YO. who is not surprised by this?

djannadjanna 1,543 Posts
edited July 2005 in Strut Central
Head of American Apparel charged with sexual harrassment, from the NY Times. Dov "Could I look any sleazier?" CharneyHis Way Meets a Highway Called CourtBy MIREYA NAVARROPublished: July 10, 2005LOS ANGELESTHERE is no question that Dov Charney is an unconventional chief executive.As the founder of American Apparel, the T-shirt and casual wear chain sometimes called an alternative Gap, Mr. Charney decorates stores with covers of Penthouse and Oui magazines from the 70's, admits in interviews to engaging in sexual relationships with women who work for him, and once exposed himself for an ad in a gay magazine, all in the name of personal freedom.American Apparel promotes itself as "sweatshop free" and stresses that its products are "made in downtown L.A.," anomalies in an industry often criticized for outsourcing jobs and paying poverty wages. And consumers are attracted to the company's reasonably priced T-shirts and underwear, along with its hipster aesthetic of soft-core pornography, which have made Mr. Charney's business hugely profitable.According to some former employees, however, sex is used for more than selling clothes at American Apparel. In two separate sexual harassment lawsuits, three plaintiffs who worked on American Apparel's administrative and sales staffs charge that they endured sexual misconduct and innuendo and an environment in which women did not feel safe.The culprit, they say, is Mr. Charney, 36, a retailing maverick from Montreal, who founded the company in 1997 and now has 4,500 employees, more than 50 stores in five countries and annual sales of $250 million.The suits, filed in the last six weeks in Los Angeles Superior Court by a sales manager, a recruiter and a trade show coordinator, accuse Mr. Charney of behavior that ranges from inappropriate to bizarre.Among the allegations: using crude language and gestures, conducting job interviews in his underwear, ordering the hiring of women in whom he had a sexual interest and giving one of the plaintiffs a vibrator.In court papers Mr. Charney denied all the allegations. And in an e-mailed statement he said, "In my opinion their lawsuits are a false attempt to extort money from my company and exploit my transparent persona."His lawyer, Andrew B. Kaplan, said Mr. Charney "will vigorously defend these lawsuits" and that the evidence will show that no sexual harassment occurred. "What they're trying to do," Mr. Kaplan said of the plaintiffs, "is use Mr. Charney's openness about his sexuality as a weapon against him."Even under the murkiest of he-said, she-said circumstances, Mr. Charney's management style runs counter to American cultural and business norms and has left him vulnerable to the kind of claims he faces now, workplace experts and some of Mr. Charney's supporters said.For instance, he takes many of the suggestive pictures and body-part close-ups of women, some of them also employees, that decorate his stores.And in an article in Jane magazine last summer, Mr. Charney was described as engaging in oral sex with a female employee and masturbating in front of the writer several times with the writer's acquiescence.Mr. Charney, in a telephone interview, said that citing the article, as well as referring to his nudity in ads and his provocative photo displays in stores are "not journalism but sensationalism" when used in the context of the lawsuits. He said that he has the right to be his company's model and to pose nude, which he said is a "salute" to contemporary adult and sexual freedom.He said his ads are regarded as trend-setting and appreciated by American Apparel's young customers. Mr. Charney added that "any sexual activities described in the Jane article were, A, consensual; B, enjoyable for both parties; and C, occurred in a private setting and therefore are not relevant to the sexual harassment charges."Finally, he said, he does not believe consensual relationships between adults should be restrained in the workplace.The women suing Mr. Charney and American Apparel are not alleging that he pressured them for sex. What they say in their lawsuits is that they faced a "wholly intolerable" and "intimidating" work atmosphere that subjected them to "egregious" sexual comments and behavior.One of the women, Heather Pithie, who worked at American Apparel as a recruiter between June 2004 and last March, charges that Mr. Charney referred to women in vulgar derogatory and sexual terms. She says in her suit that she was "terrified" of being alone with him.She said he once called her into his office with a co-worker and gave them both vibrators, saying, "It's great during sex." At another time, the lawsuit says, Ms. Pithie was recruiting in Los Angeles when Mr. Charney instructed her to talk to a young woman because she was "hot." He offered the woman a job on the spot, she said.Another plaintiff, Rebecca Brinegar, who coordinated trade shows and worked in customer service between December 2002 and last January, charges that Mr. Charney exposed