Quote:/font1h,121b,121what about land? b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121If you're worried about the collapse of government than the land you "own" won't be worth the price of the paper your deed is written on.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121I'm glad I got a nice state gov't job this year. b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121watch out w/ that one. i just got laid off from mine. (we were funded by sales tax revenue. people ain't buyin shit!)b,121b,121this is also, my first day without a job since the age of 14 or so.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121what about land? b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121If you're worried about the collapse of government than the land you "own" won't be worth the price of the paper your deed is written on. b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121yeah i was thinking about that. but i dont see the government collapsing anytime too soon. we talking bout the economy going under first.
font class="post"1b,121b,121we're on the market for one that attaches right to yourt tap - any suggestions? I've been reading up and some of the best sounding systems are also the cheapest...should I be worried/wary? any recommnedations are greatly appreciated.b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121/font1
font class="post"1b,121b,121we're on the market for one that attaches right to yourt tap - any suggestions? I've been reading up and some of the best sounding systems are also the cheapest...should I be worried/wary? any recommnedations are greatly appreciated.b,121 b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121Not the kind of water purifiers I'm talking about, but for those that do attach to a tap...make sure they incorporate reverse osmosis/b1 as that gets rid of the added flouride/etc.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121what about land? b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121If you're worried about the collapse of government than the land you "own" won't be worth the price of the paper your deed is written on. b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121yeah i was thinking about that. but i dont see the government collapsing anytime too soon. we talking bout the economy going under first. b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121Yeah, but at what point will people say Fusk it when their paychecks stop coming.b,121b,121a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_shutdown" target="_blank"1http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_shutdown/a1
Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121what about land? b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121If you're worried about the collapse of government than the land you "own" won't be worth the price of the paper your deed is written on. b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121yeah i was thinking about that. but i dont see the government collapsing anytime too soon. we talking bout the economy going under first. b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121two reasons to not buy land right now:b,1211) the price of land is not quite as volatile as the price of homes right now, but it is still falling. there's no sense in investing in a resource that is losing its value, especially if you plan to hold it as a liquid asset.b,1212) if you do buy a piece of land, you would be offered an adjustable rate loan if you were offered a loan at all (as several people have stated, it's hard to get a loan right now.) although homes and mortgage backed securities are shit-tanking the economy right now, the fed is still worried about inflation (fuel prices, food, etc all are rising.) expect that rate to go up soon to combat inflationary pressure, which would make your adjustable rate loan be more and more expensive.b,121b,121overall- we are heading toward stagflation, even more pronounced than what occurred in the 1970s. This shit sucks.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121If the US monetary system is going down the tubes (as it is), it won't do much good to only save money for bad times to come. You gotta transfer that money into tangible items that will help you survive when the shit really does hit the fan. Water purifiers, camping stove and hella fuel, flashlights and hella batteries, knives, rifle/shotgun, etc. Not sure if America is really ready for it, but it's definitely teaching-the-horse-HOW-to-fish time right now. b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121Uh, let's not get carried away. We're talking recession possibly spiraling into depression, not the advent of a post-governmental Mad Max future of scant resources and tribal warlords.
HarveyCanal"a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
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Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121If the US monetary system is going down the tubes (as it is), it won't do much good to only save money for bad times to come. You gotta transfer that money into tangible items that will help you survive when the shit really does hit the fan. Water purifiers, camping stove and hella fuel, flashlights and hella batteries, knives, rifle/shotgun, etc. Not sure if America is really ready for it, but it's definitely teaching-the-horse-HOW-to-fish time right now. b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121Uh, let's not get carried away. We're talking recession possibly spiraling into depression, not the advent of a post-governmental Mad Max future of scant resources and tribal warlords. b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121Yeah dude, all this severe downswing will ever mean is that you're not going to be able to buy as many frivolous consumer items. b,121b,121 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/GetOnMyComp_gm.jpg" alt="" 21
Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121If the US monetary system is going down the tubes (as it is), it won't do much good to only save money for bad times to come. You gotta transfer that money into tangible items that will help you survive when the shit really does hit the fan. Water purifiers, camping stove and hella fuel, flashlights and hella batteries, knives, rifle/shotgun, etc. Not sure if America is really ready for it, but it's definitely teaching-the-horse-HOW-to-fish time right now. b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121Uh, let's not get carried away. We're talking recession possibly spiraling into depression, not the advent of a post-governmental Mad Max future of scant resources and tribal warlords. b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121img src="http://blogs.theage.com.au/screenplay/Mad Max.jpg"1
font class="post"1b,121b,121That first part is kinda unsettling:b,121b,121/font1
Quote:/font1h,121b,121A government shutdown occurs when a government discontinues providing services that are not considered "essential." Typically, essential services include police, fire fighting, armed forces, and corrections./b1 b,121b,121h,121
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Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121If the US monetary system is going down the tubes (as it is), it won't do much good to only save money for bad times to come. You gotta transfer that money into tangible items that will help you survive when the shit really does hit the fan. Water purifiers, camping stove and hella fuel, flashlights and hella batteries, knives, rifle/shotgun, etc. Not sure if America is really ready for it, but it's definitely teaching-the-horse-HOW-to-fish time right now. b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121Uh, let's not get carried away. We're talking recession possibly spiraling into depression, not the advent of a post-governmental Mad Max future of scant resources and tribal warlords. b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121Yeah dude, all this severe downswing will ever mean is that you're not going to be able to buy as many frivolous consumer items. b,121b,121 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/GetOnMyComp_gm.jpg" alt="" 21 b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121No thanks.
