Digitizing your vinyl for Microwave - where to start?

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  • The morning before I laid it to rest I tried to rub one off and I couldn't even figure out which movies were the porns.


  • I'm anxiously refreshing this thread to see how far down the spiderhole the word-change discussion will go.


    But on topic - the first stuff I did was records I had doubles of, so I could thin out my collection. Then stuff I play out the most. I also follow Deerocks mode as well with a mix of pop crap and personal faves. Kinda depends on the mood. Lately I've been knee deep in my meager drum & bass crate as I want to get rid of all of those records. And I got about 300 hip hop 12s that are doubles that I'm going to tackle next.

  • FatbackFatback 6,746 Posts
    Frickin' Microwave

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  • Frickin' Microwave

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    infected, son. Get thee to McAfee IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!!!!

  • FatbackFatback 6,746 Posts
    Frickin' Microwave

    (test)


    infected, son. Get thee to McAfee IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!!!!

    puleez.

    I'm on the VA State Government matrix controlled by Northrup Grumman. I can't even change the time on my computer.


  • I'm on the VA State Government matrix controlled by Northrup Grumman. I can't even change the time on my computer.

    that's what they want you to think.

  • DJ_EnkiDJ_Enki 6,475 Posts
    Fucking Serato!

    When I got it, the advice folks gave me is to start by digitizing the rare stuff, the less-commonly-heard stuff, the stuff that you would love to play out more often if you weren't worried about trashing the condition, etc. Do things that need a bit of re-editing. You can always get the basic stuff, the top 40 stuff, etc. from other folks, and if you've got some ill shit digitized, then you actually have something to offer as a trade.

    I also digitized records as it occurred to me to play them. Like, "Oh, I should play X tonight!" So I digitize that song.

  • sticky_dojahsticky_dojah New York City. 2,136 Posts
    again!

    is this really a virus? or sth raj did set up? sayratoe becomes microwave and facking turns to frickin on my computer. sheet, i thought macs were good to go with...

    regarding the topic: O, I suggest digitizing your rare stuff first, just to avoid any further cue burn, as was already said...

  • again!

    is this really a virus? or sth raj did set up? sayratoe becomes microwave and facking turns to frickin on my computer. sheet, i thought macs were good to go with...

    I think you should run a search on your computer for the cher.exe virus.

  • DB_CooperDB_Cooper Manhatin' 7,823 Posts
    is this really a virus?

    You tell me. Can you say "I bought serato at Turntablelab and when I got home, it was fucking broken?"

    If not, you're probably already screwed.

  • verb606verb606 2,518 Posts

    I'm on the VA State Government matrix controlled by Northrup Grumman. I can't even change the time on my computer.

    that's what they want you to think.


    That's right. The Matrix has you.

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
    I had to dump my last laptop because my entire serato track list started reading "Microwave" for every track.

    But Oliver I swear to God we had this same discussion a year or two back.

    We probably did. You can see how much progress I've made in digitizing since then.

    On the real: I just started to do more club stuff and am actually toting the microwave gear with me so I figure, well, I might as well start digitizing so I can expand my playlist past the same 20 songs that have been in there since 2005.

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
    BTW,

    I tried digitizing the same song via a line out from mixer --> into my MacBook Pro. Then I compared that same song with one digitized via the "record" function in Microwave (i.e. via the USB line).

    No difference, whatsoever.

    I'm sticking with the line out method since, at least that way, I can actually hear what I'm digitizing directly in the sound edit program.

  • do you have a usb conversion device? I would not rip vinyl for playing out with just your mic in.


  • On the real: I just started to do more club stuff and am actually toting the microwave gear with me so I figure, well, I might as well start digitizing so I can expand my playlist past the same 20 songs that have been in there since 2005.

    I'm guilty of the same. I am so bad about adding new stuff in there. I get lazy and just bring records. I think one easy way to do it, since you're starting to play more club stuff, would be to take your record bag from the previous night and pull the one trackers out and rip them. Like if you're bring a double LP so you can play one cut, just rip that one cut. Or all the commercial shit that is one track only, not even worth playing an instrumental, etc. Just pull those and be done with them. Never have to carry them again.

    If it's a full LP, like the first cymande for instance, that is rather versatile (Bra for upbeat, dove for down time, etc) I'd just keep bringing it and rip that one later. No sense in carrying around extra weight for the one trackers.

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
    do you have a usb conversion device? I would not rip vinyl for playing out with just your mic in.

    I was using the Microwave box as a USB conversion device and people said it'd be better than running it into the laptop direct but I'm saying: I tried it both ways, listened to the difference, sent it to a friend to see if he could tell any difference...and there was none.

