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  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121Does this make Detroit Better? b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121Stat-wise, yes...hunger for a championship this year, yes...b,121b,121b,121A good bit of analysis from a reader of The Detroit Free Pressb,121b,121i1You people that are criticizing Joe D deserve the label "Stupid fans". Here's a bit of info for you: Rasheed and Iverson's contracts are off the books at the end of this season. That means $35 million in cap space for the Piston's to use to snag a primo free agent or two. On top of that, it allows Amir, Maxiell and Hermann to get more playing time. They're all younger and more athletic than McDyess. Finally, Iverson is a much better player than Billups and Iverson's only a year older. The big picture is that Joe D just struck the lottery from a cap space perspective. Remember, not only does this allow the Piston's to pursue stud FA's, it also allows Joe to sign Stuckey to a nice extension.[/i] b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121I like the trade from all perspectives--including AI's.
  • drewnicedrewnice 5,465 Posts
    And the list of Free Agents available in 2010 includes:b,121b,121LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh, Amare Stoudemire, Ray Allen, Tyson Chandler, Manu Ginobili, Richard Jefferson, Joe Johnson, Tracy McGrady, Yao Ming, Steve Nash, Dirk Nowitzki and Michael Reddb,121b, 21a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=FreeAgents-09-10" target="_blank"1http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?page=FreeAgents-09-10/a1
  • mylatencymylatency 10,475 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121the suns looked like shit.b,121b,121porter not coaching to players abilities.b,121b,121shaq old and fat and slow.b,121b,121they're done. b,121b,121h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121b,1212nd game into the season and you're writing them off [Email]G@b*????[/Email] I think they can be something great if they get the sets down and play some better D if Lopez stays outta foul trouble. Dude, they came back quite a bit in the 4th quarter, they were only like 5 down at one point right??? b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121I ll give it to ML, u still hang on to the SUNS doin something when it obvious theyre on the downslide.b,121b,121Do u actually think theyre a better team than last year? b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121Yes, very much so. Last year D'antoni played 7-8 players all year and we did not have Lopez, Dragic, Barnes, etc. The Suns made it to the Western Conf playoffs but didn't have enough to beat the Spurs. b, 21b, 21At the start of the season, the Suns have proved they can beat the Spurs, altho yes Manu was out. Regardless, if Lopez and Dragic can learn to play well off the bench, starting Barnes will keep Hill healthy and the Suns have a chance to become a kind of spurs/pistons type team. Defensively minded but also able to run the break and carry on the 7 seconds or less legacy. Heck, I'm just glad Porter is willing to play 10 players. Depth is key. b, 21b, 21Also, the win against Portland proved the Suns can still be the Suns 2005-2007 Suns when needed.
  • yuichiyuichi Urban sprawl 11,332 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121Finally, Iverson is a much better player than Billupsb, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1 b,121b,121Don't believe this bullshit.b,121b,121Denver is gonna be better (like Batmon said) if they can slow down the tempo a bit and play some good old half-court offense. b, 21b, 21Detroit = 60% questionable 30% mediocre 10% East champs.
  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121the suns looked like shit.b,121b,121porter not coaching to players abilities.b,121b,121shaq old and fat and slow.b,121b,121they're done. b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b, 21b, 21b,1212nd game into the season and you're writing them off [Email]G@b*????[/Email] I think they can be something great if they get the sets down and play some better D if Lopez stays outta foul trouble. Dude, they came back quite a bit in the 4th quarter, they were only like 5 down at one point right??? b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b, 21b, 21I ll give it to ML, u still hang on to the SUNS doin something when it obvious theyre on the downslide.b,121b,121Do u actually think theyre a better team than last year? b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b, 21b, 21b, 21Yes, very much so. Last year D'antoni played 7-8 players all year and we did not have Lopez, Dragic, Barnes, etc. The Suns made it to the Western Conf playoffs but didn't have enough to beat the Spurs. b, 21b, 21At the start of the season, the Suns have proved they can beat the Spurs, altho yes Manu was out. Regardless, if Lopez and Dragic can learn to play well off the bench, starting Barnes will keep Hill healthy and the Suns have a chance to become a kind of spurs/pistons type team. Defensively minded but also able to run the break and carry on the 7 seconds or less legacy. Heck, I'm just glad Porter is willing to play 10 players. Depth is key. b, 21b, 21Also, the win against Portland proved the Suns can still be the Suns 2005-2007 Suns when needed. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b, 21b, 21So what your really sayin is that The Phoenix Suns are going to get past the first round the playoffs?
  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121 /font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121Finally, Iverson is a much better player than Billupsb, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1 b,121b,121Don't believe this bullshit.b,121b,121Denver is gonna be better (like Batmon said) if they can slow down the tempo a bit and play some good old half-court offense. b, 21b, 21Detroit = 60% questionable 30% mediocre 10% East champs. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b, 21b, 21Iverson Vs Billups is really a moot point.b,121b,121Chauncey was incredible for that team. Iverson isnt a true point so Denver was using Atkins,Carter and Blake to facilitate.b,121b,121Billups will "fit" better as a more traditional point in Denver, but I dont see how Iverson/Stuckey/Hamilton triad works in Detroit.
  • mylatencymylatency 10,475 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121b, 21So what your really sayin is that The Phoenix Suns are going to get past the first round the playoffs? b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b, 21b, 21b,121I really, really hope so. b,121Phx vs Lakers pacific division finals like the gold old days!!!!
  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121b, 21So what your really sayin is that The Phoenix Suns are going to get past the first round the playoffs? b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b, 21b, 21b,121I really, really hope so. b,121Phx vs Lakers pacific division finals like the gold old days!!!! b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b, 21b, 21Nah dogs. If you said theyre better then there is no "hope" tawk.b, 21b, 21U gotta stand by ur statement.
  • mylatencymylatency 10,475 Posts
    Tehy are better and I really hope they win the Western Conference. I believe Shaq-Fu will hack a Bynum and STAT will crush Gasol. The end.