HarveyCanal"a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
Yes, preempt people from actually doing what they shoulda done when they were 10 years old and learn how to survive OFF OF THE GRID. Especially now that that grid is showing all sorts of signs of catastrophic collapse...make sure to shout down anyone suggesting that people get their houses in order by making allusions to a movie that you deem as silly. b,121b,121In other news, power generators sure are valuable in parts of Texas/Louisiana right now.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121Yes, preempt people from actually doing what they shoulda done when they were 10 years old and learn how to survive OFF OF THE GRID. Especially now that that grid is showing all sorts of signs of catastrophic collapse...make sure to shout down anyone suggesting that people get their houses in order by making allusions to a movie that you deem as silly. b,121b,121In other news, power generators sure are valuable in parts of Texas/Louisiana right now. b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doggie.gif" alt="" 21
Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121allusions to a movie that you deem as silly. b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121 b,121DEEMS MAD MAX 2: THE ROAD WARRIOR AS A "LIVING OFF THE GRID" TRAINING FILM b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121Not to mention a sequel better than the original (see Focused Election Thread)
HarveyCanal"a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
I just don't get what people get out of some of the shit they say. I mean, what's it to you if someone else invests in survival equipment while you're instead investing in My Little Pony dolls?b,121b,121Seriously, if the extent of your whining about the economy is that you'll be able to take one less vacation next year...sorry, but there are plenty of other people who will instead be figuring out how to keep fed and healthy.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121I just don't get what people get out of some of the shit they say. I mean, what's it to you if someone else invests in survival equipment while you're instead investing in My Little Pony dolls?b,121b,121Seriously, if the extent of your whining about the economy is that you'll be able to take one less vacation next year...sorry, but there are plenty of other people who will instead be figuring out how to keep fed and healthy. b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121I think it's sensible to be prepared for a natural disaster but if you're talking about a doomsday scenario in terms of complete gov't infrastructural collapse, I don't see any evidence that such an event is on the horizon. b,121b,121Sure, it's not a great economy right now - unemployment is over 6% for the first time in years - but it's not like we're back in the 1930s. We're not even in the late '70s yet. And just because Wall St. fucked up isn't threatening to collapse the entire financial system.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121I just don't get what people get out of some of the shit they say. I mean, what's it to you if someone else invests in survival equipment while you're instead investing in My Little Pony dolls?b,121b,121Seriously, if the extent of your whining about the economy is that you'll be able to take one less vacation next year...sorry, but there are plenty of other people who will instead be figuring out how to keep fed and healthy. b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121But that's just it???I didn't tell i1you[/i] not to invest in survival equipment. In fact, I'm not telling anyone what they should do. But you did tell others how they should allocate i1their[/i] money in preparation for what you perceive to be the coming crisis:b,121b,121/font1
Quote:/font1h,121b,121If the US monetary system is going down the tubes (as it is), it won't do much good to only save money for bad times to come. You gotta transfer that money into tangible items that will help you survive when the shit really does hit the fan. Water purifiers, camping stove and hella fuel, flashlights and hella batteries, knives, rifle/shotgun, etc. Not sure if America is really ready for it, but it's definitely teaching-the-horse-HOW-to-fish time right now. b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121I'm simply providing a counterperspective on the current situation. How others choose to interpret the current climate and respond to it is up to them.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121survive OFF OF THE GRID. b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121while I'm not sure I can do this fully, I damn well want to try in some aspects. I just bought a house, well, I'm in the last stages of it, and a goal for the first couple of years is to set up solar panels.b,121b,121Don't think I'm ready for the world of compost toilets or digging a well in the back, and half of what I eat I would need a greenhouse for, but there are baby steps I'd like to take in that direction.