himself "in the nude in front of her." The third woman, Mary Nelson, 33, a sales manager from November 2003 to January, said in her lawsuit that he invited her to masturbate with him.Ms. Pithie and Ms. Brinegar, who filed a joint lawsuit and are represented by Gloria Allred, the well-known women's rights lawyer, said they quit their jobs. Ms. Nelson, who is represented by Keith A. Fink, said she was fired after Mr. Charney learned she intended to see a lawyer.Mr. Charney directed a reporter to staff members who in interviews said Ms. Nelson was a poor sales performer and that neither she nor the other women had complained of harassment before they left. (Their lawsuits refute this.) The employees said that some of the women's allegations seem to misconstrue or take out of context things that are done in jest or have a valid explanation.Pat Honda, a customer service manager, said it is not unusual for Mr. Charney to be seen in his underwear in his office because he tries out products before they are introduced. "We're a manufacturer," she said. "We make underwear."Alexandra Spunt, a writer in the company's art department, said crude language comes from all quarters. "We all use it," she said. "We're working in a creative department in the fashion business."Employment lawyers not connected to the suits said companies risk not only litigation but fines by state and federal agencies for sexual harassment when they subject staff to unwanted verbal or physical conduct of a sexual nature that a reasonable person would find offensive. Allison Michael, a lawyer with Jones Day in Los Angeles who defends companies against sexual harassment cases, called the acts attributed to Mr. Charney in the lawsuits "pretty extreme."Richard H. Koppes, also a Jones Day lawyer and a corporate governance expert, said laws governing the workplace have become more restrictive over the years, and that many companies spend a good deal of time making sure that "the tone at the top" is appropriate, ethical and legal. "It sounds like there's no adult presence at that company," he said of American Apparel. "The workplace is not a playground."But there is little sympathy for the plaintiffs among at least some in the apparel industry. "If you're seasick, don't join the Navy," said Ilse Metchek, the executive director of the California Fashion Association, a trade group Mr. Charney belongs to. "Yes, he's a bizarre person, but that's no secret," she said. "It's there for you to see when you sign on for this opportunity.""I couldn't work there, but I wouldn't even apply," she added. "Why would I presume to change the work habits of the owner of a private company. Does the name 'Hooters' say
anything to you?"Ms. Metchek said that publicity about the cases is unlikely to hurt American Apparel because of its young customer base. "Frankly, many customers want to be one of those models," she said, referring to the photographs in stores.Until recently, about the worst criticisms hurled at Mr. Charney were accusations that he had resisted a unionization drive at his Los Angeles factory. He is often held up as a model for other manufacturers, winning entrepreneurial awards and government commendations for keeping all operations in the United States. He also offers above-minimum wages, health benefits, subsidized lunches and English classes for his workforce, which is mostly Hispanic.Julie Su, the litigation director of the Asian Pacific American Legal Center of Southern California, which represents garment workers, said Mr. Charney and American Apparel stand as an example that challenges the status quo."The point his business plan makes," Ms. Su said, "is that you can produce goods in the United States, pay workers well and still make a profit."She said that if the sexual harassment allegations were true, Mr. Charney should be held accountable, but added, "It's a shame because it would take away from the positive he's done."Employees like Ms. Honda and Ms. Spunt say they work in an environment that is "exciting" and "high-energy," fostering creativity and the feeling of being part of a unique and rapidly growing company. But some former employees say that they were also made to feel like sex objects.Hannah Rappleye, an 18-year-old sophomore at New School University who worked as a sales associate in an American Apparel store in New York for about three months this year, said she had no complaints and left her job on her own volition last May. But she said she would never seek to work at American Apparel again.Mr. Charney's first words to her during one of his visits, she said, were "You look hot today." And when she expressed her objections to a sexually explicit picture on a store wall, her colleagues laughed it off, she said."At first they make you feel special," Ms. Rappleye said. "If you were chosen to work for the company, that meant that you were attractive enough to sell sex successfully.""But after a while," she said, "it feels disgusting."
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  • mylatencymylatency 10,475 Posts
    ouch



