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Obama question

HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
edited September 2008 in Strut Central
Are you voting for Obama because:b,121b,121a. he voted for the Patriot Act.b,121b. he supports the banking bail-out.b,121c. he is a war-mongerer with the best of them.b,121d.1McCain is a whopping .0001% different from Obama policy-wise and certainly not as handsome.1b,121b,121Disclaimer: F*ck MCCAIN, this is not a thread that in any way supports that traitorous piece of shit. b,121b,121Now, geaux...
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  • behemothbehemoth 2,189 Posts
    because i dont want this woman to be our president should the president die!b,121b,121a href="http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/palin-on-russia.html" target="_blank"1http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/palin-on-russia.html/a1
  • rascmonrascmon 441 Posts
    all of the above
  • OkemOkem 4,617 Posts
    I 3 Bush
  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
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    b,121because i dont want this woman to be our president should the president die!
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121I'll give you that one.
  • PATXPATX 2,820 Posts
    e. When he needs policy advice he calls on people who are deeply embedded in the private sector.
  • Birdman9Birdman9 5,417 Posts
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    b,121because i dont want this woman to be our president should the president die!
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121She's just the tip of the iceberg.b,121b,121What do you propose we do about the Supreme Court, Harvey? Leave it to the GOP to finish loading it up? b,121b,121Who do you propose we vote for if1McCain is not agreeable to our politics?b,121b,121I find it funny that people who don't agree with him policy-wise will make Obama out to be either THE SAME or TOO LEFTIST. I wish he was more centrist, but mostly I wish he would start getting mad. Despite what you say, Obama and McCain ARE NOT THE SAME RESULT.
  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
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    b,121because i dont want this woman to be our president should the president die!
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    b,121She's just the tip of the iceberg.
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    b,121What do you propose we do about the Supreme Court, Harvey? Leave it to the GOP to finish loading it up?
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    b,121Who do you propose we vote for if1McCain is not agreeable to our politics?
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    b,121I find it funny that people who don't agree with him policy-wise will make Obama out to be either THE SAME or TOO LEFTIST. I wish he was more centrist, but mostly I wish he would start getting mad. Despite what you say, Obama and McCain ARE NOT THE SAME RESULT.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121I find it funny that you only wish to push these recurring problems off on your children since you clearly aren't man enough to deal with actual solutions rather than just a duct-tape patch job. b,121b,121Obama supporting this bail-out is some serious bullshit and it should have you questioning your candidate instead of1heaping further dirt on the grave of1McCain.
  • SmallAxeRickSmallAxeRick 497 Posts
    the ever-so-slightly lesser of two evils.b,121nothing new under the sun...b,121b,121b,121Ron Paul/b112008/s1 : (
  • UnherdUnherd 1,880 Posts
    Because he acknowledges that health care in this country is a problem. Iraq too. Also tax cuts for the rich. b,121b,121Because he's the only candidate who actually talks about poverty and education. b,121b,121Because you'd have to have your head so incredibly far up your ass looking for conspiracy theories to think both candidates are the same, or that any kind of third party protest vote could possibly be meaningful when McCain and Palin are on the ballot, and so close in the polls.
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    b,121Because he acknowledges that health care in this country is a problem. Iraq too. Also tax cuts for the rich.
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    b,121Because he's the only candidate who actually talks about poverty and education.
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    b,121Because you'd have to have your head so incredibly far up your ass
    looking for conspiracy theories/s1 taking your kids to the pool while high/b11to think both candidates are the same, or that any kind of third party protest vote could possibly be meaningful when McCain and Palin are on the ballot, and so close in the polls. b,121b,121h,121
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  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
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    b,121Because he acknowledges that health care in this country is a problem. Iraq too. Also tax cuts for the rich.
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    b,121Because he's the only candidate who actually talks about poverty and education.
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    b,121Because you'd have to have your head so incredibly far up your ass looking for conspiracy theories to think both candidates are the same, or that any kind of third party protest vote could possibly be meaningful when McCain and Palin are on the ballot, and so close in the polls.1
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121Excuse me, but there is too much Kool-aid spilling from the sides of your mouth as you say that for me to understand any of it.
  • theory9theory9 1,128 Posts
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    b,121Because he acknowledges that health care in this country is a problem. Iraq too. Also tax cuts for the rich.
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    b,121Because he's the only candidate who actually talks about poverty and education.
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    b,121Because you'd have to have your head so incredibly far up your ass looking for conspiracy theories to think both candidates are the same, or that any kind of third party protest vote could possibly be meaningful when McCain and Palin are on the ballot, and so close in the polls.1
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121IT HATH BEEN TOOKEN THERE HARVEY!
  • UnherdUnherd 1,880 Posts
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    b,121Because he acknowledges that health care in this country is a problem. Iraq too. Also tax cuts for the rich.
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    b,121Because he's the only candidate who actually talks about poverty and education.
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    b,121Because you'd have to have your head so incredibly far up your ass looking for conspiracy theories to think both candidates are the same, or that any kind of third party protest vote could possibly be meaningful when McCain and Palin are on the ballot, and so close in the polls.1
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    b,121Excuse me, but there is too much Kool-aid spilling from the sides of your mouth as you say that for me to understand any of it.1
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121This thread is so incredibly fb1[/b]ucking stupid dude. Everything you say applies triple to McCain.1b,121b,121Your right tho, the Kool Aid made me imagine Obama talking about Iraq, education, poverty and health care for the last 18 months.1Clearly one of your highly reputable websites has given you some inside info about his secret nefarious plans.
