Prez Debate Thread (Part Deux)

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    b,121The fact that he stuck around at the end while the cameras kept rolling is also very telling. McCain wanted to retreat and calm his blood pressure I'm sure.
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  • And another thing.....anyone else notice McCain's heavy breathing?

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    b,121The fact that he stuck around at the end while the cameras kept rolling is also very telling. McCain wanted to retreat and calm his blood pressure I'm sure.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121HAHA! funnyb,121b,121don't get me wrong, McCain is a true American hero and I have a lot of admiration for getting this far, but yeah, I'm sure if you were a POW and a Maverick senator for that many years, you'd need a nap too trying to step toe to toe against the young senator from Illinois. sayin!b,121b,121b,121b,121I figure if Hilary couldn't beat Obama, McCain doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell, hehe.

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    b,121The fact that he stuck around at the end while the cameras kept rolling is also very telling. McCain wanted to retreat and calm his blood pressure I'm sure.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121Absolutely. It was reported that Obama went over to the last guy who asked a question (the vet) and talked to him for quite awhile. I found that interesting.

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    b,121And another thing.....anyone else notice McCain's heavy breathing?
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121sayinb,121dude could barey speak or pronounce words when he was getting frustrated and angry stringing random phrases and ideas together, tipping his hat to Palin's style mega lulzb,121b,121definition of FAIL in front of national prime time live TV coverageb,121b,121made Obama look like a 3ghz Core 2 Duo vs his Apple IIc verbal processor speed hehe

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    b,121The fact that he stuck around at the end while the cameras kept rolling is also very telling. McCain wanted to retreat and calm his blood pressure I'm sure.
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    b,121Absolutely. It was reported that Obama went over to the last guy who asked a question (the vet) and talked to him for quite awhile. I found that interesting.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121I heard that too, great move cos Obama didn't really get a chance to reach out to that dude like McCain did. Haha, all McCain did was pat that dude on the shoulder and give him a handshake. I'm sure McCain wouldn't be able to remember dude's name tomorrow. b,121b,121Oh can you tell who I'm voting for? lulzb,121b,121b,121TELL 'EM JEEZY:b,121b,121object width="425" height="344"1param name="movie" value=""1/param1param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"1/param1embed src="" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"1/embed1/object1

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    b,121YOU KNOW WHO VOTED FOR IT??????
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    b,121THAT ONE!
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121No, it's really not. A girl I used to see used it as a colloquialism. Granted, she used it when pointing at her brother, and then, it was only bourne of a spirit of condescension. But it was a poor moment for McCain, either way. Weird timing. It's like he was a nerd working up to a "zinger" and blew the punchline on a joke that wasn't funny in the first place.b,121b,121If I was the Obama camp, I'd led it any latent rumblings fester for two days, and come out all magnanimously to defray the impact ("We have no doubt the Senator McCain was not referencing Senator Obama's race. We do, however, take umbrage at his stance on ---------").

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  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts
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    b,121The fact that he stuck around at the end while the cameras kept rolling is also very telling. McCain wanted to retreat and calm his blood pressure I'm sure.
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    b,121HAHA! funny
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    b,121don't get me wrong, McCain is a true American hero
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  • mylatencymylatency 10,475 Posts
    Obama will brush it off, he doesn't need to address that kinda schitt. Dude is like Teflon right now.

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    b,121The fact that he stuck around at the end while the cameras kept rolling is also very telling. McCain wanted to retreat and calm his blood pressure I'm sure.
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    b,121HAHA! funny
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    b,121don't get me wrong, McCain is a true American hero
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    b,121No, he really isn't.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121um, Vietnam war?

  • luckluck 4,077 Posts
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    b,121there's been mention of mccain's useage of humor in the past in these "town" formats....perhaps it's his attempt of "warmth"
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121Apparently, he was using Sarah Palin's crib notes, in which putting down the opposition becomes warm, connective tissue.

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    b,121McCain keeps namedropping Reagan.
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    MY HEEEROOOOOOO![/b]b,121b,121/font1font class="small"1Quote:/font1h,121b,121I am always amazed that there are so many people out there who don't share my view that he was the second worst president of the last century. b,121b,121h,121
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    b,121That's because some of us think he was the worst...
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121Dude, no way--I respect your dedication, but he has been surpassed by the current occupant of the whitehouse b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121I'm not sure most folks recall, but around the time Clinton won his first term, Reagan wasn't really as revered and referenced. Not, by my estimation, until Rush Limbaugh started hitting the Gipper bottle pretty hard.