  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121Tehy are better and I really hope they win the Western Conference. I believe Shaq-Fu will hack a Bynum and STAT will crush Gasol. The end. b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b, 21 WILL
  • drewnicedrewnice 5,465 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121 /font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121Finally, Iverson is a much better player than Billupsb, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1 b,121b,121Don't believe this bullshit.b,121b,121Denver is gonna be better (like Batmon said) if they can slow down the tempo a bit and play some good old half-court offense. b, 21b, 21Detroit = 60% questionable 30% mediocre 10% East champs. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b, 21b, 21Iverson Vs Billups is really a moot point.b,121b,121Chauncey was incredible for that team. Iverson isnt a true point so Denver was using Atkins,Carter and Blake to facilitate.b,121b,121Billups will "fit" better as a more traditional point in Denver, but I dont see how Iverson/Stuckey/Hamilton triad works in Detroit. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b, 21b, 21Yeah, that will take some time to figure out. b, 21b, 21Iverson should be at point long enough for Stuckey to take over later in the season. b, 21b, 21The other big question then is how comfortable will Rip be coming off the bench?b,121b,121Damn, that doesn't even [i]sound/i1 right.b,121b,121Testament to depth.
  • mylatencymylatency 10,475 Posts
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  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121 /font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121Finally, Iverson is a much better player than Billupsb, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1 b,121b,121Don't believe this bullshit.b,121b,121Denver is gonna be better (like Batmon said) if they can slow down the tempo a bit and play some good old half-court offense. b, 21b, 21Detroit = 60% questionable 30% mediocre 10% East champs. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b, 21b, 21Iverson Vs Billups is really a moot point.b,121b,121Chauncey was incredible for that team. Iverson isnt a true point so Denver was using Atkins,Carter and Blake to facilitate.b,121b,121Billups will "fit" better as a more traditional point in Denver, but I dont see how Iverson/Stuckey/Hamilton triad works in Detroit. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b, 21b, 21Yeah, that will take some time to figure out. b, 21b, 21Iverson should be at point long enough for Stuckey to take over later in the season. b, 21b, 21The other big question then is how comfortable will Rip be coming off the bench?b,121b,121Damn, that doesn't even [i]sound/i1 right.b,121b,121Testament to depth. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b, 21b, 21ESPN was sayin - b, 21b, 21Stuckey is ready to start.b,121b,121A.I. at the SG w/ Hamilton off the bench.b,121b,121 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/oof.gif" alt="" 21
  • yuichiyuichi Urban sprawl 11,332 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121Tehy are better and I really hope they win the Western Conference. I believe Shaq-Fu will hack a Bynum and STAT will crush Gasol. The end. b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121 Delusions of Golden Era Sactown
  • mylatencymylatency 10,475 Posts
    Haha! We'll see when they face the Lakers on the 20th.
  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121Haha! We'll see when they face the Lakers on the 20th. b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121........its just about to appear......b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121......Keep pushing........PUSH......PUSH.......b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121I see the head.......................b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121Cmon!Push.............YEAH!!!!!....PUSH........b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121Here we GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.......................b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121THE REGULAR SEASON DONT MEAN SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • yuichiyuichi Urban sprawl 11,332 Posts
    BRING YOUR BIGGEST GUNS TO THE WAR.b, 21 img src="http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/multimedia/photo_gallery/0810/bynumfeature_gallery/images/bynum2.jpg"1
  • yuichiyuichi Urban sprawl 11,332 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121Haha! We'll see when they face the Lakers on the 20th. b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121........its just about to appear......b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121......Keep pushing........PUSH......PUSH.......b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121I see the head.......................b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121Cmon!Push.............YEAH!!!!!....PUSH........b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121Here we GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.......................b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121THE REGULAR SEASON DONT MEAN SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!! b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b, 21b, 21 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/pasue23is.gif" alt="" 21b,121b,121Are you implying that the Suns road to success is quite the labarious one?
  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    He said too BRING IT for the Lakers/Suns Game.b,121b,121I'm sayin that a regular season win is only a moral victory.
  • SnappingSnapping 995 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121He said too BRING IT for the Lakers/Suns Game.b,121b,121I'm sayin that a regular season win is only a moral victory. b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121Yeah but if you don't get enough "moral victories" you don't make the playoffs.
  • yuichiyuichi Urban sprawl 11,332 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121He said too BRING IT for the Lakers/Suns Game.b,121b,121I'm sayin that a regular season win is only a moral victory. b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121Yeah but if you don't get enough "moral victories" you don't make the playoffs. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121Oh snapping. img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/know.gif" alt="" 21
  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121b,121Won't be the first or last time I was wrong.....b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121Apparently I was wrong about Marc Gasol too!
  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121b,121Won't be the first or last time I was wrong.....b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121Apparently I was wrong about Marc Gasol too! b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121Haha....Dude is doin alright.b,121b,121In the long run, most rookies hit that ROOKIE WALL sometime during the season.
  • SnappingSnapping 995 Posts
    I like the new Q-Tip album, but this promotion he did for the Knicks is hilarious (and not in a good way)





