Art Students declare WAR on the streets of NYC!

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  • hemolhemol 2,578 Posts
    I think that 'ruining' street art is pretty fresh. You can't really ruin it because it's never meant to be pristine, so it just makes it more interesting when you splash paint over it; dynamism reborn. Setting off stinkbombs--the joke store variety--in a gallery seems like fun, but lighting shit on fire is a whole other level of mayhem.

    I definitely think that the art world needs disruption, but it needs to be backed up with substanative critique, none of this over-jargoned grad school self-aggrandizing. It's totally lame to try and criticize the business side of art. I think that when I was 14 or 15 I believed in the utopic non-commodified version of the world, but the truth is that without commodification the 'art world' would be composed enitrely of paltry hippies and trust funders.

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    none of this over-jargoned grad school self-aggrandizing.

    Unfortunately this is what makes up the Art World's farm system.
    Where are those "much needed" critics going to emerge from?

  • bassiebassie 11,710 Posts
    I'd rather look at a potentially commercially exploited image than a splash of paint thanks.

    In this case, I agree. And I don't like Pollock either. It wouldn't be so annoying if it weren't for the posters and the motivation.

    As far as critics go - I really like Simon Schama. His Power of Art series was great; the last one on Rothko aired on PBS last night. He inspires emotion and excitement about art and his love for it is sincere. This is a good thing.

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    Rothko


  • bassiebassie 11,710 Posts
    It's the darker work that I love the most





    They go well with Serrano's morgue series.



    (can't really post the others)

  • hemolhemol 2,578 Posts
    none of this over-jargoned grad school self-aggrandizing.

    Unfortunately this is what makes up the Art World's farm system.
    Where are those "much needed" critics going to emerge from?

    I agree, but it's also just a matter of 'fitting in'. The people that are in the position of critic have the ability to speak however they want, especially someone who is on the renegade tip like the splasher (no publishers, or editors R).

    Bassie, I am not familiar with Schama, but I'll look into it. From the look of the website most of the shows have focused on lon-dead dudes. Is he moving towards contemporary works?

  • how can the glass hurt you if you take the poster down? It's not going to explode in your face.
    It can become embedded in your skin.

    I've tried to rip these posters down, and i'm still alive. glass shards, schmlass schmlards. i think that combination would make it really hard for someone to wheat paste. dude's bullshttin. i think the real trick should be popping out from around the corner as someone's reading your credo and smashing them in the face with a whip cream pie.

    then take pictures of it, and put it on your blog.

  • bassiebassie 11,710 Posts
    Bassie, I am not familiar with Schama, but I'll look into it. From the look of the website most of the shows have focused on lon-dead dudes. Is he moving towards contemporary works?

    Not that I can tell - maybe he'll do another batch and have some newer folks. Last week it was on Picasso's Guernica. He finished the hour off by talking about the painting's lasting power - namely how it was covered when Powell spoke to the press about the US invasion of Iraq in the UN Security Council Building in 2003. The reproduction hangs in the entrance. US officials thought it would be a bad idea to have this as a back-drop and UN officials complied...what a great demonstration of how useless the UN is.

  • bassiebassie 11,710 Posts
    how can the glass hurt you if you take the poster down? It's not going to explode in your face.
    It can become embedded in your skin.

    I've tried to rip these posters down, and i'm still alive. glass shards, schmlass schmlards. i think that combination would make it really hard for someone to wheat paste. dude's bullshttin. i think the real trick should be popping out from around the corner as someone's reading your credo and smashing them in the face with a paint[/b] pie.

    then take pictures of it, and put it on your blog.

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts


    I have a friend who proposed to his now wife in the Rothko Chapel.

  • BamboucheBambouche 1,484 Posts
    I'd rather look at a potentially commercially exploited image than a splash of paint thanks.

    In this case, I agree. And I don't like Pollock either. It wouldn't be so annoying if it weren't for the posters and the motivation.

    As far as critics go - I really like Simon Schama. His Power of Art series was great; the last one on Rothko aired on PBS last night. He inspires emotion and excitement about art and his love for it is sincere. This is a good thing.


