MOURN THE LOSS OF LOCAL TV PROGRAMING

kalakala 3,361 Posts
edited February 2008 in Strut Central
back in the day channel 5 WNET would be killin' it right about now with some Kung Fu Flicksor some crazy ass low brow monster shit like the thing with 2 headscartoons all morning and then dope flix until nightcable was heiled as some next level shit but "the people" never really got their hands on it -CLEAR CHANNEL?let me run that shitThe Groovie Ghouliesthe mighty heroesfat albert cartoonsjackson 5 cartoonsbanana splitsSOUL TRAIN 72shaw brothers/sonny chiba/bruce lee 3-7pmmod squadgreen hornetjames brown tv specialdon kirshner's rock concertsctv/snlmore monster/horror flicks

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  • LeftyLefty 259 Posts
    rip

  • rip

    4 reeeelzz!

  • I'm mourning the loss of REAL local TV programming - not just reruns of defunct TV shows (that was cool, too), but actual programs produced for that channel in that town and no one else.

    In Chicago in the seventies, it was all about:
    - Horror movie host Svengoolie (and later the Son of Svengoolie)
    - Soul Train, Red, Hot & Blue, Soul Of The City (local TV soul dance party shows)
    - Popeye With Steve Hart (local puppeteer who showed Popeye cartoons)
    - B.J. & the Dirty Dragon, Gigglesnort Hotel (two local children's shows...although Gigglesnort was later syndicated in Texas)
    - Jubilee Showcase (music show featuring black gospel acts)
    - Rock Of Ages (gospel variety show)
    - Ray Rayner and Garfield Goose (the godfathers of Chicago kidvid)

    I guess cable access is the next best thing these days, although the TV guides don't list 'em...

  • JRootJRoot 861 Posts
    I'm mourning the loss of REAL local TV programming - not just reruns of defunct TV shows (that was cool, too), but actual programs produced for that channel in that town and no one else.

    I'm with you. This is what's really sad.

    The only true local TV programming around here is channel 25, which is a freaky religious channel. I watch it just to get that flavor. And when it happens that it's a dad taking his 15 y.o. daughter out for her first deer hunt and they miss the big buck and then he prays and the big buck miraculously comes back and the daughter bags the buck, it's kinda magic.

    Also astounding is the talk show hosted by that blind lady.

  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
    Old School NY/NJ

    Officer Joe Bolton - Hosted Three Stooges clips every weekday afternoon

    Captain Jack McCarthy - Usually drunk dude that hosted Popeye cartoons

    Wonderama - Saturday morning kids show hosted first by Sonny Fox and later by Bob McCallister....saw the obscure band Gunhill Road on this show in the early 70's.

    Sandy Becker Show - Insane guy with puppets and characters

    Chuck McCann Show - same as above

    Claude Kirshner & Clownie - Saturday morning kids show that features Crusader Rabbit cartoons

    Diver Dan - Insane action show shot entirely in someone's fish tank.

    Uncle Floyd - 70's kids style show for stoned adults

  • I'm mourning the loss of REAL local TV programming - not just reruns of defunct TV shows (that was cool, too), but actual programs produced for that channel in that town and no one else.

    I'm with you. This is what's really sad.

    The only true local TV programming around here is channel 25, which is a freaky religious channel. I watch it just to get that flavor. And when it happens that it's a dad taking his 15 y.o. daughter out for her first deer hunt and they miss the big buck and then he prays and the big buck miraculously comes back and the daughter bags the buck, it's kinda magic.

    Also astounding is the talk show hosted by that blind lady.

    Until 1996 or so, this was what WCIU-Channel 26 (in Chicago) was like. Now they're basically like a free, 24-hr. Nick At Nite, but in the eighties and early nineties they were all about the low-budget religious and ethnic programming.

  • ElectrodeElectrode Los Angeles 3,129 Posts
    Sometimes I wish I grew up in the peak of this era. There must have been hundreds of late-night movies, TV shows and TV movies, not available on DVD or VHS, that have been lost to time and obscurity. I'm sure most of them were crap, but there must have been some gems in there. Now all I have around these parts are church services preached in Armenian and reruns of F-Troop.

  • Old School NY/NJ

    Officer Joe Bolton - Hosted Three Stooges clips every weekday afternoon

    Captain Jack McCarthy - Usually drunk dude that hosted Popeye cartoons

    Wonderama - Saturday morning kids show hosted first by Sonny Fox and later by Bob McCallister....saw the obscure band Gunhill Road on this show in the early 70's.

    Uncle Floyd - 70's kids style show for stoned adults


    I remember all of these. Jack McCarthy used to host the St. Patricks Day parade on Channel 11 every year.


