Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121 It's the late 60s thru early 80s where gospel echoes what's happening in popular music rather than the other way around. b, 21b, 21h,121
font class="post"1b,121b, 21I'd put it right up to today, thanks to Kirk Franklin and quite a few "gospel rap" acts going around. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b, 21don't forget MC Sweet for the Rapper's Delight stylings img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headz.gif" alt="" /1b, 21b, 21i understand what you both are saying about gospel. i'm saying something slightly different (and a lot less eloquently). we can agree to disagree on the point. b, 21b, 21instead of clowning, you might discuss. if i've learned only one thing about this board is that there have always been people who are deep into what they do. it is easy to underestimate people on here. i always try to stay humble. i just ask for the same sentiment.b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b, 21Despite what someone else said about me on this thread, it definitely was not my intent to "clown" or "son" anyone here (and I apologize if it came off that way). I can only agree with the last two sentences of what you wrote above.
eh, he's always had thoughtful, informative answers to any question I've asked him and managed to do so without seeming condescending or full of himself.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121 It's the late 60s thru early 80s where gospel echoes what's happening in popular music rather than the other way around. b, 21b, 21h,121
font class="post"1b,121b, 21I'd put it right up to today, thanks to Kirk Franklin and quite a few "gospel rap" acts going around. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b, 21don't forget MC Sweet for the Rapper's Delight stylings img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headz.gif" alt="" /1b, 21b, 21i understand what you both are saying about gospel. i'm saying something slightly different (and a lot less eloquently). we can agree to disagree on the point. b, 21b, 21instead of clowning, you might discuss. if i've learned only one thing about this board is that there have always been people who are deep into what they do. it is easy to underestimate people on here. i always try to stay humble. i just ask for the same sentiment.b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b, 21Despite what someone else said about me on this thread, it definitely was not my intent to "clown" or "son" anyone here (and I apologize if it came off that way). I can only agree with the last two sentences of what you wrote above. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b, 21i think we all said our piece.b,121b, 21this was the seeming clowning i refer to in this thread. b, 21b, 21/font1
font class="post"1b,121b, 21it really is no big deal. i was just trying interject my opinion. it is informed by talking to old black gospel musicians and fans. no one's opinion is fact. not mine and not yours.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121without seeming condescending or full of himself. b, 21b, 21h,121
font class="post"1b,121b, 21really?b,121b, 21re-read his reponse to kalab,121b, 21'last word' nitpicking of the most uptight sortb,121b, 21but since we're talking about kala here I guess we shouldn't fault him too much lol
Quote:/font1h,121b,121why be an instigating asshole? b, 21b, 21h,121
font class="post"1b,121b, 21wipe the crusted jizz out of your eyes & check the transcript, I was agreeing with you fuckholeb, 21b, 21 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/raerface.gif" alt="" /1
Quote:/font1h,121b,121did I hurt your feelings?b,121b, 21I'm sorryb,121b, 21there there kala, don't cryb,121b, 21 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/530.gif" alt="" /1 b, 21b, 21h,121
font class="post"1b,121b, 21i thought you were out ...busy molesting paperboysb,121b, 21get a grip short eyesb, 21and a new hobby besides being a pedophile ok fucky?
Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121a lot of black gospel usually mirrors what's going on in contemporary black music.b,121b, 21h,121
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Quote:/font1h,121b,121 i think ray charles and later al green were major reasons this happened, otherwise it is not a natural crossover. it actually should surprise you. b, 21b, 21h,121
font class="post"1b,121b, 21no, it doesnt surprise me. gospel folks are out in the world like everyone else, they dont live in a vacuum. if, in 1968, the violinaires decided to deliver the word with a boogaloo beat, it shouldnt be a shock. more like a logical extension. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b, 21Even outside of black music you can see it in general christian music from the 60s and 70s. PYHITH is an obvious attempt by bible bashers to get some street cred, as is the rocked up version of the Lords Prayer etc. You can see it to this day with contemporary christian music biting all genres and adding biblical lyrics instead. They even got their own video clip show here in Aust. on Sunday mornings and half these clips and songs are made to be disguised or not come off as obvious christian songs.... b,121b, 21and andre crouch is still the king! b,121b, 21 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/liljohn.gif" alt="" /1
The Clark Sisters are a group who have been preforming since the early 70s, or maybe even the late 60s. Luck? P33?b, 21b, 21Their music is always instantly recognizable as gospel, yet the pop appeal is undeniable. In the 80s they had some R&B crossover success, and in the 90s had some dance club success with remixes by people like Kenny Dope. b, 21b, 21Still they remain a true to God gospel group. b, 21b, 21I love their music. b, 21b, 21Saw them in the mid 80s playing a White church way north or Seattle, Lake City or some place like that.
