Manship prices
meatyogre
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Ok, what I don't get, is that most of the time.. he's charging 25-50% more than the prices he lists in his own price guide. I'm all for sitting on your records until you get the price you want, but that guy is on some ARCHDD type shit when you look at his Gemm catalog, the difference is that he's an actual serious seller. THITH IS LUDACRITH
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I mean, what is dude even going to say?
Don't know what you guys are doing wrong.
perhaps the pound is up against the dollar since his last book came out???
regardless, manships price guide is so unreliable & all over the place that you just end up having to check the internets anyway.
his northern pricing strategy is like the ever-inflating real estate markets in past years - all values always going up, never down.
I knew we were doing something wrong when he spent a good hour or so in our cheap 45 racks($10 and under)and came to the counter with about 80 45s...
these guys are known to buy all the $2 Bobby Bland commons you see everywhere & sell them inside the UK for 10 pounds
At some point (likely involving a life-changing purchase of my own) I will probably sell a record to Manship, and it will be the most money I will ever get for a record in my lifetime.
You sold him a record, or had him auction a record off for you?
I've done the latter, and yeah, its great.
I settled for an up-front price, he might've auctioned it afterward.
I've bought from him before too.
The books are not accurate but they're useful.
Next up: RECORDS BY MAIL! OVERPRICED! AAAAH!!!
I always thought that a lot of the records he sells on his site he had mad quantity of from a couple of big warehouse buys and as time goes by and they all get picked out of the field, he will be or already is the only source for them and thus is able to control the price. Also having large stock quantities of mass amounts of soul 45s and then compiling a price guide might lead one to inflate prices on records they have endless supllies of. I always check 45s against his site opposed to the price guide first to see if he has it in stock.
MCF
What edition of the price guide are you using? If you don't have the fourth then that would explain the price differences.
Just to play devil's advocate, some of the 45s he has listed in the guide are way underpriced. For instance, he has Rideout on Hotlicks/Rota for a fraction of what it usually sells for. Chucky Thurmon is listed at 200 pounds, which is about 1/3 to 1/4 what it goes for, etc.
Personally I've had nothing but positive experiences dealing with the man and the guide is enormously useful as long as you don't take the prices literally and learn how to interpret them.
Of course, all your points are true. Im just wondering if he sells a record, for say 100 pounds, and then ups the price every time by 20 pounds or some shit. I'm also wondering if the records he has priced so low in his book are things that he has sitting in quantity in his own warehouse.
I'll tell you exactly what he will say. "3 or 4 or those have sold in the last year and the market is a bit flooded." backedwith "People aren't looking for that one as much as they once did."
The thing is the Northern Soul market is weird and volital. No body knows it better than Manship. Few have more influence on it than Manship (but unlike some djs he is not a trend setter). If he says it is, it is.
I think the guy is honest and if he offers you a price it will be his buy price.
And in case no body has said it his book does not list the values of records, it is a GUIDE[/b] based on past sales.
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