  • UnherdUnherd 1,880 Posts
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    b,121 Seriously though everybody, if we all just WAKE UP and elect Ron Paul, he will cut our taxes so low we can all buy our own healthcare and schools! And with 75% less jews, blacks and lizard people.1
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  • keithvanhornkeithvanhorn 3,855 Posts
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    b,121Are you voting for Obama because:
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    b,121a. he voted for the Patriot Act.
    b,121b. he supports the banking bail-out.
    b,121c. he is a war-mongerer with the best of them.
    b,121d.1McCain is a whopping .0001% different from Obama policy-wise and certainly not as handsome.
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    b,121Disclaimer: F*ck MCCAIN, this is not a thread that in any way supports that traitorous piece of shit.1
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    b,121Now, geaux...
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121b,121a. he wasn't in the senate when the Patriot Act was approved, but when it was up for re-authorization he voted for an improved version - from a civil liberties perspective. b,121b,121b. we don't know what the banking bail out is yet, so how can you pass judgment - especially since he hasn't even voted yet.b,121b,121c. please.b,121b,121d.1 obama differs from Mccain on pretty much every issue.b,121b,121b,121 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/walkawaysonfinal.gif" alt="" 21
  • LaserWolfLaserWolf Portland Oregon 11,517 Posts
    He supports civil libirties to a much greater degree than McCain.1And a 1000x more than Bush.b,121b,121I'm still hoping he oppose a bail out, though it looks doubtful. b,121b,121He believes in DIPLOMACY, and military. McCain has always rejected diplomacy and sees the military as the only sollution to foriegn problems. b,121b,121BTW, I support his call to crush the Taliban and Qaeda.
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    b,121BTW, I support his call to crush the Taliban and Qaeda.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121a brave position!
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    a href="http://www.zshare.net/audio/19012632005e7044/" target="_blank"1KING MOST-THE OBAMIX
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    b,121The intent of this mix was to try and capture what WE'VE all been feeling these past months: hope, struggle, and the importance of facing a challenge. It also serves as a reminder, and perhaps an introduction to what OUR candidate is all about.1With that being said enjoy, register, & get involved
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    b,121History, Change, & Victory In November
    b,121-King Most
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    b,121Intro/Smoked Sugar: I'm A Winner
    b,121Roy Davis Jr.: People Get Ready
    b,121Jackson 5: We're Almost There (DJ Spinna Remix)
    b,121Erykah Badu: Solider (Sasaac Remix)
    b,121Masta Ace: Beautifull
    b,121Black Spade: We Need A Revolution
    b,121Skull Snaps: It's A New Day
    b,121Marvin Gaye & The Mizzel Brothers: We Are We Going?
    b,121James Brown: Mind Power
    b,121Antibals: Si Se Puede
    b,121Grandmaster Flash: The Message (Next Message Blend Version)
    b,121Dj Day: A Place To Go
    b,121Double Exposure: Everyman For Himself
    b,121Donald Byrd: Change Makes Ya Wanna Hustle
    b,121Stevie Wonder: Blackman (Kay Sputnik Re-Edit)
    b,121L.T.D.: Love To The World
    b,121Cymande: Bra
    b,121Pitbull: American War
    b,121The Dynamics: Move On Up
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    b,121and big shouts to my dude Prince Aries of D2S for the graphics.
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  • DrWuDrWu 4,021 Posts
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    b,121because i dont want this woman to be our president should the president die!
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121That truly is the most scary answer I have ever seen her give. She really doesn't have a grasp on our relationship to Russia in any sense. I'm worried she couldn't find it on a map.b,121b,121I'd like to see Palin debate foreign policy head to head with Miss Teen South Carolina. Just a reminder of1her genius on the topic.b,121b,121object width="425" height="344"1param name="movie" value=""1/param1param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"1/param1embed src="" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"1/embed1/object1
  • Birdman9Birdman9 5,417 Posts
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    b,121because i dont want this woman to be our president should the president die!
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    b,121She's just the tip of the iceberg.
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    b,121What do you propose we do about the Supreme Court, Harvey? Leave it to the GOP to finish loading it up?
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    b,121Who do you propose we vote for if McCain is not agreeable to our politics?
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    b,121I find it funny that people who don't agree with him policy-wise will make Obama out to be either THE SAME or TOO LEFTIST. I wish he was more centrist, but mostly I wish he would start getting mad.1Despite what you say, Obama and McCain ARE NOT THE SAME RESULT.1
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    b,121I find it funny that you only wish to push these recurring problems off on your children since you clearly aren't man enough to deal with actual solutions rather than just a duct-tape patch job.1
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121as for my manhood, F*ck you, 'Sheid. I think I am completely done with your condescending holier-than-thou ass.1b,121b,121Take yourself off the grid already and spare us your whining. I would love to see you implement a solution anywhere anytime, but I don't think you could build a consensus with your closest friends and family. You are a smug running joke, nothing more.