  • - Ray Rayner (the godfather of Chicago kidvid)

    i did the all tile work in ray rahners sons house, hes an optomitrist(SP?) .
    he's a helluva nice guy. he had some nice stories about when his dad (ray rahner) was at WGN theyd get box seats at all the sporting events and perks like that. Hes a serious guy and a dr. i couldnt imagine him having a parent like that..

  • Sometimes I wish I grew up in the peak of this era. There must have been hundreds of late-night movies, TV shows and TV movies, not available on DVD or VHS, that have been lost to time and obscurity. I'm sure most of them were crap, but there must have been some gems in there.

    I remember going into the tape vault (read "basement") of the station I used to worked for, and along with various tapes of "Home Improvement" and "Frasier" were a lot of older shows from the 70's, along with archived news broadcasts. I live in a "small market" area, and most of these tapes are supposed to have been returned. However, most stations go through tape accumulation, and most are generally dumped, but a few are saved with the station not knowing what they have. I would assume most of the large market stations are either in the process of digitizing them or have already archived everything, but when a certain actor or actress or musician comes into town, that footage is generally saved because it has good replay value. In the DVD era, companies/producers often look for this footage and if someone has it, they will either buy it or pay a fee to use it. Unfortunately, most stations didn't see a value in a lot of it, so like recording studios, they would just run it through a bulking machine and everything was erased in seconds. That's why a lot of great television performances are lost, with the exception of a few who may have made secret dubs, or did some dumpster diving.

    However, for the late night production crew at a station who may know about the tape vault, they may do a bit of hunting and may be the ones who transfer it to a hard drive and upload it to Karagarga or something. One can also go thrift store hunting and take chances on the $1 VHS and Beta tapes, hoping for some really twisted local programming. Or even something as simple as Hulk Hogan playing bass while Mean Gene Okerlund sings "Tutti Frutti", that was classic.

    "Hawaiian Moving Company", "Filipino Fiesta", the Hawaiian version of "TV POWWW" with Professor Fun, "Checkers & Pogo", man.

  • the Hawaiian version of "TV POWWW" with Professor Fun, "Checkers & Pogo", man.

    Hold it, hold it...is this the same "TV Pow" I'm thinking of? Where a voice-activated ping-pong ball would bounce across the screen? Y'all had this too, huh! If so, Ray Rayner had that in the Chi! And among the prizes for kids who won was a 12" disco single of Robert Gillaume ("Benson" from the TV show Soap) singing "I Who Have Nothing"!

    (TV Pow was this pre-video game that Ray Rayner would feature on his show in the late seventies...he'd call up some kid who sent in a postcard with their phone number, and all they had to do was say "pow" in order to get the ball to cross the screen at the right moment.)

  • the Hawaiian version of "TV POWWW" with Professor Fun, "Checkers & Pogo", man.

    Hold it, hold it...is this the same "TV Pow" I'm thinking of? Where a voice-activated ping-pong ball would bounce across the screen? Y'all had this too, huh! If so, Ray Rayner had that in the Chi! And among the prizes for kids who won was a 12" disco single of Robert Gillaume ("Benson" from the TV show Soap) singing "I Who Have Nothing"!

    (TV Pow was this pre-video game that Ray Rayner would feature on his show in the late seventies...he'd call up some kid who sent in a postcard with their phone number, and all they had to do was say "pow" in order to get the ball to cross the screen at the right moment.)

    That would be the one. There was a station in the Bay Area that was shown in Hawai'i, channel 2. Don't remember the call letters, but their slogan was "there's only one 2" (after checking Wikipedia, it was KTVU). But that's where I had seen TV POWWW first, and about a year later we had our version. Every week I entered, hoping for a chance to play, only to say "POW POW POW" a bunch of times. I believe the cut-off age was 13, so I stuffed the entry form box and still I never got a chance.

    There was a point where the game was slightly different, it wasn't just that circle going around in space shooting at ships, it was a bit more technical (in a 1982 sense). But I guess sometimes it didn't work, so they went back to the old one. There was one episode where a kid played, and he thought he had the formula by doing a machine gun-styled "POWPOWPOWPOWPOWPOWPOWPOWPOWPOWPOWPOWPOWPOWPOWPOWPOWPOW" performance. It ended up only shooting 8 times in 30 seconds, Professor Fun laughed and the kid was angry that he didn't get 150 points.

    Anyway, after checking Wikipedia, it says the game came from the Fairchild Channel F system. Check out the stats:


    * CPU chip: Fairchild F8 operating at 1.79 MHz (PAL 2.22MHz)
    * RAM: 64 bytes, 2 KB VRAM (2??128??64 bits)
    * Resolution: 128 ?? 64 pixels, 102 ?? 58 pixels visible
    * Colors: eight colors (either black/white or four color max. per line)
    * Audio: 500 Hz, 1 kHz, and 1.5 kHz tones (can be modulated quickly to produce different tones)
    * Input: two custom game controllers, hardwired to the console
    * Output: RF modulated composite video signal, cord hardwired to console



    Back then, that was interactive at its best.

