Cowboy Troy

volumenvolumen 2,532 Posts
edited June 2005 in Strut Central
What the fuck is this country rappin' shit?????While I'm bithcing....how about the new Coke comercial where the frat boy is rapping I'd Like To Teach the world to sing with his acoustic. Blech!Didn't Shortee's Dad write that Coke song?
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  • Big_ChanBig_Chan 5,088 Posts





  • BsidesBsides 4,244 Posts
    I just saw this Cowboy Troy guy on Jay Leno. Some WACK country group called "Big & Rich" was backing him up. Jay Leno introduced him as a "Country Rapper." What the hell is a country rapper? This Troy guy was TERRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    He was wearing some tight jeans, a weird green shirt and a cowboy hat. I only HOPE this is not a new trend because it was SO bad that I never want to see or hear anything like this again. Does this get airplay on country radio? Will white country music fans buy this guys records? Where is this guy from? WTF?
    Someone should let this Troy guy know that Charlie Pride is the only Black "Country" artist that white people will spend money to see or buy his records.

    Cowboy Troy





    You're wrong. White people will definitely buy this.

  • yuichiyuichi Urban sprawl 11,331 Posts
    My sister and I were just watching this, and we're like "ohhh...wow....".

    BEST RAPPER ALIVE! i too believe people will buy it.

  • BsidesBsides 4,244 Posts
    What the fuck is this country rappin' shit?????


    While I'm bithcing....how about the new Coke comercial where the frat boy is rapping I'd Like To Teach the world to sing with his acoustic. Blech!

    Didn't Shortee's Dad write that Coke song?

    isnt that G-love? from the worst frat boy band ever? Glove and special sauce?


  • Yo, that shit is huge right now. Cowboy Troy had his "album party" (??) at the my work last month and there were a grip of these country/frat-boy/meat head types starting fights outside trying to get in.

    alot of this shit:



  • DocBeezyDocBeezy 1,918 Posts
    I only HOPE this is not a new trend because it was SO bad that I never want to see or hear anything like this again. Does this get airplay on country radio? Will white country music fans buy this guys records? Where is this guy from? WTF?
    Someone should let this Troy guy know that Charlie Pride is the only Black "Country" artist that white people will spend money to see or buy his records.



    I hope it doesnt become a trend, but it might.

    I work in an office full of racist young and old women. They all love country, I mean, contemporary, horrible country, like that Big and Rich shit. Just awful music. Anyway, they occasionally over hear me listening to soul, and rap, and whatever else. They made "racist" comments, not outright racist, but you know......

    They all love this Cowboy troy dude. I dont fuckin get it. They hate blacks, hate rap, but LOVE this dude. LOVE this dude. I cant express that enough. LOVE IT. Like this dude is CHrist or something. Scary.

  • MoSSMoSS 458 Posts
    Back in the early 90's Pete Rock came up with I think Showbiz right after the Soul Clap 12" dropped and some Coyboy rapper opened. It was either Showboz or DITC...anthow it was pretty crazy as nobody expected to see a guy in a cowboy outfit spitting. I think it was at Spectrum. Anyhow the guy took some bottles to the head. It was the first time I was at a concert where bottles were thrown at the stage

  • AserAser 2,351 Posts
    It was the first time I was at a concert where bottles were thrown at the stage

    and not the last time..........remember rapfest?

    "welcome to toronto, where we pay $20 just to boo ya"

  • What the hell is a country rapper?

    And so the 21st century's most confounding musical development
    is revealed.

    Actually, there is a long history of rap artists messing with country
    and country artists messing with rap. For the most part these album-filler
    songs were hokey jokes from Muscogee, mere novelties that allowed one
    camp to poke fun at the style of the other camp across a wide, polluted
    river.

    In the 21st century, persistent parties have made bold attempts to
    build a bridge. Witness the recent (phoned in at gunpoint?) appearance
    of Tim McGraw on a hit Nelly song. Listen to the talented white
    Southern rap artists Tow Down and Bubba Sparxxx. And, as mentioned,
    mad musical mescegenation on commercials. I could give examples all day, but
    don't watch me, watch TV.