  • barjesusbarjesus 872 Posts
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    b,121I find it funny that you only wish to push these recurring problems off on your children since you clearly aren't man enough to deal with actual solutions rather than just a duct-tape patch job.1
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121as for my manhood, F*ck you, 'Sheid. I think I am completely done with your condescending holier-than-thou ass.1b,121b,121Take yourself off the grid already and spare us your whining. I would love to see you implement a solution anywhere anytime, but I don't think you could build a consensus with your closest friends and family. You are a smug running joke, nothing more.1b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121Ouch.b,121b,121b,121 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/raw.gif" alt="" 21 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/son.gif" alt="" 21
  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
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    b,121because i dont want this woman to be our president should the president die!
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    b,121She's just the tip of the iceberg.
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    b,121What do you propose we do about the Supreme Court, Harvey? Leave it to the GOP to finish loading it up?
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    b,121Who do you propose we vote for if McCain is not agreeable to our politics?
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    b,121I find it funny that people who don't agree with him policy-wise will make Obama out to be either THE SAME or TOO LEFTIST. I wish he was more centrist, but mostly I wish he would start getting mad. Despite what you say, Obama and McCain ARE NOT THE SAME RESULT.1
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    b,121I find it funny that you only wish to push these recurring problems off on your children since you clearly aren't man enough to deal with actual solutions rather than just a duct-tape patch job.
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    b,121as for my manhood, F*ck you, 'Sheid. I think I am completely done with your condescending holier-than-thou ass.
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    b,121Take yourself off the grid already and spare us your whining. I would love to see you implement a solution anywhere anytime, but I don't think you could build a consensus with your closest friends and family. You are a smug running joke, nothing more.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121Solution = positive results in schools picking up where even your best Dems simply aren't getting the job done.b,121b,121Non-solution = supporting a dude who agrees that paying $700 billion in real money to crooks who boo hoo couldn't collect on their reckless extensions of pretend money loans is a good idea. b,121b,121Solution = writing effective character letters to help good dudes on bum raps get/stay out of jail.b,121b,121Non-solution = acting as if anyone who doesn't go along with your weak-ass concept of1consensus is merely insignificant to the greater reality.b,121b,121Solution = doing something yourself.b,121b,121Non-solution = voting in hopes that someone you've never met will do something for you. b,121b,121Seriously, get mad. You should be mad. But one day, you're gonna realize you wasted your time getting mad at me instead of1someone/something else.
  • Birdman9Birdman9 5,417 Posts
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    b,121because i dont want this woman to be our president should the president die!
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    b,121She's just the tip of1the iceberg.
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    b,121What do you propose we do about the Supreme Court, Harvey? Leave it to the GOP to finish loading it up?
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    b,121Who do you propose we vote for if McCain is not agreeable to our politics?
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    b,121I find it funny that people who don't agree with him policy-wise will make Obama out to be either THE SAME or TOO LEFTIST. I wish he was more centrist, but mostly I wish he would start getting mad. Despite what you say, Obama and McCain ARE NOT THE SAME RESULT.1
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    b,121I find it funny that you only wish to push these recurring problems off on your children since you clearly aren't man enough to deal with actual solutions rather than just a duct-tape patch job.
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    b,121as for my manhood, F*ck you, 'Sheid. I think I am completely done with your condescending holier-than-thou ass.
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    b,121Take yourself off the grid already and spare us your whining. I would love to see you implement a solution anywhere anytime, but I don't think you could build a consensus with your closest friends and family. You are a smug running joke, nothing more.1
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    b,121Solution = positive results in schools picking up where even your best Dems simply aren't getting the job done.
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    b,121Non-solution = supporting a dude who agrees that paying $700 billion in real money to crooks who boo hoo couldn't collect on their reckless extensions of1pretend money loans is a good idea.1
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    b,121Solution = writing effective character letters to help good dudes on bum raps get/stay out of jail.
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    b,121Non-solution = acting as if anyone who doesn't go along with your weak-ass concept of consensus is merely insignificant to the greater reality.
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    b,121Solution = doing something yourself.
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    b,121Non-solution = voting in hopes that someone you've never met will do something for you.1
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    b,121Seriously, get mad. You should be mad. But one day, you're gonna realize you wasted your time getting mad at me instead of1someone/something else.1
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121For once in your life you missed something that was actually about YOU Robert.b,121b,121I am not mad at the world for being the world, I am not mad at the system for being the system. This was a thread about Obama, and why we might see him as an option.b,121b,121I got mad at YOU. You question the love I have for my children, call me not 'man' enough to solve problems hundreds of1years in the making and then wanna talk about shit that has nothing to do with a thread you started. Let me clarify: F*ck YOU, not McCain, not Obama, not the system. People like you talk all damn day about shit that has nothing to do with the matters at hand, fine.1Talk.1b,121b,121Everything up there in you self-righteous list is long on gratifying YOURSELF and platitudes about "Doing something yourself", but when did a thread about a specific man (the evil Obama) become a laundry list(bragging list) for things I should be doing to make shit better. YOU DON'T KNOW ME, and this was not what I responded to, so keep your simple opinions about how I don't love my children enough to help the real people. F*ck YOU. You think you can quantify based on support for one presidential candidate the value I have in any community? What does that say for your buddies you are trying to get out of JAIL, Robert? Are they useless because of1their mistakes? What have1they done to make a better world? In your equation, it's best if1they don't have a voice in the greater community. While you write their letters of1recommendation, tell them that their vote doesn't matter too.b,121b,121I have one bit of friendly advice from a guy who used to think you had a brain, a useful prescence on this board, and probably a decent bone in his body: GET OVER YOURSELF.