  • I would go down to Guitar Center or Labcabin TODAY and buy some kind of interface. MP3s already sound shitty, no need to make them worse by using crude conversion devices.

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
    I would go down to Guitar Center or Labcabin TODAY and buy some kind of interface. MP3s already sound shitty, no need to make them worse by using crude conversion devices.

    I thought the Microwave box was actually supposed to be pretty decent? Nothing like a top-end MBox or anything, but still, solid?

  • If it sounds the same as your mic input I would go spend $200 or so on something real.

    Please do not be the typical record dude who will drop hundreds on one track but skimp out on their recording and playback equipment!

  • CosmoCosmo 9,768 Posts
    I fucking LOVE my Serato that I bought at Turntablelab.

  • I fucking LOVE my Serato that I bought at Turntablelab.

    Are you digitizing tunes using your box?

    What's up Cos.

  • CosmoCosmo 9,768 Posts
    I fucking LOVE my Serato that I bought at Turntablelab.

    Are you digitizing tunes using your box?

    What's up Cos.

    Whattup J?

    Yeah I digitize my shit right through Serato. It's pretty low end but I make it sound nice.

  • DB_CooperDB_Cooper Manhatin' 7,823 Posts
    Labcabin

    Uh oh. Looks like another laptop bites the dust.


  • I fucking LOVE my Serato that I bought at Turntablelab.

    Are you digitizing tunes using your box?

    What's up Cos.

    Whattup J?

    Yeah I digitize my shit right through Serato. It's pretty low end but I make it sound nice.

    Yo I'm maxin out huss.

    So what, you do some improvement after you record it, enhancements or whatever, or do you just use an in-line mixer to tweak it out?


    I get really nice rips using my Motu 16 track i/o unit but it's time consuming as hell. If I thought the Serato box would work that'd be a good look especially on stuff where high quality is not as important (soundclips and such)

  • if you see this shit, call an IT tech immediately.


  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
    If it sounds the same as your mic input I would go spend $200 or so on something real.

    Please do not be the typical record dude who will drop hundreds on one track but skimp out on their recording and playback equipment!

    I'm not against buying up, not at all, but people had said the Microwave box was pretty solid. After all, if you run a line into an MBox, you still have to run it through your mixer to begin with. The Microwave box bypasses that since it's outputing sound directly from the TT, into its box, then out through USB.

    You would think that the line out method would be worse since the signal is still running through the Microwave box, the mixer and then into the computer's soundcard. But seriously, once I took both files, encoded them at 320 (LAME), and listened to them side by side, I really could not tell any significant difference in fidelity, nor could my friend and he's more of an audiophile than I am.

    But hey, I'm down to do a listening test to anyone who wants to listen side by side and see if they can figure out the method of digitizing. I have no qualms with digitizing through the Microwave box...it's just easier to do it through the line-in.

  • I'll mess around with it. I'm not concerned about the length of the chain so much as the analog-digital conversion quality.

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
    I'll mess around with it. I'm not concerned about the length of the chain so much as the analog-digital conversion quality.

    Yeah - let us know if there's a big diff. I don't mind dropping a few hunnid on a good quality MBox if the upgrade in quality is good enough to merit it.

  • spelunkspelunk 3,400 Posts
    Odub, what speakers are you listening on? While the Microwave converters aren't that great, and the apple ones are decent, I'm surprised that you don't hear a difference.

    Where you're really going to hear the benefit though is if you record to 24-bit and dither to 16-bit. Pretty simple, just takes a little bit of time for each recording, but if you use some batch processing functions you can save yourself a lot of time. I am mad picky though and don't even compress to mp3, just leave them as WAV files.

    Another big difference will be if you're using the balanced outputs on your mixer or not.

    But really, if it's good enough for your ears that's all that matters, and you're probably saving yourself a lot of hassle.

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
    Odub, what speakers are you listening on? While the Microwave converters aren't that great, and the apple ones are decent, I'm surprised that you don't hear a difference.

    Where you're really going to hear the benefit though is if you record to 24-bit and dither to 16-bit. Pretty simple, just takes a little bit of time for each recording, but if you use some batch processing functions you can save yourself a lot of time. I am mad picky though and don't even compress to mp3, just leave them as WAV files.

    Another big difference will be if you're using the balanced outputs on your mixer or not.

    But really, if it's good enough for your ears that's all that matters, and you're probably saving yourself a lot of hassle.

    I was using my Sony monitor headphones to listen and I'm out-putting from my Rane mixer through the aux out RCAs. Not sure if they're balanced or not.

    And for space reasons, I have to compress to MP3, alas. I'm doing it at 320 though, so I'm trying to keep whatever I can.
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