you all should be ashamed of yourselves for not considering whether this is technically manslaughter under the new york criminal code.
Truly unbelievable. I am in awe.
Folks are really out of line for discussing this situation like an actual tragedy that happened to real people, and not just another court exercise? In fact, those people are the ones who should be ashamed of themselves?
i wouldn't trade places with these dudes for a million dollars a year.
but what about for $59,588?
Police Academy (first six months): $25,100 (Annualized) Upon completion of six months: $32,700 Upon completion of 1 ?? years: $34,000 Upon completion of 2 ?? years: $38,000 Upon completion of 3 ?? years: $41,500 Upon completion of 4 ?? years: $44,100 Upon completion of 5 ?? years: $59,588
There is abosulutely no defense for that man being killed.....NONE......and to offer any defense of this verdict indicates you are completly disconnected from the real world.......God forbid your children should ever have to walk around in fear of the people that are supposed "to protect and serve" them .....God forbid a judge should let them be murdered in vain because they weren't "credible"
We've all seen, maybe have been involved in, situations like this. Roll to the club with your crew, drink a few too many brews. Get a little rowdy, maybe start jawing off at another crew, management, or the bouncers. 99.99% of the time, nothing happens and you stumble home. But I guess the equation changes if you're black and in NY.
the truest and saddest things I've read...even more so that it's not just NY
i wouldn't trade places with these dudes for a million dollars a year.
I know, they're like benevolent angels sent from Heaven to protect us, right?
Until you provide evidence that proves otherwise, the answer is yes.
this is what i am saying
we are criticizing a incompetent part of the police force...not all policemen
we are angry that bad practices lead to such tragedies
but even more frightning is the free pass that protects those at fault de facto
both intstutional flaws combined make for a pretty dangerous combination given todays society
hair splitting, trial-by-trial...these events should at least be a HUGE wake-up call to review the current institutionalized negligence that KILLS people
Have any of you read the verdict? It's on NYT in pdf format.
check out this quote (apologies for the format):
It is important to note that in analyzing what happened here, it was necessary to consider the mind-set of each defendant at the time and place of occurrence, and not the mind-set of the victims. What the victims did was more pertinent to resolving the issues of fact than what may have been in their minds. Also, carelessness and incompetence are not standards to be applied here, unless the conduct rises to the level of criminal acts, as defined by the law relating to each count charged.
Blood to the concrete, tears to soil And here's another word to make the other man foil War, raised on your planet to a caveboy oppressor Great one sends the aggressors Thought we weren't comin but it seems you made an error Wrench in the mill work, systematic terror has arrived Cornered by the order Checkmate sucker, not a move, game's over! Clocks bending backwards, many cannot get with me A logical man, I'm the epitome My Black folks travel hard with claws of steel Hearts kneel to the raw that speaks the deal Vanglorious, voice of the many Voice of the many of the man wanna get me It's not safari, so don't make a move Protection is the reason it's a different groove Sun up to sun down yo check the time Mystic magic is more than a rhyme I bring a little taste of the unearthed bass Problem with the truth? Then bring it to my face I'm outraged as I write the page A sun forged sword mince a wimp twelve gauge any day my son, I don't like guns I don't like roses that I step on for fun in the first place, 3rd Bass? I'm at home Waitin for the pitch so I can chrome your dome A Brother grand slam cuts a vine like butter Pick up my monkey and back to the mother On to the road to pimp the unpimpable The untouchable, doin the impossible Kill the world of the age it flees Ignorance swoops at the vulture's knee It's time to make a step, it's time to make a move Time for the nation, it's time for the groove
Oliver fired 31 shots in the incident, Isnora fired 11, and Cooper fired four times. Cooper fired wildly, with one of his shots even hitting an elevated airport train station
Oliver fired 31 shots in the incident, Isnora fired 11, and Cooper fired four times. Cooper fired wildly, with one of his shots even hitting an elevated airport train station
Oliver is the issue - he's the one that reloaded and kept firing and he's also the one that the family said showed no remorse at all.
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http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-15443
Truly unbelievable. I am in awe.
Folks are really out of line for discussing this situation like an actual tragedy that happened to real people, and not just another court exercise? In fact, those people are the ones who should be ashamed of themselves?
I don't think that it is we who lack shame.
I know, they're like benevolent angels sent from Heaven to protect us, right?
Until you provide evidence that proves otherwise, the answer is yes.
but what about for $59,588?
http://www.nypd2.org/html/recruit/salary.html
the truest and saddest things I've read...even more so that it's not just NY
this is what i am saying
we are criticizing a incompetent part of the police force...not all policemen
we are angry that bad practices lead to such tragedies
but even more frightning is the free pass that protects those at fault de facto
both intstutional flaws combined make for a pretty dangerous combination given todays society
hair splitting, trial-by-trial...these events should at least be a HUGE wake-up call to review the current institutionalized negligence that KILLS people
but nothing will change..yet again...
where are the facts!
check out this quote (apologies for the format):
makes me so sad.
*sigh* But I wish I could say I was surprised that this type of pathetic bullshit would happen on Soulstrut.
why not ?
And here's another word to make the other man foil
War, raised on your planet to a caveboy oppressor
Great one sends the aggressors
Thought we weren't comin but it seems you made an error
Wrench in the mill work, systematic terror has arrived
Cornered by the order
Checkmate sucker, not a move, game's over!
Clocks bending backwards, many cannot get with me
A logical man, I'm the epitome
My Black folks travel hard with claws of steel
Hearts kneel to the raw that speaks the deal
Vanglorious, voice of the many
Voice of the many of the man wanna get me
It's not safari, so don't make a move
Protection is the reason it's a different groove
Sun up to sun down yo check the time
Mystic magic is more than a rhyme
I bring a little taste of the unearthed bass
Problem with the truth? Then bring it to my face
I'm outraged as I write the page
A sun forged sword mince a wimp twelve gauge
any day my son, I don't like guns
I don't like roses that I step on for fun
in the first place, 3rd Bass? I'm at home
Waitin for the pitch so I can chrome your dome
A Brother grand slam cuts a vine like butter
Pick up my monkey and back to the mother
On to the road to pimp the unpimpable
The untouchable, doin the impossible
Kill the world of the age it flees
Ignorance swoops at the vulture's knee
It's time to make a step, it's time to make a move
Time for the nation, it's time for the groove
Quite simply because there are some jobs that I would not take for any amount of money and being a NYC cop is one of them.
my apologies. wasnt sure
Yeah, you just want to talk like a cop and then hide behind actual cops as they enforce your overbearing rules of life.
Yeah, I'm real fluent in "cop talk".
Actually, I wouldn't want the responsibility of protecting assholes like you who disrespect all authority and the justice system as a whole.
Nice
No cop has ever "protected" me.
Plus, why should "authority" be respected? Simply because it demands it unreasonably?
Respect is to be earned.
I was 15 once too.
Oliver is the issue - he's the one that reloaded and kept firing and he's also the one that the family said showed no remorse at all.
The other two officers were following orders.
it's ok, I don't think Rodney O minds.