  • The_Hook_UpThe_Hook_Up 8,182 Posts
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    b,121because i dont want this woman to be our president should the president die!
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    b,121She's just the tip of1the iceberg.
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    b,121What do you propose we do about the Supreme Court, Harvey? Leave it to the GOP to finish loading it up?
    b,121
    b,121Who do you propose we vote for if McCain is not agreeable to our politics?
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    b,121I find it funny that people who don't agree with him policy-wise will make Obama out to be either THE SAME or TOO LEFTIST. I wish he was more centrist, but mostly I wish he would start getting mad. Despite what you say, Obama and McCain ARE NOT THE SAME RESULT.1
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    b,121I find it funny that you only wish to push these recurring problems off on your children since you clearly aren't man enough to deal with actual solutions rather than just a duct-tape patch job.
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    b,121as for my manhood, F*ck you, 'Sheid. I think I am completely done with your condescending holier-than-thou ass.
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    b,121Take yourself off the grid already and spare us your whining. I would love to see you implement a solution anywhere anytime, but I don't think you could build a consensus with your closest friends and family. You are a smug running joke, nothing more.1
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    b,121Solution = positive results in schools picking up where even your best Dems simply aren't getting the job done.
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    b,121Non-solution = supporting a dude who agrees that paying $700 billion in real money to crooks who boo hoo couldn't collect on their reckless extensions of1pretend money loans is a good idea.1
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    b,121Solution = writing effective character letters to help good dudes on bum raps get/stay out of jail.
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    b,121Non-solution = acting as if anyone who doesn't go along with your weak-ass concept of consensus is merely insignificant to the greater reality.
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    b,121Solution = doing something yourself.
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    b,121Non-solution = voting in hopes that someone you've never met will do something for you.1
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    b,121Seriously, get mad. You should be mad. But one day, you're gonna realize you wasted your time getting mad at me instead of1someone/something else.1
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    b,121For once in your life you missed something that was actually about YOU Robert.
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    b,121I am not mad at the world for being the world, I am not mad at the system for being the system. This was a thread about Obama, and why we might see him as an option.
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    b,121I got mad at YOU. You question the love I have for my children, call me not 'man' enough to solve problems hundreds of1years in the making and then wanna talk about shit that has nothing to do with a thread you started. Let me clarify: F*ck YOU, not McCain, not Obama, not the system. People like you talk all damn day about shit that has nothing to do with the matters at hand, fine.1Talk.1
    b,121
    b,121Everything up there in you self-righteous list is long on gratifying YOURSELF and platitudes about "Doing something yourself", but when did a thread about a specific man (the evil Obama) become a laundry list(bragging list) for things I should be doing to make shit better. YOU DON'T KNOW ME, and this was not what I responded to, so keep your simple opinions about how I don't love my children enough to help the real people. F*ck YOU. You think you can quantify based on support for one presidential candidate the value I have in any community? What does that say for your buddies you are trying to get out of JAIL, Robert? Are they useless because of1their mistakes? What have1they done to make a better world? In your equation, it's best if1they don't have a voice in the greater community. While you write their letters of1recommendation, tell them that their vote doesn't matter too.
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    b,121I have one bit of friendly advice from a guy who used to think you had a brain, a useful prescence on this board, and probably a decent bone in his body: GET OVER YOURSELF.1
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  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
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    b,121because i dont want this woman to be our president should the president die!
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    b,121She's just the tip of1the iceberg.
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    b,121What do you propose we do about the Supreme Court, Harvey? Leave it to the GOP to finish loading it up?
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    b,121Who do you propose we vote for if McCain is not agreeable to our politics?
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    b,121I find it funny that people who don't agree with him policy-wise will make Obama out to be either THE SAME or TOO LEFTIST. I wish he was more centrist, but mostly I wish he would start getting mad. Despite what you say, Obama and McCain ARE NOT THE SAME RESULT.1
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    b,121I find it funny that you only wish to push these recurring problems off on your children since you clearly aren't man enough to deal with actual solutions rather than just a duct-tape patch job.
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    b,121as for my manhood, F*ck you, 'Sheid. I think I am completely done with your condescending holier-than-thou ass.
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    b,121Take yourself off the grid already and spare us your whining. I would love to see you implement a solution anywhere anytime, but I don't think you could build a consensus with your closest friends and family. You are a smug running joke, nothing more.1
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    b,121Solution = positive results in schools picking up where even your best Dems simply aren't getting the job done.
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    b,121Non-solution = supporting a dude who agrees that paying $700 billion in real money to crooks who boo hoo couldn't collect on their reckless extensions of1pretend money loans is a good idea.1
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    b,121Solution = writing effective character letters to help good dudes on bum raps get/stay out of jail.
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    b,121Non-solution = acting as if anyone who doesn't go along with your weak-ass concept of consensus is merely insignificant to the greater reality.
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    b,121Solution = doing something yourself.
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    b,121Non-solution = voting in hopes that someone you've never met will do something for you.1
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    b,121Seriously, get mad. You should be mad. But one day, you're gonna realize you wasted your time getting mad at me instead of1someone/something else.1
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    b,121For once in your life you missed something that was actually about YOU Robert.
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    b,121I am not mad at the world for being the world, I am not mad at the system for being the system. This was a thread about Obama, and why we might see him as an option.