A newspaper burns in the sand b,121And the headlines say 'Man Destroys Man' b,121Extra extra, read all the bad news b,121On the war for peace that everybody would lose b,121The rise and fall, the last great empire b,121The sound of the whole world caught on fire b,121The ruthless struggle, the desperate gamble b,121The game that left the whole world in shambles b,121The cheats, the lies, the alibies b,121And the foolish attempts to conquer the sky b,121Lost in space, and what is it worth? b,121Huh, the President just forgot about Earth b, 21Spendin multi-billions and maybe even trillions b,121The cost of weapons ran in the zillions b,121There's gold in the street and there's diamond under feet b,121And the children in Africa don't even eat b,121Flies on their faces, they're livin like mice b,121And their houses even make the ghetto look nice b,121Huh, the water tastes funny, it's forever too sunny b,121And they work all month and don't make no money b,121A fight for power, a nuclear shower b,121A people shout out in the darkest hour b, 21Sights unseen and voices unheard b,121And finally the bomb gets the last word b,121Christians killed Muslims and Germans killed Jews b,121And everybody's bodies are used and abused b,121Huh, minds are poisoned and souls are polluted b,121Superiority complex is deep rooted b,121Leeches and lices, and people got prices b,121Egomaniacs control the self-righteous b,121Nothin is sacred and nothin is pure b,121So the revelation of death is our cure b,121Peoples in terror, the leaders made a error b,121And now they can't even look in the mirror b,121Cause we gotta suffer while things get rougher b,121And that's the reason why we got to get tougher b,121So learn from the past and work for the future b,121And don't be a slave to no computer b,121Cause the children of Man inherit the land b,121And the future of the world is in your hands/b1
HarveyCanal"a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
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Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121I just don't get what people get out of some of the shit they say. I mean, what's it to you if someone else invests in survival equipment while you're instead investing in My Little Pony dolls?b,121b,121Seriously, if the extent of your whining about the economy is that you'll be able to take one less vacation next year...sorry, but there are plenty of other people who will instead be figuring out how to keep fed and healthy. b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121I think it's sensible to be prepared for a natural disaster but if you're talking about a doomsday scenario in terms of complete gov't infrastructural collapse, I don't see any evidence that such an event is on the horizon. b,121b,121Sure, it's not a great economy right now - unemployment is over 6% for the first time in years - but it's not like we're back in the 1930s. We're not even in the late '70s yet. And just because Wall St. fucked up isn't threatening to collapse the entire financial system. b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121I guess some still don't understand how much of a fraud our system of banking has been for the longest. It's not just a patch job that's going to just fix it up and have us back on our way. In truth, it's the con that has kept us afloat as all of our tangible industries have been exported over the past 3 decades. And since it is finally nothing more than a con revealed, the ramifications of its collapse simply cannot be underestimated. b,121b,121Get set for hyperinflation as the feds continue to throw worthless overprinted money at their problems. And again, when the facade of eternal success fades...we don't have much to fall back on. Oh yeah, we've got our weapons. So plaese do make sure to vote for McBama so that there will be no interruption in our sparking conflicts with countries including Russia, Iran, Venezuela, etc. b,121b, 21YEEHAW! WAR-DEPENDENT JOBS FOR ALL!
Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121I just don't get what people get out of some of the shit they say. I mean, what's it to you if someone else invests in survival equipment while you're instead investing in My Little Pony dolls?b,121b,121Seriously, if the extent of your whining about the economy is that you'll be able to take one less vacation next year...sorry, but there are plenty of other people who will instead be figuring out how to keep fed and healthy. b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121I think it's sensible to be prepared for a natural disaster but if you're talking about a doomsday scenario in terms of complete gov't infrastructural collapse, I don't see any evidence that such an event is on the horizon. b,121b,121Sure, it's not a great economy right now - unemployment is over 6% for the first time in years - but it's not like we're back in the 1930s. We're not even in the late '70s yet. And just because Wall St. fucked up isn't threatening to collapse the entire financial system. b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121I guess some still don't understand how much of a fraud our system of banking has been for the longest. It's not just a patch job that's going to just fix it up and have us back on our way. In truth, it's the con that has kept us afloat as all of our tangible industries have been exported over the past 3 decades. And since it is finally nothing more than a con revealed, the ramifications of its collapse simply cannot be underestimated. b,121b,121Get set for hyperinflation as the feds continue to throw worthless overprinted money at their problems. And again, when the facade of eternal success fades...we don't have much to fall back on. Oh yeah, we've got our weapons. So plaese do make sure to vote for McBama so that there will be no interruption in our sparking conflicts with countries including Russia, Iran, Venezuela, etc. b,121b, 21YEEHAW! WAR-DEPENDENT JOBS FOR ALL! b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121Ron Paul/Alex Jones Pablum
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