    I'd like to see the Rothko special. To me, there's something that hapens to the whole of my body when I stand near one of his paintings. It's something that doesn't usually happen with other color field works or "splashes of paint." Wolfgang Tillmans produced a series of "blushes" that equally moves me. I was only reminded of this two nights ago when squeezing pomegranate seeds through cheesecloth. The juice was wicking up the cloth making a rainbow of red. When we were done, my wife asked me not to wash it cause she wanted to look at it later. Like staring at one of the blushes, you are drawn to contemplate the subtlety. Pollock makes me want to walk away.


    This art student declared war thing sounds less like hyperbole and more like a weak plagiarism of Breton's pamphlets on Surrealism; "Arcane 17," "Second Ark," or "For the Defence of Freedom."

  • phongonephongone 1,652 Posts
    how can the glass hurt you if you take the poster down? It's not going to explode in your face.
    It can become embedded in your skin.

    I've tried to rip these posters down, and i'm still alive. glass shards, schmlass schmlards. i think that combination would make it really hard for someone to wheat paste. dude's bullshttin. i think the real trick should be popping out from around the corner as someone's reading your credo and smashing them in the face with a paint[/b] pie.

    then take pictures of it, and put it on your blog.

    Yeah, anyone scurred to take down these "glass-embedded" posters is a

  • bassiebassie 11,710 Posts
    I'd rather look at a potentially commercially exploited image than a splash of paint thanks.

    In this case, I agree. And I don't like Pollock either. It wouldn't be so annoying if it weren't for the posters and the motivation.

    As far as critics go - I really like Simon Schama. His Power of Art series was great; the last one on Rothko aired on PBS last night. He inspires emotion and excitement about art and his love for it is sincere. This is a good thing.


    I'd like to see the Rothko special. To me, there's something that hapens to the whole of my body when I stand near one of his paintings.

    Schama talked about this - he used the word 'throb' a few times to describe the paintings which is perfect way to describe them...the reds and maroons escpecially. Another thing he said that I liked, when he was talking about the black paintings, was that Rothko was trying to see how dark he could make light.
    A lot of what he spoke about in the hour was everything that was going on around Rothko - (pop) culture, religion, academics, economics, even his health - it added texture and context to what at first seem nothing more than, as you say, 'splashes of paint' and colour blocks.

  • FrankFrank 2,370 Posts
    I hope someone whose pieces have been defaced by those fuckers will camp out in front of some untouched stuff, hunt them down, bend them over a fence and sodomize them with some mechanical donkey dildo from hell. I'd also throw a generous amount of small and larger shards of glass into the lubricant.

  • BamboucheBambouche 1,484 Posts
    It's also worth noting the similarities between these glass-embedded wheat paste posters with Debord's book M??moires, which was bound in sandpaper so it abraded whatever books were placed next to it on the shelf. Debord's effort was executed more understatedly and engagingly, IMO.

  • FrankFrank 2,370 Posts
    It's a simple rip-off. Those douchebags wouldn't have the creativity to come up with something like this by themselves.

    As far as I know, the German communists during the Weimar Republic were the first ones to do this.

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    I hope someone whose pieces have been defaced by those fuckers will camp out in front of some untouched stuff, hunt them down, bend them over a fence and sodomize them with some mechanical donkey dildo from hell. I'd also throw a generous amount of small and larger shards of glass into the lubricant.

    The day STREET art goes untouched in NYC is the day I leave.

  • BaptBapt 2,503 Posts
    Dudes better be driving their on the cry-way to get some waaaaaah-burgers, french cries, and a salty weineken.

    The definition of art[/b] -hurt.

  • bassiebassie 11,710 Posts
    ROM bomb 'a misguided art project'
    Student turns himself into police
    UNNATI GANDHI AND TIMOTHY APPLEBY

    November 30, 2007

    A student at the Ontario College of Art and Design turned himself into police with his lawyer last night after a multimedia bomb hoax at the Royal Ontario Museum on Wednesday night.

    The 25-year-old allegedly made a fake bomb, along with an equally phony video posted on YouTube of the ROM blowing up, for a final project for his video class, police said.