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    b,121I got mad at YOU. You question the love I have for my children, call me not 'man' enough to solve problems hundreds of1years in the making and then wanna talk about shit that has nothing to do with a thread you started. Let me clarify: F*ck YOU, not McCain, not Obama, not the system. People like you talk all damn day about shit that has nothing to do with the matters at hand, fine.1Talk.1
    b,121
    b,121Everything up there in you self-righteous list is long on gratifying YOURSELF and platitudes about "Doing something yourself", but when did a thread about a specific man (the evil Obama) become a laundry list(bragging list) for things I should be doing to make shit better. YOU DON'T KNOW ME, and this was not what I responded to, so keep your simple opinions about how I don't love my children enough to help the real people. F*ck YOU. You think you can quantify based on support for one presidential candidate the value I have in any community? What does that say for your buddies you are trying to get out of JAIL, Robert? Are they useless because of1their mistakes? What have1they done to make a better world? In your equation, it's best if1they don't have a voice in the greater community. While you write their letters of1recommendation, tell them that their vote doesn't matter too.
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    b,121I have one bit of friendly advice from a guy who used to think you had a brain, a useful prescence on this board, and probably a decent bone in his body: GET OVER YOURSELF.1
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121Yeah dude, saying something as common as "you are passing the problems at hand on to your children" is a personal jab of1the highest order.1b,121b,121You know most of1the equation is how you take it, right?b,121b,121And you gobbled it right up and threw a fit over it...in which you presented me with a personal challenge. So then when I tell you that I'm personally up to the challenege, you then want to act like I'm making everything about me.1b,121b,121Your "consensus-building" argument tactics are so old hat and tired you should just light yourself on fire right now.1b,121b,121Fine, maybe you never want to hear that Obama is merely a complicit cog in an evil wheeel and that by voting for him it makes you complict as well. b,121b,121Maybe you also want to think that any historical fact or opinion that exists outside of realm of1the New1York Times is automatically kooky crazy and must have originated from a crack-pot website. b,121b,121Maybe you think you are so powerless that you will never be part of1ever creating anything different within the political realm that you obviosuly put so much stock into, leaving you to inflate consolation prizes like Obama into messiahs. b,121b,121Maybe I'll stop being the one to remind you of1these things every few1weeks. b,121b,121But probably not.
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    b,121because i dont want this woman to be our president should the president die!
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    b,121She's just the tip of1the iceberg.
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    b,121What do you propose we do about the Supreme Court, Harvey? Leave it to the GOP to finish loading it up?
    b,121
    b,121Who do you propose we vote for if McCain is not agreeable to our politics?
    b,121
    b,121I find it funny that people who don't agree with him policy-wise will make Obama out to be either THE SAME or TOO LEFTIST. I wish he was more centrist, but mostly I wish he would start getting mad. Despite what you say, Obama and McCain ARE NOT THE SAME RESULT.1
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    b,121I find it funny that you only wish to push these recurring problems off on your children since you clearly aren't man enough to deal with actual solutions rather than just a duct-tape patch job.
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    b,121as for my manhood, F*ck you, 'Sheid. I think I am completely done with your condescending holier-than-thou ass.
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    b,121Take yourself off the grid already and spare us your whining. I would love to see you implement a solution anywhere anytime, but I don't think you could build a consensus with your closest friends and family. You are a smug running joke, nothing more.1
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    b,121Solution = positive results in schools picking up where even your best Dems simply aren't getting the job done.
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    b,121Non-solution = supporting a dude who agrees that paying $700 billion in real money to crooks who boo hoo couldn't collect on their reckless extensions of1pretend money loans is a good idea.1
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    b,121Solution = writing effective character letters to help good dudes on bum raps get/stay out of jail.
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    b,121Non-solution = acting as if anyone who doesn't go along with your weak-ass concept of consensus is merely insignificant to the greater reality.
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    b,121Solution = doing something yourself.
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    b,121Non-solution = voting in hopes that someone you've never met will do something for you.1
    b,121
    b,121Seriously, get mad. You should be mad. But one day, you're gonna realize you wasted your time getting mad at me instead of1someone/something else.1
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    b,121For once in your life you missed something that was actually about YOU Robert.
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    b,121I am not mad at the world for being the world, I am not mad at the system for being the system. This was a thread about Obama, and why we might see him as an option.
    b,121
    b,121I got mad at YOU. You question the love I have for my children, call me not 'man' enough to solve problems hundreds of1years in the making and then wanna talk about shit that has nothing to do with a thread you started. Let me clarify: F*ck YOU, not McCain, not Obama, not the system. People like you talk all damn day about shit that has nothing to do with the matters at hand, fine.1Talk.1
    b,121
    b,121Everything up there in you self-righteous list is long on gratifying YOURSELF and platitudes about "Doing something yourself", but when did a thread about a specific man (the evil Obama) become a laundry list(bragging list) for things I should be doing to make shit better. YOU DON'T KNOW ME, and this was not what I responded to, so keep your simple opinions about how I don't love my children enough to help the real people. F*ck YOU. You think you can quantify based on support for one presidential candidate the value I have in any community? What does that say for your buddies you are trying to get out of JAIL, Robert? Are they useless because of1their mistakes? What have1they done to make a better world? In your equation, it's best if1they don't have a voice in the greater community. While you write their letters of1recommendation, tell them that their vote doesn't matter too.