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    Not a good sign for the McCain campaign (from - as far as I know it - a neutral site):b,121b,121img src="http://www.mediacurves.com/images/SecondPresDebate.gif"1

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    b,121The fact that he stuck around at the end while the cameras kept rolling is also very telling. McCain wanted to retreat and calm his blood pressure I'm sure.
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    b,121HAHA! funny
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    b,121don't get me wrong, McCain is a true American hero
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    b,121No, he really isn't.
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    b,121um, Vietnam war?
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121Mark, do you know anything about his personal history? Anything at all?

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    b,121LOL, dude, drop the surge routine--NOBODY CARES
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121The surge vis a vis the judgement of a President is certainly more substantive than Obama's BS "bomb Iran" talking point. But the latter is at least on the same level as McCain's ridiculous assertion that Obama would attack Pakistan when anyone with a brain should know that the man was talking about al Qaida within Pakistan. So, a push. And McCain really shouldn't have tried to clarify the "bomb Iran" line - that was a net loss.b,121b,121And Teddy McCain should probably take some of his own medicine as it relates to tough talk with Russia and the G8.b,121b,121b,121b,121Bonus mention:b,121b,121/font1
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    b,121Mark, do you know anything about his personal history? Anything at all?
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121yes quite a bit, do you?

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    font class="post"1b,121b,121Fair enough, I guess. But methinks it's a cover for a lack of a coherent global strategy as opposed to demurring on the strategical tip.

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    b,121I didn't see any of the debate, but wtf is this? Obama goes to shake McCain's hand and instead he points to his wife?
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    b,121I didn't see any of the debate, but wtf is this? Obama goes to shake McCain's hand and instead he points to his wife?
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    b,121Did John McCain just try the old tap-him-on-the-other-shoulder-and-see-if-he-falls-for-it ploy? SO High School.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121Luck, they shook hands before this shot. It wasn't visible on the CNN and NBC feeds but evidently ABC caught it, it happened when Tom told them to get away from the teleprompter...b,121b,121So, John didn't diss Obama at the end. I may loath what the man stands for and the tactics he employs in the campaign but I can't let the meme that he dissed Obama at the end stand.

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    b,121I didn't see any of the debate, but wtf is this? Obama goes to shake McCain's hand and instead he points to his wife?
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    b,121Luck, they shook hands before this shot. It wasn't visible on the CNN and NBC feeds but evidently ABC caught it, it happened when Tom told them to get away from the teleprompter...
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    b,121So, John didn't diss Obama at the end. I may loath what the man stands for and the tactics he employs in the campaign but I can't let the meme that he dissed Obama at the end stand.
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    b,121Luck, they shook hands before this shot. It wasn't visible on the CNN and NBC feeds but evidently ABC caught it, it happened when Tom told them to get away from the teleprompter...
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    b,121So, John didn't diss Obama at the end. I may loath what the man stands for and the tactics he employs in the campaign but I can't let the meme that he dissed Obama at the end stand.
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    b,121Ah. Well, count me snookered. YouTube strikes again. God Damn America.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121Nah, a lot of pundits fell for it too. Its splashed all over Huffingtonpost and TPM had to amend when the ABC footage became available.

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    b,121Luck, they shook hands before this shot. It wasn't visible on the CNN and NBC feeds but evidently ABC caught it, it happened when Tom told them to get away from the teleprompter...
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    b,121So, John didn't diss Obama at the end. I may loath what the man stands for and the tactics he employs in the campaign but I can't let the meme that he dissed Obama at the end stand.
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    b,121Ah. Well, count me snookered. YouTube strikes again. God Damn America.
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    b,121Nah, a lot of pundits fell for it too. Its splashed all over Huffingtonpost and TPM had to amend when the ABC footage became available.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121I think you're both right. He had already shaken his hand and was going for another one for the cameras. McCain decided instead to direct him to his wife. I dunno; sorta insignificant from where I stand.

  • By far the worst look for McCain, as far as screen presentation, was him wandering around in the back of shots while Obama was speaking. It made him look very tense and had an aura of "no grandpa - over i1here[/i]."

  • the virulently hateful, conservative "sports," talk show in town this morning said the race is over, and McCain is merely playing out the string.b,121b,121That is telling to me; when a Republican machine that was built on, 'staying on message,' and 'never showing weakness,' is going off message to admit weaknes...b,121b,121b,121STEP ON THE THROAT.

  • kalakala 3,361 Posts
    SWEEP TEH LEG

  • SoulhawkSoulhawk 3,197 Posts
    FINISH HIM!!!

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    b,121I think you're both right. He had already shaken his hand and was going for another one for the cameras. McCain decided instead to direct him to his wife. I dunno; sorta insignificant from where I stand.
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