    off topic, did you go to breakfast with dizz and iron?

  • djannadjanna 1,543 Posts
    yes, twas good. were you not called? blame DB. bastard.

  • mylatencymylatency 10,475 Posts
    I blame DB.

    'sall good
    I was busy buying the CDs I missed last night and trying to get my laundry done, lol.

  • twoplytwoply Only Built 4 Manzanita Links 2,914 Posts
    The guy has always seemed like a sleazeball to me and I'm sure what these women encountered was indeed sexual harrassment, but this comment about sums up my attitude:


    "If you're seasick, don't join the Navy," said Ilse Metchek, the executive director of the California Fashion Association... "I couldn't work there, but I wouldn't even apply," she added. "Why would I presume to change the work habits of the owner of a private company. Does the name 'Hooters' say anything to you?"




  • That moustache says it all...

  • HAZHAZ 3,376 Posts

    The culprit, they say, is Mr. Charney, 36, a retailing maverick from Montreal

    Montreal in tha house!!!!

    h

  • gloomgloom 2,765 Posts
    giving one of the plaintiffs a vibrator

    christmas bonus?

  • FatbackFatback 6,746 Posts
    this is all prolly good for business.




  • I had never heard of them, but I just ordered a tshirt!

    He sounds like the Larry Flynt for our generation!

    Peace...
    FNM

  • DubiousDubious 1,865 Posts
    yeah this all seems pretty pointless to me... the quote about Hooters sums it up nicely... i mean it's kind of like working for Playboy and then complaining that there's too many naked chicks around.




  • DelayDelay 4,530 Posts

    The culprit, they say, is Mr. Charney, 36, a retailing maverick from Montreal

    Montreal in tha house!!!!

    h
    Honestly, if I grew up in Montreal, I'd be a pervet too.

  • CosmoCosmo 9,768 Posts
    Hey, I pretty much want to have sex with every girl I see on American Apparel ads... can't be TOO mad at the dude.

  • catchdubscatchdubs 492 Posts
    Hey, I pretty much want to have sex with every girl I see on American Apparel ads... can't be TOO mad at the dude.

    REAL SPEAK

    what's really surprising is how a court of law hasn't charged him with ripping off terry richardson wholesale - from the photos to the moustache.






  • CosmoCosmo 9,768 Posts
    Hey, I pretty much want to have sex with every girl I see on American Apparel ads... can't be TOO mad at the dude.

    REAL SPEAK

    what's really surprising is how a court of law hasn't charged him with ripping off terry richardson wholesale - from the photos to the moustache.



    EVEN REALER SPEAK!

  • rootlesscosmorootlesscosmo 12,848 Posts


    Dov means "bear" in Hebrew.

    Just sayin.

  • DubiousDubious 1,865 Posts
    well since they sell terry richardson's books i nthe stores i think they have an agreement worked out.


  • djannadjanna 1,543 Posts
    well since they sell terry richardson's books i nthe stores i think they have an agreement worked out.


    HA! awesome.

  • AserAser 2,351 Posts
    terry richardson

    ewwwwww!

  • edith headedith head 5,106 Posts
    am i the only one who thinks that terry richardson is overrated

  • CosmoCosmo 9,768 Posts
    am i the only one who thinks that terry richardson is overrated

    Nope. Dude is mad overrated.

  • DubiousDubious 1,865 Posts
    terry richardson is so beyond overrated it boggles the mind.. a new catergory of wanker needs to be created for him and that fool wolfgang tillmans... ugh

    well actually about 90% of "art" photographers.








  • DelayDelay 4,530 Posts
    terry richardson

    keeping Polaroid?? in business since 1999

  • bassiebassie 11,710 Posts
    am i the only one who thinks that terry richardson is overrated



    no, me too.



    ryan mcginley (sp?) as well.

  • DubiousDubious 1,865 Posts
    why not just list all Vice associated photographers past and present then.

    i wonder if its just me but i think i've come to the conclusion that photography is the most pretentious and consistently overrated "artform" on the planet.


  • DJPrestigeDJPrestige 1,710 Posts
    yeah this all seems pretty pointless to me... the quote about Hooters sums it up nicely... i mean it's kind of like working for Playboy and then complaining that there's too many naked chicks around.




    yeah.. um.. hef..could you have those girls put on a shirt or something......?

  • mylatencymylatency 10,475 Posts
    am i the only one who thinks that terry richardson is overrated

    Nope. Dude is mad overrated.


    I like that dude's work. It's fun. It's not the highest art evar but it's funny and kind of disturbing.

    Wow this turned into a photography thread!

  • edith headedith head 5,106 Posts
    why not just list all Vice associated photographers past and present then.

    i wonder if its just me but i think i've come to the conclusion that photography is the most pretentious and consistently overrated "artform" on the planet.


    i agree with you completely and i am someone who loves taking photographs.

  • bassiebassie 11,710 Posts
    why not just list all Vice associated photographers past and present then.

    i wonder if its just me but i think i've come to the conclusion that photography is the most pretentious and consistently overrated "artform" on the planet.


    I know what you mean, when the market gets flooded with all these Nan Goldin look-at-how-fucked-up-and-naked-my-friends-are rip-offs - it gets pretty tired pretty fast.

    I do think Ansel Adams' and Andre Serrano's photos are amazing, though.




  • DJPrestigeDJPrestige 1,710 Posts
    you mean you don't like the constant barrage of terry richardson's genitalia in various states, or the polaroid stylings of ryan mcginley's homo erotic adventures?

    that was said with as much sarcasm as i could muster up...


  • FatbackFatback 6,746 Posts
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