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    b,121I have one bit of friendly advice from a guy who used to think you had a brain, a useful prescence on this board, and probably a decent bone in his body: GET OVER YOURSELF.1
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    b,121Yeah dude, saying something as common as "you are passing the problems at hand on to your children" is a personal jab of1the highest order.1
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    b,121You know most of1the equation is how you take it, right?
    b,121
    b,121And you gobbled it right up and threw a fit over it...in which you presented me with a personal challenge. So then when I tell you that I'm personally up to the challenege, you then want to act like I'm making everything about me.1
    b,121
    b,121Your "consensus-building" argument tactics are so old hat and tired you should just light yourself on fire right now.1
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    b,121Fine, maybe you never want to hear that Obama is merely a complicit cog in an evil wheeel and that by voting for him it makes you complict as well.
    b,121
    b,121Maybe you also want to think that any historical fact or opinion that exists outside of realm of1the New1York Times is automatically kooky crazy and must have originated from a crack-pot website.
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    b,121Maybe you think you are so powerless that you will never be part of1ever creating anything different within the political realm that you obviosuly put so much stock into, leaving you to inflate consolation prizes like Obama into messiahs.
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    b,121Maybe I'll stop being the one to remind you of1these things every few1weeks.
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    b,121But probably not.1
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121And maybe you will see past your nose long enough to see that you are as much a part of1the problem as anyone else, you self-centered, self-righteous demagogue. But probably not.b,121b,121All you know how to do is get under people's skin with your bullshit, if1everyone had a piece of1the pie you wouldn't have a windmill to tilt at and you would be miserable. You couldnt survive off the grid a day of1your life. I certainly don't think of1myself as powerless, but I am kinda glad that idiots like you will remain so. Hopefully you will muster up the courage to love your children enough to get off1your high horse and look reality in the face. Children will always have problems passed along....how is this news? When has it ever not been so? WTF does any of1this have1to do with the topic of1your thread??b,121b,121I repeat: GET OVER YOURSELF.
  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
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    b,121because i dont want this woman to be our president should the president die!
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    b,121She's just the tip of1the iceberg.
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    b,121What do you propose we do about the Supreme Court, Harvey? Leave it to the GOP to finish loading it up?
    b,121
    b,121Who do you propose we vote for if McCain is not agreeable to our politics?
    b,121
    b,121I find it funny that people who don't agree with him policy-wise will make Obama out to be either THE SAME or TOO LEFTIST. I wish he was more centrist, but mostly I wish he would start getting mad. Despite what you say, Obama and McCain ARE NOT THE SAME RESULT.1
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    b,121I find it funny that you only wish to push these recurring problems off on your children since you clearly aren't man enough to deal with actual solutions rather than just a duct-tape patch job.
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    b,121as for my manhood, F*ck you, 'Sheid. I think I am completely done with your condescending holier-than-thou ass.
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    b,121Take yourself off the grid already and spare us your whining. I would love to see you implement a solution anywhere anytime, but I don't think you could build a consensus with your closest friends and family. You are a smug running joke, nothing more.1
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    b,121Solution = positive results in schools picking up where even your best Dems simply aren't getting the job done.
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    b,121Non-solution = supporting a dude who agrees that paying $700 billion in real money to crooks who boo hoo couldn't collect on their reckless extensions of1pretend money loans is a good idea.1
    b,121
    b,121Solution = writing effective character letters to help good dudes on bum raps get/stay out of jail.
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    b,121Non-solution = acting as if anyone who doesn't go along with your weak-ass concept of consensus is merely insignificant to the greater reality.
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    b,121Solution = doing something yourself.
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    b,121Non-solution = voting in hopes that someone you've never met will do something for you.1
    b,121
    b,121Seriously, get mad. You should be mad. But one day, you're gonna realize you wasted your time getting mad at me instead of1someone/something else.1
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    b,121For once in your life you missed something that was actually about YOU Robert.
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    b,121I am not mad at the world for being the world, I am not mad at the system for being the system. This was a thread about Obama, and why we might see him as an option.
    b,121
    b,121I got mad at YOU. You question the love I have for my children, call me not 'man' enough to solve problems hundreds of1years in the making and then wanna talk about shit that has nothing to do with a thread you started. Let me clarify: F*ck YOU, not McCain, not Obama, not the system. People like you talk all damn day about shit that has nothing to do with the matters at hand, fine.1Talk.1
    b,121
    b,121Everything up there in you self-righteous list is long on gratifying YOURSELF and platitudes about "Doing something yourself", but when did a thread about a specific man (the evil Obama) become a laundry list(bragging list) for things I should be doing to make shit better. YOU DON'T KNOW ME, and this was not what I responded to, so keep your simple opinions about how I don't love my children enough to help the real people. F*ck YOU. You think you can quantify based on support for one presidential candidate the value I have in any community? What does that say for your buddies you are trying to get out of JAIL, Robert? Are they useless because of1their mistakes? What have1they done to make a better world? In your equation, it's best if1they don't have a voice in the greater community. While you write their letters of1recommendation, tell them that their vote doesn't matter too.
