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another retarded bidding pattern on the bay

skelskel You can't cheat karma 5,033 Posts
edited October 2008 in Strut Central
a href="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FLOWERS-For-Real-NORTHERN-45-MODERN-SOUL-RARE-ORIG-7_W0QQitemZ180297840793QQihZ008QQcategoryZ306QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em122" target="_blank"1plaese to 'splain the bidders' mentality b,121b,121Jeez, there's still 5+ days to go...b,121b,121This record is not rare per se, it is scarce because it is locked up in collections. It has been so well known for so long I doubt there exists a copy still to be found in the wild.b,121It is available on many comps and boots.b,121IMHO there are better records in the same genre for 5 - 50% of Flowers' value; Daybreak 'Everything Man' and We The People 'Making My Daydream Real' spring to mind.b,121b,121People still froth at the mouth for this record.b,121b,121I definitely don't believe Jesse employs shill bidders.b,121b,121The first two bidders can be explained as chancers either looking to make a big gain or wanting to see the final price so they can price their collection.b,121b,121Can't explain the others. Seem like fools. But even relative newbies with 25 or 79 bips should know better than this.b,121b,121Maybe they got more money than sense.

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  • pcmrpcmr 5,591 Posts
    thats intense
  • JimsterJimster Cruffiton.etsy.com 6,960 Posts
    I am having some mates over for bean-dip on Sardy neet, like.b,121b,121I cannae fathom it though. I know the tune, it's alright, but life and money are too short for this nonsense.
  • JuniorJunior 4,853 Posts
    I love that track to pieces but I can't even begin to get my head around the price that's currently at. Recession = people investing their money in snappable vinyl?
  • skelskel You can't cheat karma 5,033 Posts
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    b,121I love that track to pieces but I can't even begin to get my head around the price that's currently at. Recession = people investing their money in snappable vinyl?
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121I can easily understand people paying big money for records they cannot live without. Even well over the odds.b,121b,121What I cannot understand is the thought process that leads a dude to bid up a piece with 5+ days to go. Ego trip? Drunken bidding? Mummy's or Daddy's credit card?
  • kalakala 3,362 Posts
    b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1 Mummy's or Daddy's credit card? b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121TEH REYDUNDO SYNDROME
  • breaxjunkiebreaxjunkie 97 Posts
    I got We The People's 45 for cheap!b,121b,121eGay sometimes generate mass madness...b,121b,121But i Have a theory...b,121b,1211)as you guys foretold flowers is on many comps and boots.b,121If by chance some famous dj spinned it or comped recently here it goes up with the price again.b,121b,1212)some people have to much money to spend but they shouldn't drunk-bid 'cause they often make shit records reach gold prices.b,121b,1213)I realized that most of the auction where people bid with 1000$ when there's still 5 days to go are dodgy ones.b,121one of the bidders is probably a seller's pal raising the price for him.b,121b,121I think i could carry on more and more...b,121We all know this won't stop... The Bay...
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    font class="post"1 Mummy's or Daddy's credit card? b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121TEH REYDUNDO SYNDROME b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121hahahaha!
  • skelskel You can't cheat karma 5,033 Posts
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    b,121I got We The People's 45 for cheap!
    WE ALL DID/b1b,121b,121eGay sometimes generate mass madness...b,121b,121But i Have a theory...b,121b,1211)as you guys foretold flowers is on many comps and boots. I TOTALLY DENY HAVING BEEN INVOLVED IN A WHITE LABEL PLAIN SLEEVE BOOT MANY YEARS AGO ON THIS RECORD /b1b,121If by chance some famous dj spinned it or comped recently here it goes up with the price again. NO WAY/b1b,121b,1212)some people have to much money to spend but they shouldn't drunk-bid 'cause they often make shit records reach gold prices. YOU DON'T SAY. BEER + EBAY = BUY A THOUSAND DOLLAR ROBOT LAWNMOWER /b1b,121b,1213)I realized that most of the auction where people bid with 1000$ when there's still 5 days to go are dodgy ones.b,121one of the bidders is probably a seller's pal raising the price for him.b,121 REFUSE TO BELIEVE THE ONE J.VAILLIN WOULD DO THIS/b1b,121b,121I think i could carry on more and more...b,121We all know this won't stop... The Bay... b,121b,121h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121btw, whose alias are you?
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121If they were rich, they'd have this piece by now through a private deal.b,121If they were merely quite well off, they'd have more than a measly 79 and 25 stars.b,121b,121 img src="http://lizrevision.com/wp-content/uploads/royal-fail.jpg"1
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    b,121They aren't poor, and now you know...
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    b,121If they were rich, they'd have this piece by now through a private deal.
    b,121If they were merely quite well off, they'd have more than a measly 79 and 25 stars.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121Those are a couple of strange assumptions.
  • skelskel You can't cheat karma 5,033 Posts
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    b,121They aren't poor, and now you know...
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    b,121If they were rich, they'd have this piece by now through a private deal.