On a side note...anyone got a link download that "Holy Shit" mixtape that came out last year I think.... the one where they use all the christian records with dope samples on them....
Quote:/font1h,121b,121The Clark Sisters are a group who have been preforming since the early 70s, or maybe even the late 60s. Luck? P33?b,121b, 21Their music is always instantly recognizable as gospel, yet the pop appeal is undeniable. In the 80s they had some R&B crossover success, and in the 90s had some dance club success with remixes by people like Kenny Dope. b,121b, 21Still they remain a true to God gospel group. b,121b, 21I love their music. b,121b, 21Saw them in the mid 80s playing a White church way north or Seattle, Lake City or some place like that. b,121b, 21h,121
font class="post"1b,121b, 21I'm not too familiar with their 70s work on Bilesse, et al (I know more from Bill Moss and Mattie Moss Clark), but they were occasionally on the local 80s Christian radio that was everpresent in the house I grew up in. Their later crossover style is just not my thing. No hate; just not my bag. I'd like to hear their LPs on their uncle Bill's label.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121On a side note...anyone got a link download that "Holy Shit" mixtape that came out last year I think.... the one where they use all the christian records with dope samples on them.... b, 21b, 21h,121
font class="post"1b,121b, 21By DJ Format and Mr. Thing? Look here/a1. Great mix.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121On a side note...anyone got a link download that "Holy Shit" mixtape that came out last year I think.... the one where they use all the christian records with dope samples on them.... b, 21b, 21h,121
Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121The Clark Sisters are a group who have been preforming since the early 70s, or maybe even the late 60s. Luck? P33?b,121b, 21Their music is always instantly recognizable as gospel, yet the pop appeal is undeniable. In the 80s they had some R&B crossover success, and in the 90s had some dance club success with remixes by people like Kenny Dope. b,121b, 21Still they remain a true to God gospel group. b,121b,121I love their music. b,121b, 21Saw them in the mid 80s playing a White church way north or Seattle, Lake City or some place like that. b,121b, 21h,121
font class="post"1b,121b, 21I'm not too familiar with their 70s work on Bilesse, et al (I know more from Bill Moss and Mattie Moss Clark), but they were occasionally on the local 80s Christian radio that was everpresent in the house I grew up in. Their later crossover style is just not my thing. No hate; just not my bag. I'd like to hear their LPs on their uncle Bill's label. b,121b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b, 21I knew that Mattie was their mom and she often records with them. b,121b,121I did not know they were related to Bill. b,121b,121I love their harmonies and songs.
the Clark Sisters only have one lp on Bilesse & it's really hard to find - I've only seen it once - it has a heavy lofi 70s sound pretty different than their later polished 'hit' records on Sound of Gospel(SOG) / Elektra etc
Quote:/font1h,121b,121the Clark Sisters only have one lp on Bilesse & it's really hard to find - I've only seen it once - it has a heavy lofi 70s sound pretty different than their later polished 'hit' records on Sound of Gospel(SOG) / Elektra etc b,121b, 21h,121
font class="post"1b,121b, 21'Jesus Has a lot to Give' is the one i have. really good, not raw at all, but heavy yes. it has a break too - i've had it for awhile, never knew it was that rare. it came in the second 'watershed' moment in my gospel collecting when i bought the "gospel soul" dj of San Diego's record collection a few years ago. every record was stamped with his name and there was so much sick soul gospel.
actually after checking into it I guess there's 2 on Bilesse - here's a picture of the second one off popsike:b,121b, 21img src="http://www.popsike.com/pix/20070818/140149374478.jpg"1b,121b, 21sharlow had it, I remember him saying he didn't like it (despite the musical quality) because he didn't agree with the message - too much 'sinner you're going to hell' stuff I guess - personally I won't go that far, but the religious content of specific gospel tunes does feature a tiny bit in whether I like something or not - still, I'd almost rather hear compelling fire & brimstone shit than inoffensive 'god is love' blandness
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