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    b,121I have one bit of friendly advice from a guy who used to think you had a brain, a useful prescence on this board, and probably a decent bone in his body: GET OVER YOURSELF.1
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    b,121Yeah dude, saying something as common as "you are passing the problems at hand on to your children" is a personal jab of1the highest order.1
    b,121
    b,121You know most of1the equation is how you take it, right?
    b,121
    b,121And you gobbled it right up and threw a fit over it...in which you presented me with a personal challenge. So then when I tell you that I'm personally up to the challenege, you then want to act like I'm making everything about me.1
    b,121
    b,121Your "consensus-building" argument tactics are so old hat and tired you should just light yourself on fire right now.1
    b,121
    b,121Fine, maybe you never want to hear that Obama is merely a complicit cog in an evil wheeel and that by voting for him it makes you complict as well.
    b,121
    b,121Maybe you also want to think that any historical fact or opinion that exists outside of realm of1the New1York Times is automatically kooky crazy and must have originated from a crack-pot website.
    b,121
    b,121Maybe you think you are so powerless that you will never be part of1ever creating anything different within the political realm that you obviosuly put so much stock into, leaving you to inflate consolation prizes like Obama into messiahs.
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    b,121Maybe I'll stop being the one to remind you of1these things every few1weeks.
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    b,121But probably not.1
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    b,121And maybe you will see past your nose long enough to see that you are as much a part of1the problem as anyone else, you self-centered, self-righteous demagogue. But probably not.
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    b,121All you know how to do is get under people's skin with your bullshit, if1everyone had a piece of1the pie you wouldn't have a windmill to tilt at and you would be miserable. You couldnt survive off the grid a day of1your life. I certainly don't think of1myself as powerless, but I am kinda glad that idiots like you will remain so. Hopefully you will muster up the courage to love your children enough to get off1your high horse and look reality in the face. Children will always have problems passed along....how is this news? When has it ever not been so? WTF does any of1this have1to do with the topic of1your thread??
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    b,121I repeat: GET OVER YOURSELF.1
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121The topic of1the thread is why do you have faith that Obama is going to do diddley squat if1he's already punking out and openly supporting this most crimnal bail-out? b,121b,121Why do people act like it's cool that under Obama we bomb1the F*ck out of Afghanistan just as long as we let up a little on Iraq?b,121b,121And who are you calling powerless? Again, I see positive results of1my efforts on the daily. But it's still half-asses like you who are steady pinning productive people like me to the fringe. b,121b,121According to "people like you", screw making the piece-by-piece changes that are begging to be made around here. Let's put all of1our worth into bombing people overseas, poisoning people here, and bailing-out billionaire bankers.1b,121b,121Seriously, when do you people finally say enough is enough? Not just your candidate, but every one of1you who support him are so compromised that you practically no longer exist. And what the hell are y'all going to do if1God forbid y'all lose again?b,121b,121It pains me to see people donating their money to the Obama campaign. Dude's either gonna win or he isn't. If you haven't been paying attention...ever, it's not really up to us. And if all of1that money could instead be put int the hands of1people in the trenches actually making the changes needed...maybe y'all could then better spend your time than always looking for the next knee-jerk reaction to George Puppet Bush. b,121b,121I mean, F*ck...Obama isn't going to do shit to slow down the war on terror. He's clearly in on further f*cking us financially with this bail-out crap. And unless he's about to free thousands upon thousands of1people held in US jails over janky charges, he's got no more than a single righteous loogey to offset an ocean of wrongdoing when it comes to civil liberties.1b,121b,121But yeah, let's act like we're about to vote in Martin Luther King, Jr.1b,121b,121 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/happyday.gif" alt="" /1
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    b,121because i dont want this woman to be our president should the president die!
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    b,121She's just the tip of1the iceberg.
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    b,121What do you propose we do about the Supreme Court, Harvey? Leave it to the GOP to finish loading it up?
    b,121
    b,121Who do you propose we vote for if McCain is not agreeable to our politics?
    b,121
    b,121I find it funny that people who don't agree with him policy-wise will make Obama out to be either THE SAME or TOO LEFTIST. I wish he was more centrist, but mostly I wish he would start getting mad. Despite what you say, Obama and McCain ARE NOT THE SAME RESULT.1
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    b,121I find it funny that you only wish to push these recurring problems off on your children since you clearly aren't man enough to deal with actual solutions rather than just a duct-tape patch job.
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    b,121as for my manhood, F*ck you, 'Sheid. I think I am completely done with your condescending holier-than-thou ass.
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    b,121Take yourself off the grid already and spare us your whining. I would love to see you implement a solution anywhere anytime, but I don't think you could build a consensus with your closest friends and family. You are a smug running joke, nothing more.1
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    b,121Solution = positive results in schools picking up where even your best Dems simply aren't getting the job done.
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    b,121Non-solution = supporting a dude who agrees that paying $700 billion in real money to crooks who boo hoo couldn't collect on their reckless extensions of1pretend money loans is a good idea.1
    b,121
    b,121Solution = writing effective character letters to help good dudes on bum raps get/stay out of jail.
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    b,121Non-solution = acting as if anyone who doesn't go along with your weak-ass concept of consensus is merely insignificant to the greater reality.
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    b,121Solution = doing something yourself.
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    b,121Non-solution = voting in hopes that someone you've never met will do something for you.1
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    b,121Seriously, get mad. You should be mad. But one day, you're gonna realize you wasted your time getting mad at me instead of1someone/something else.1
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    b,121For once in your life you missed something that was actually about YOU Robert.
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    b,121I am not mad at the world for being the world, I am not mad at the system for being the system. This was a thread about Obama, and why we might see him as an option.
