not misunderstand ourselves.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121Luck, I wasn't responding to you. I was responding the new guy. b, 21b, 21h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121Oh. Thank God.b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121So we're still going out?
Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121O-dub, do you get these kinds of arguments from your students sometimes? b, 21b, 21h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121Not really. The worst thing I ever got was something indignantly complaining "in order to get a job in Orange County, you have to learn Spanish." b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121Got it lucky. I never stop hearing about how hard it is for white stoners to get jobs in Santa Cruz because "all the employers think hiring minorities is cool". b, 21b, 21img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /1
Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121O-dub, do you get these kinds of arguments from your students sometimes? b, 21b, 21h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121Not really. The worst thing I ever got was something indignantly complaining "in order to get a job in Orange County, you have to learn Spanish." b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121Got it lucky. I never stop hearing about how hard it is for white stoners to get jobs in Santa Cruz because "all the employers think hiring minorities is cool". b, 21b, 21img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /1 b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121Yeah - I try to turn these things into "teaching moments" whenever possible but inside, I'm sighing deeply.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121Dude, this story is quite simple: the daughter of a slave is going to get to vote for a Black man. Symbolically, that's what it's about. b, 21b, 21Whether she supports Obama's policy positions is immaterial to the story.b,121b,121And no, it's not a double-standard. You don't hear stories about the daughters of slave-owners voting for the White candidate. You know why? Because there's nothing symbolically meaningful about the descendants of those in power voting to put their own in positions of power. b, 21b, 21h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121Not one word wasted.b,121b,121You have an amazing ability to cut through the fog and speak undiluted real.b,121b,121Thank you Mr. Wang.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121b,121b,121But the hate in this country is still in existence. Jesus Christ:b,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121campasano wrote:b,121After reading the story about Mrs. Jones I come away thinking that the only reason she is voting Obama is that he is black. Nowhere does she say why other than he is black, why she would vote for such an inexperienced man. She does not talk to the issues. Yet if I said I was voting for someone because he/she was white the headlines would read very differently. I would be a bigot. Talk about double standards.b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1 b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121IMO that's not hate, it's common sense. I understand her excitement to have the possibility to vote for a black candidate coming from her background and personal experiences. But she only seems to be voting for him based on the fact that he's black. That would be the same as someone voting for McCain because he or she comes from the same state. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121I'm not even sure whether I should start with the above equine excretia or not. You never know whether some of the folks on this board are aliases.b,121b,121But to say nothing of the symbolic brilliance of the moment and the foot-forward in equality that it represents, or the fact her mother might have literally been in goddamn chains, this woman has voted for Democrats for the last 70 years. All candidates then were white men with similar viewpoints. Barack Obama is very much a Democrat with like-minded ideals. There is a long-standing pattern of personal-choice-derived election here. Mark this.b,121b,121I really don't know what else to say to you, other than the fact that I sincerely hope that your childish ignorance of the African-American legacy and its necessary implications for modern times is due to your lack of age and not intellectual fortitude. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121Hey, don't get me wrong. I personally would like nothing more than to see Obama as the future President. And I understand to a certain extent her personal satisfaction to be able to vote for an African-American candidate. I just got the impression they were focusing solely on her ethnic background and not so much her political views. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121I believe her ethnic background is American.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121b, 21b, 21There's more than enough white people NOT voting for Obama because of his race that I don't mind someone voting for him BECAUSE of his race. b, 21b, 21h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121Yeah, I get what you're saying. And it's a shame people still think that way. I guess this election will show people's true colors. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121Or this thread showing your true colors?
font class="post"1b,121b,121I love family picture walls. You know someone is cringing every time they come over and see their 80s self. b, 21b, 21"Cmon Grandma, that picture of me is so old - I look terrible. Why don't you put a new picture up - like the one from last summer's picnic? "b, 21b, 21"No. Your hair looks so pretty and you're wearing that yellow sweater I gave you for your birthday. You were still a nice girl."b, 21b, 21"Grandma!"b, 21b, 21"Why don't you wear your hair like that anymore? And where is that sweater?"
Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121b,121b,121But the hate in this country is still in existence. Jesus Christ:b,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121campasano wrote:b,121After reading the story about Mrs. Jones I come away thinking that the only reason she is voting Obama is that he is black. Nowhere does she say why other than he is black, why she would vote for such an inexperienced man. She does not talk to the issues. Yet if I said I was voting for someone because he/she was white the headlines would read very differently. I would be a bigot. Talk about double standards.b, 21b, 21h,121
font class="post"1 b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121IMO that's not hate, it's common sense. I understand her excitement to have the possibility to vote for a black candidate coming from her background and personal experiences. But she only seems to be voting for him based on that fact. That would be the same as someone voting for McCain because he or she comes from the same state. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121Well bless your soul, you really are an idiot arent you?b,121b,121You are all asshurt because a 109 year old daughter of a slave doesn't give you enough detailed policy information about how she chose her candidate?
Quote:/font1h,121b,121b,121b,121You are all asshurt because a 109 year old daughter of a slave doesn't give you enough detailed policy information about how she chose her candidate? b, 21b, 21h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121Basically. Taking poptartiness to new levels.
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