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Is this going to accomplish anything or is it just one big dog and pony show for the public? "we are currently in an up cycle." 
What a surprise.It took $50 fuckin dollars to fill up a little more than half my tank today.In February, the House voted to end tax credits for the oil companies and shift the resulting revenue to funding renewable resources such as wind, solar and geothermal energy. President Bush has said he will veto the bill if it gets to his desk.[/b]
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Thats ME YO!
Ha, that is definitely a bad look whoever dude is - but yo, 123 BILLION in profits in one year? Fuck this shit. People better put the Xbox controller down and take to the streets. They keep pushing and pushing the public and eventually something is gonna give.
i'm guilty of 2 of the 3
oh man, there is no real funny set up or gag in this picture but I can't stop laughing. He looks like someone smashed him into 2D.
Yes!
In Finland a gallon of gas costs around $9.20. They should raise the price even more.
I'm probably inevitable, but $9 gas would put a lot of people out of business. The USA was built on cheap gas and big cars among other questionable things.
Yay on limiting casual drivers in the city on a weekday; yay on forcing westchester, LI and NJ commuters who drive in (and can afford/are provided parking) to use public transportation.
Nay on delivery trucks, livery, and small business dudes having to pay $8 to get in every day...
I run a small business that totally relies on my car (1.L VW Polo) and a combination of reduced spending by my clients and petrol prices are killing me !!! Just glad I don't live in London and have to pay the congestion charge !!!
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if the united states does not undertake a project the size of the apollo moon launch or the manhattan project this shit will hit the fan
I felt this way too until recently. Needless to say I work less than 5 miles from my house. I fill up every week and a half and an extra $10 or so jump doesn't really take a bite.
My girl recently got a job at a mental health facility about 30 miles away though. She used to work only 3 miles away. She drives a little shitbox Hyundai and she's putting $60-80 a week into her tank now. She's grinding her teeth at every price jump and fearing the summer travel price gouge.
We feel that.
MCF
Hail the fuel cell. My friend helped with this:
Fuel Cell Morgan
Yeah, it's really not a matter simply of 'laza Americans need to get off their asses and walk', it is a pretty complex dynamic at play. The only positive side of high fuel prices is that INDUSTRY and BUSINESS in the country sits up and takes notice to the point where something gets done to rectify both the long and short term problems. You have huge lobbies like the trucking industry who have taken great pains to make sure the system is set up to benefit them, only to find that they are looking at a trucking meltdown with the costs involved now, and that's just ONE industry. This is a major crisis brewing, not to be a doomsayer, but both sides of the political aisle need to stop stumping for their constituency(Dems and their 'hang the oil executives' strategy and the GOP giving them the store in terms of tax breaks) and come up with some ideas that address the real shit. We are too dependent on this, we need something viable for the long haul.
haha....bozo my ass. this is EXACTLY why i want to see raised prices of gasoline. no one in this country is gonna move toward sustainability as long as we have artificially low gas prices. we pay for it anyway with subsidized highway infrastructure,etc. and there are plenty of damages that come along with the cherished convenience of a cheap fuel economy.
but thanks for assuming my complete and utter ignorance about our food systems reliance on oil. this is practically all i think about. did you now that most of our fertilizrs and pesticides that are the backbone of beloved agribusiness are oil based? their disastrous "greenrevolution" monocropping nonsense is gonna fall apart too. oops! another "all the eggs in one basket" situation about to get fucked up. we should have done what Cuba started to do and broke down the majority of our huge farms into diverse organic holdings.
havent you noticed all the "fools" in country and cities across america who are trying to establish community gardens and local food infrastructure? you think its cause they are bozos? i know a dozen people my age in west philly who tend bees and/or have chicken coops in west philly. you think they are practicing that type of thing cause it gets chicks?? the things that need to get subsidized are the attempts at reestablishing local food economies...the more we insist on stubbornly sticking to cheap oil economy, the more we put off having any type of alternative infrsatructure in the case that the system we are completely dependent on falls the fuck apart.
aaron, i know, shit is real and shit sucks and its going to hurt the poor and people on the bubble first and hardest. i see a lot greater hurt down the road if people dont snap out of their cheap oil reality. there has been nothing cheap about our oil economy up to this point...its just that you dont pay for it at the pump, you pay for it environomentally and through indirect ways that you dont immediately feel (taxes)
ahh shit, im rambling, ive been up all night.
all i want for christmas is the collapse of the oil economy.
out
an interesting way to look at it is that this is a civil rights issue. with so many communities (memphis, detroit, atlanta) dependent on a car culture because of sprawled out city planning and a stone age transportation system, if you dont have a car, you are shut out and isolated. infrastructure is created with public funds that does not consider the mobility and access issues of the young, the old, the poor and the handicapped...and illegals who are blocked from getting licenses.
what do most teens dream of??? getting a car. freedom of mobility and independence. our society's coming of age ritual is getting the keys to the car. marinate on that for a second and tell me we aren't a doomed species.
and rey, i hope youre joking about the prison thing, but thats most likely the reality. police state coming if we arent careful. oh wait, we have the highest incarceration rates in the world...guess we are already there.someone please tell me different
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/05/monsanto200805
let it crumble
who hasnt started planning?
no one said anything about cold turkey. cutting off oil supply would be cold turkey. what we need is transitioning. oil crisis in the 70s pushed solar and sustainability issues into mainstream discourse and got people moving on it.
"ridiculously high gas prices" in line with what the rest of the world (besides Venezuela and a couple other special cases) pays. I would argue that our prices are ridiculously low and we pay for them anyway in many indirect ways.
regarding your nickel bag analogy...i can only offer that it has nothing to do with the argument, shows you dont really want to talk about this seriously, and that you probably take way too many bong hits.
dude, did you not get the oil/drug as in dependence/addiction prices/arresting analogy? Man you are too smart for me...Im done...
but not quite...thanks for insulting my intelligence and my character...glad you arent staying here at my house like you asked if you could this weekend...I wouldnt want a Frickin' lecture on how my compost heap out back isnt big enough...
I mean, I agree that we should be using something other than oil to fuel our economy/way of life...but under the current circumstances, raising gas prices any more than a dollar from where they are now will cause nothing but catostrophic chaos for us and just the economic/social environment that those in power want in order to complete their well-documented plans to subvert this nation into a slave state.
Those same folks who are currently forced to eat Fast Food??
At least now they'll get some excersize riding their bike or walking to MickeyD's.