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    b,121Those are a couple of strange assumptions.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121Why strange?b,121Well-off dudes with a record jones be unable to resist dipping into the bay on the weekly, if not daily.b,121And rich dudes would have known about this record, it's been slobbered over since the 80s and was $200 bucks back then. And would have had it since then, from a list, through contacts, whatever.b,121b,121So, any idea on the ludicrous bidding for this item?
  • Deep_SangDeep_Sang 1,081 Posts
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    b,121If they were rich, they'd have this piece by now through a private deal.
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    b,121Why strange?
    b,121Well-off dudes with a record jones be unable to resist dipping into the bay on the weekly, if not daily.
    b,121And rich dudes would have known about this record, it's been slobbered over since the 80s and was $200 bucks back then. And would have had it since then, from a list, through contacts, whatever.
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    b,121So, any idea on the ludicrous bidding for this item?
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121Strange because they both presuppose that the person bidding on this record has been collecting and wanted this record for a long time I guess. There are any number of reasons why someone might not have a copy and want one now, whatever the price. b,121b,121As for this auction... this kinda stuff happens all the time. I can't explain the actions of collectros with g's to blow on records cause I'm not one of them.
  • drewnicedrewnice 5,465 Posts
    I'd be willing to sell the boot 12" for half of the final price.b,121b,121Cm'on...that's a good deal...right??
  • skelskel You can't cheat karma 5,033 Posts
    Here's what's counter-productive about the bidders' actions:b,121b,1211) pushing it to a high price early on alerts all those 'investor' types who search in 'all records' and sort by 'highest price first'. Suddenly you have more competition than is healthy.b,121b,1212) let's assume I really want this record, and the price near the end is a few hundred bucks. I'm ready with the bid, I've checked popsike, I reckon $1600 will do it. In this situation, if $2075 dude waits til the last minute, he stands a good chance of getting the record.b,121By ramping it high now, I have a 5 day window to look at my expedits, decide I can live without various bits and I flog them, raising an extra $1000.b,121Now my last minute bid can be $2600. And I trump 79 star dude, who has revealed his hand by jumping up in few hundred buck stages.b,121b,121Jesse Vallin, I salute you sir.
  • ariel_calmerariel_calmer 3,762 Posts
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    b,121thats intense
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121Being a repo man is always intense.
  • selperfugeselperfuge 1,165 Posts
    i couldn't fine ebayseinfeldwhatsthedeal.jpg so i will poast this collectro img insteadb,121b,121img src="http://pixftw.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/charredstarwars3sc.jpg"1
  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
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    b,121Here's what's counter-productive about the bidders' actions:
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    b,1211) pushing it to a high price early on alerts all those 'investor' types who search in 'all records' and sort by 'highest price first'. Suddenly you have more competition than is healthy.
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    b,1212) let's assume I really want this record, and the price near the end is a few hundred bucks. I'm ready with the bid, I've checked popsike, I reckon $1600 will do it. In this situation, if $2075 dude waits til the last minute, he stands a good chance of getting the record.
    b,121By ramping it high now, I have a 5 day window to look at my expedits, decide I can live without various bits and I flog them, raising an extra $1000.
    b,121Now my last minute bid can be $2600. And I trump 79 star dude, who has revealed his hand by jumping up in few hundred buck stages.
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    b,121Jesse Vallin, I salute you sir.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121Or $2075 dude scares off everyone else from making a play. b,121b,121Look: I'm as befuddled by bidding psychology as you are but if it's illogical, well, it's illogical.
  • skelskel You can't cheat karma 5,033 Posts
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    b,1211) pushing it to a high price early on alerts all those 'investor' types who search in 'all records' and sort by 'highest price first'. Suddenly you have more competition than is healthy.
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    b,1212) let's assume I really want this record, and the price near the end is a few hundred bucks. I'm ready with the bid, I've checked popsike, I reckon $1600 will do it. In this situation, if $2075 dude waits til the last minute, he stands a good chance of getting the record.
    b,121By ramping it high now, I have a 5 day window to look at my expedits, decide I can live without various bits and I flog them, raising an extra $1000.
    b,121Now my last minute bid can be $2600. And I trump 79 star dude, who has revealed his hand by jumping up in few hundred buck stages.
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    b,121Jesse Vallin, I salute you sir.
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    b,121Or $2075 dude scares off everyone else from making a play.
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    b,121Look: I'm as befuddled by bidding psychology as you are but if it's illogical, well, it's illogical.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121Manny/Spanky, I bow to your good judgement and am prepared to call off the search for a viable, logical answer.b,121b,121Sometimes the truth is not out thereb,121b,121 img src="http://web.sau.edu/chowoo/truth.jpg"1
  • ReynaldoReynaldo 6,054 Posts
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    b,121If they were rich, they'd have this piece by now through a private deal.
    b,121If they were merely quite well off, they'd have more than a measly 79 and 25 stars.
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    font class="post"1b,121Strawman. I just said they weren't poor, which frees them to bid as they do.
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