    LOL at Curry and Starbury featured prominently throughout
  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    Melo is gonna try to score 44 points for Obama
  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
    Amare already has 41 and it's still in the 3rd.
  • yuichiyuichi Urban sprawl 11,332 Posts
    I like the new Q-Tip album, but this promotion he did for the Knicks is hilarious (and not in a good way)





    LOL at Curry and Starbury featured prominently throughout

    Was this aired on Nickelodeon recently? I'm sure I saw it there.

    Naw for real though, more like "Heeeey Naaaass". I thought it was cute how the midget was dancing.
  • yuichiyuichi Urban sprawl 11,332 Posts
    EARLY SEASON BASKETBALL = AWKWARD AT BEST

    I mean, I'm trying to watch this Cavs/Bulls game....but....I decided to get to work on my record sale.
  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    EARLY SEASON BASKETBALL = AWKWARD AT BEST

    I mean, I'm trying to watch this Cavs/Bulls game....but....I decided to get to work on my record sale.

    Cavs are STILL LeBoring.
  • yuichiyuichi Urban sprawl 11,332 Posts
    EARLY SEASON BASKETBALL = AWKWARD AT BEST

    I mean, I'm trying to watch this Cavs/Bulls game....but....I decided to get to work on my record sale.

    Cavs are STILL LeBoring.

    Seriously. At best, their offense is a two man game...Mo Williams drives, kicks it out jumper by Boobie Gibson. Delonte West drives....Lebron drives. Igauskus with the clumsy tip-in. Super,
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