    "It would appear ... that it was, in my opinion, a misguided art project," Detective Constable Hector MacDonald said.

    The ROM had to cancel a charity fundraiser and call in the bomb squad when a worker discovered the fake-bomb-in-a-bag - labelled "This is not a bomb." The online video was uploaded the same evening and relayed to news media outlets.

    Jerkily shot with a hand-held camera and still on display yesterday, it depicts a smiling ROM visitor - possibly a genuine visitor whose recording was obtained by pranksters - who walks up to the entrance before disappearing from the screen with a bang, a flash and a chorus of shouts.

    The fake bomb - which comprised three simulated pipe bombs wrapped in wire and a battery - was discovered by a security guard shortly after 6 p.m. outside the museum's Bloor Street entrance. It was shortly before more than 2,000 guests were due to arrive for the Canadian Foundation for AIDS Research dinner, a $600-a-plate affair expected to raise hundreds of thousands of dollars.

    The dinner was cancelled, the Toronto police bomb squad arrived in force, along with its robot, and traffic was snarled around Bloor Street and rerouted for the next four hours.

    The video, posted later in the evening, showed a simulated explosion and aftermath at the museum and similarly declared itself: "The fake bombing at the ROM, Toronto, 28.11.07."

    In an interview with Torontoist.com yesterday, the man said he thought the disclosure notes he affixed to his project meant he wasn't breaking the law. He told the website the idea of the project was to show how context changes the meaning of a piece of art. In this case, something that is "quite clearly not dangerous, but when you put it in a different context the viewer recontextualizes it."

    He has been suspended from OCAD for non-academic mischief. Two faculty members have also been suspended with pay, the college said in a statement.

    The dinner will be rescheduled, likely in January, and much of the money being raised for CANFAR may still materialize, as corporate sponsors promised to honour their pledges.

    The elaborate hoax nonetheless spelled a major disappointment. "This makes me feel very sad; it's quite a tragic event for the organization," said CANFAR executive director Elissa Beckett.

    As to the video, there were no plans yesterday to remove it from public view. In general, videos that are neither pornographic nor unduly violent can get a free spot on the YouTube site, and there appears to be nothing illegal about airing footage of an explosion that never occurred.

    Thorarinn Jonsson has been charged with common nuisance and mischief interfering with property.

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    Smart & Stupid

  • ReynaldoReynaldo 6,054 Posts
    If it don't make dollars it don't make sense.

  • DB_CooperDB_Cooper Manhatin' 7,823 Posts
    Those posters are filled with so much pretentious bullshit that it's kind of astonishing.

    agreed. So much so that i cant even figure out what the fuck they are mad about.

    The work of overly educated yet only modestly intelligent folks, who aren't smart enough to understand that purloined erudition does not equate to profundity.

    Fuck them batches.

  • ah I just remembered: i saw an old[/b] OBEY / Shepard Fairey sticker that had some small print at the bottom that said something to the point of "removal of this article can be hazardous to your health" or something to that extent. It's funny that he's dissing shit that he's bit. cornball.

    oh, for the new york heads that follow street art type shit:

    The Streets our Europe Opening
    Date: Saturday, December 1st
    Time: 6:00pm - 9:00pm
    Location: Jonathan Levine Gallery (529 W. 20th St, 9fl)

    BANSKY Opening
    Date: Sunday, December 2nd
    Time: 1:00pm - 5:00pm
    Location: Vanina Holasek Gallery (502 West 27th Street)

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    oh, for the New York heads that follow Gallery street art type shit:

    The Streets our Europe Opening
    Date: Saturday, December 1st
    Time: 6:00pm - 9:00pm
    Location: Jonathan Levine Gallery (529 W. 20th St, 9fl)

    BANSKY Opening
    Date: Sunday, December 2nd
    Time: 1:00pm - 5:00pm
    Location: Vanina Holasek Gallery (502 West 27th Street)

  • deejdeej 5,125 Posts
    Art Students declare BORE on the streets of NYC

  • oh, for the New York heads that follow Gallery street art type shit:

    gotsta get paid.
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