    Well, before 976 numbers.

  • the Hawaiian version of "TV POWWW" with Professor Fun, "Checkers & Pogo", man.

    Hold it, hold it...is this the same "TV Pow" I'm thinking of? Where a voice-activated ping-pong ball would bounce across the screen? Y'all had this too, huh! If so, Ray Rayner had that in the Chi! And among the prizes for kids who won was a 12" disco single of Robert Gillaume ("Benson" from the TV show Soap) singing "I Who Have Nothing"!

    (TV Pow was this pre-video game that Ray Rayner would feature on his show in the late seventies...he'd call up some kid who sent in a postcard with their phone number, and all they had to do was say "pow" in order to get the ball to cross the screen at the right moment.)


    Known in New York as TV PIX (On WPIX-11), with little kids trying to beat the game by shouting PIX PIX PIX PIX PIX PIX PIX PIX PIX PIX PIX PIX PIX PIX PIX PIX PIX PIX PIX PIX PIX ..

  • [color: green] There was one episode where a kid played, and he thought he had the formula by doing a machine gun-styled "POWPOWPOWPOWPOWPOWPOWPOWPOWPOWPOWPOWPOWPOWPOWPOWPOWPOW" performance. It ended up only shooting 8 times in 30 seconds, Professor Fun laughed and the kid was angry that he didn't get 150 points.[/color]

    It was amazing how many kids didn't have the voice power at 7 AM to get that ball 'cross the screen. More than once, you'd hear some feeble "pow," like they weren't even trying (did the time delay throw off their game?). I remember once some kid hit on the magic formula by accident - after going "pow-p-p-pow!" and seeing it work, he did it a few more times and wound up winning. I would have figured that the rest of the audience would have caught on to this and started going "pow-p-p-pow" as well, but that wasn't happening.

  • The_NonThe_Non 5,691 Posts
    I don't know if this counts as local, but I remember this show:



    But nobody I know remembers it. Anyone?

  • ^Yeah, it's Steampipe Alley, and that dude is Mario Cantone. Cantone...Steampipe.


    Known in New York as TV PIX (On WPIX-11), with little kids trying to beat the game by shouting PIX PIX PIX PIX PIX PIX PIX PIX PIX PIX PIX PIX PIX PIX PIX PIX PIX PIX PIX PIX PIX ..

    Also via WPIX/Channel 11:

  • back in the day channel 5 WNET would be killin' it right about now with some Kung Fu Flicks
    or some crazy ass low brow monster shit like the thing with 2 heads
    cartoons all morning and then dope flix until night
    cable was heiled as some next level shit but "the people" never really got their hands on it -CLEAR CHANNEL?


    let me run that shit

    The Groovie Ghoulies
    the mighty heroes
    fat albert cartoons
    jackson 5 cartoons
    banana splits
    SOUL TRAIN 72
    shaw brothers/sonny chiba/bruce lee 3-7pm
    mod squad
    green hornet
    james brown tv special
    don kirshner's rock concert
    sctv/snl
    more monster/horror flicks

    channel 48 in philly: creature double feature

    channel 17 in philly: ultraman

    RIP yes indeed

  • I had the honor of seeing Uncle Floyd live, surrounded by 300 piss-drunk Bergen County lawyers, lobbyists, cops andpoliticians. Ranks up there as one of the stranger experiences of my life. I want to know if anyone has THIS...


  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
    I had the honor of seeing Uncle Floyd live, surrounded by 300 piss-drunk Bergen County lawyers, lobbyists, cops andpoliticians. Ranks up there as one of the stranger experiences of my life. I want to know if anyone has THIS...


    Got it


  • I don't know if this counts as local, but I remember this show:



    But nobody I know remembers it. Anyone?

    I see your 'Steampipe Alley' and I raise you with 'Weinerville'...



  • cpeetzcpeetz 2,112 Posts
    In Oregon as a kid it was all about Ramblin' Rod, the local kids show:



    http://www.platypuscomix.net/fpo/history/ramblinrod.html

    And Bumpity was cool too, I watched that after Davey and Goliath on Sundays...


  • dollar_bindollar_bin I heartily endorse this product and/or event 2,326 Posts
    There was a station in the Bay Area that was shown in Hawai'i, channel 2. Don't remember the call letters, but their slogan was "there's only one 2" (after checking Wikipedia, it was KTVU).

    Wow, they rebroadcast KTVU in Hawaii? Then you might also remember Bits and Pieces



    Bay Area heads, activate time machine here (mp4 audio link)
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