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    b,121I got mad at YOU. You question the love I have for my children, call me not 'man' enough to solve problems hundreds of1years in the making and then wanna talk about shit that has nothing to do with a thread you started. Let me clarify: F*ck YOU, not McCain, not Obama, not the system. People like you talk all damn day about shit that has nothing to do with the matters at hand, fine.1Talk.1
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    b,121Everything up there in you self-righteous list is long on gratifying YOURSELF and platitudes about "Doing something yourself", but when did a thread about a specific man (the evil Obama) become a laundry list(bragging list) for things I should be doing to make shit better. YOU DON'T KNOW ME, and this was not what I responded to, so keep your simple opinions about how I don't love my children enough to help the real people. F*ck YOU. You think you can quantify based on support for one presidential candidate the value I have in any community? What does that say for your buddies you are trying to get out of JAIL, Robert? Are they useless because of1their mistakes? What have1they done to make a better world? In your equation, it's best if1they don't have a voice in the greater community. While you write their letters of1recommendation, tell them that their vote doesn't matter too.
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    b,121I have one bit of friendly advice from a guy who used to think you had a brain, a useful prescence on this board, and probably a decent bone in his body: GET OVER YOURSELF.1
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    b,121Yeah dude, saying something as common as "you are passing the problems at hand on to your children" is a personal jab of1the highest order.1
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    b,121You know most of1the equation is how you take it, right?
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    b,121And you gobbled it right up and threw a fit over it...in which you presented me with a personal challenge. So then when I tell you that I'm personally up to the challenege, you then want to act like I'm making everything about me.1
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    b,121Your "consensus-building" argument tactics are so old hat and tired you should just light yourself on fire right now.1
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    b,121Fine, maybe you never want to hear that Obama is merely a complicit cog in an evil wheeel and that by voting for him it makes you complict as well.
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    b,121Maybe you also want to think that any historical fact or opinion that exists outside of realm of1the New1York Times is automatically kooky crazy and must have originated from a crack-pot website.
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    b,121Maybe you think you are so powerless that you will never be part of1ever creating anything different within the political realm that you obviosuly put so much stock into, leaving you to inflate consolation prizes like Obama into messiahs.
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    b,121Maybe I'll stop being the one to remind you of1these things every few1weeks.
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    b,121But probably not.1
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    b,121And maybe you will see past your nose long enough to see that you are as much a part of1the problem as anyone else, you self-centered, self-righteous demagogue. But probably not.
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    b,121All you know how to do is get under people's skin with your bullshit, if1everyone had a piece of1the pie you wouldn't have a windmill to tilt at and you would be miserable. You couldnt survive off the grid a day of1your life. I certainly don't think of1myself as powerless, but I am kinda glad that idiots like you will remain so. Hopefully you will muster up the courage to love your children enough to get off1your high horse and look reality in the face. Children will always have problems passed along....how is this news? When has it ever not been so? WTF does any of1this have1to do with the topic of1your thread??
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    b,121I repeat: GET OVER YOURSELF.1
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    b,121The topic of1the thread is why do you have faith that Obama is going to do diddley squat if1he's already punking out and openly supporting this most crimnal bail-out?
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    b,121Why do people act like it's cool that under Obama we bomb1the F*ck out of Afghanistan just as long as we let up a little on Iraq?
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    b,121And who are you calling powerless? Again, I see positive results of1my efforts on the daily. But it's still half-asses like you who are steady pinning productive people like me to the fringe.
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    b,121According to "people like you", screw making the piece-by-piece changes that are begging to be made around here. Let's put all of1our worth into bombing people overseas, poisoning people here, and bailing-out billionaire bankers.1
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    b,121Seriously, when do you people finally say enough is enough? Not just your candidate, but every one of1you who support him are so compromised that you practically no longer exist. And what the hell are y'all going to do if1God forbid y'all lose again?
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    b,121It pains me to see people donating their money to the Obama campaign. Dude's either gonna win or he isn't. If you haven't been paying attention...ever, it's not really up to us. And if all of1that money could instead be put int the hands of1people in the trenches actually making the changes needed...maybe y'all could then better spend your time than always looking for the next knee-jerk reaction to George Puppet Bush.
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    b,121I mean, F*ck...Obama isn't going to do shit to slow down the war on terror. He's clearly in on further f*cking us financially with this bail-out crap. And unless he's about to free thousands upon thousands of1people held in US jails over janky charges, he's got no more than a single righteous loogey to offset an ocean of wrongdoing when it comes to civil liberties.1
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    b,121But yeah, let's act like we're about to vote in Martin Luther King, Jr.1
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121I will say this, enough is enough. Let me know when you can stick to one topic. All this garbage about Obama being a messiah is coming straught out of your head.1If Obama loses, the sun still rises the next day. Your concern for those in jail is fine, but no political candidate is going to do shit for them. What on earth are you brayying about, Harvey? Honestly, you start a thread about why people would support a candidate you don't like and want to turn it into a debate about 8 million other things. You are the one saying it's like voting for MLK, you are the one accusing me personally of not being man enough, you are the one turning this thing into a complete farce. b,121b,121Enjoy your day.
  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
    I admit I'm taking a larger anger out on you, but you are playing the part to a tee. b,121b,121I'll fall back now.
  • SoulhawkSoulhawk 3,197 Posts
    Obama is ignoring Chemtrails!!!
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