    To ask "what the hell is a country rapper?" or "what the fuck is this
    country rappin' shit?" is to imply one's deep-seated belief in a permanent
    state of cultural segregation.

    I would argue that the inevitable marriage of country and rap styles
    could be one important key to a new populist expansion of power, a power
    that would be nearly unstoppable due to its every element's decentralization.

    On the other hand, if "country rap" sounds like a good idea to beer and
    soda ad agencies, imagine what it could do for the likes of Karl Rove and
    company.

    Now, having said all that, allow me to stress that I too saw the Jay Leno
    performance you're talking about, and I seriously think that Cowboy Troy
    may be the worst rapper ever to disgrace a microphone on national television.
    His diction and rhythmic skills are below rudimentary, and the writing
    is nothing short of a travesty. I believe that Troy is where he is today
    because he is the one who happened to be there with the right hat, willing
    and able to play the exhausting and seedy game of the music business.

    If you'll allow me, I'd suggest that Troy may be Country Rap's Sugarhill
    Gang...now just imagine, that somewhere down there sits Country Rap's
    Rakim, busy scribbling rhymes between farm chores and bedtime.
    Will you be ready?

    To address Doc Beezy's observations of the women in his office:

    They all love this Cowboy troy dude. I dont fuckin get it. They hate blacks, hate rap, but LOVE this dude. LOVE this dude. I cant express that enough. LOVE IT. Like this dude is CHrist or something. Scary.

    Two ways of looking at this.

    1. Troy is a novelty. He's non-threatening, relatively non-violent, and he
    opts to pursue content that is much more in line with country than current hip-hop. According to early 20th century paradigms, Troy would be the shuffling, grinning self-deprecating black man acting to temporarily entertain frightened, ignorant and neurotic white women.

    2. The white women in your office might hate rap, but, despite their trash talking may not really hate black guys...in fact they might really really like them a whole lot deep down, if you catch my drift. But they don't like rap.
    And they don't like all the baggy pants and nightgown white t-shirts.
    Cowboy Troy is the first big black man to get up on TV and dance around in very very tight jeans in about 2 decades, and it's pretty fuckin' exciting.
    Figuratively speaking, he could walk end-to-end through any mall in America on a fresh carpet of white poontang.


  • volumenvolumen 2,532 Posts
    What the hell is a country rapper?



    To ask "what the hell is a country rapper?" or "what the fuck is this
    country rappin' shit?" is to imply one's deep-seated belief in a permanent
    state of cultural segregation.




    No, I've just never heard of such a thing and it sucked. That doesn't mean it can't happen, but this was the first example I've sene and it was shit. Country music already has enough really bad lyrics with tourtured rhymes, so rapping them just makes them worse. But thanks for the essay. This is the kind of thing that doesn't need to be over anylized, cuz it just sucks.

  • BsidesBsides 4,244 Posts
    What the hell is a country rapper?

    And so the 21st century's most confounding musical development
    is revealed.

    Actually, there is a long history of rap artists messing with country
    and country artists messing with rap. For the most part these album-filler
    songs were hokey jokes from Muscogee, mere novelties that allowed one
    camp to poke fun at the style of the other camp across a wide, polluted
    river.

    In the 21st century, persistent parties have made bold attempts to
    build a bridge. Witness the recent (phoned in at gunpoint?) appearance
    of Tim McGraw on a hit Nelly song. Listen to the talented white
    Southern rap artists Tow Down and Bubba Sparxxx. And, as mentioned,
    mad musical mescegenation on commercials. I could give examples all day, but
    don't watch me, watch TV.

    To ask "what the hell is a country rapper?" or "what the fuck is this
    country rappin' shit?" is to imply one's deep-seated belief in a permanent
    state of cultural segregation.

    I would argue that the inevitable marriage of country and rap styles
    could be one important key to a new populist expansion of power, a power
    that would be nearly unstoppable due to its every element's decentralization.

    On the other hand, if "country rap" sounds like a good idea to beer and
    soda ad agencies, imagine what it could do for the likes of Karl Rove and
    company.

    Now, having said all that, allow me to stress that I too saw the Jay Leno
    performance you're talking about, and I seriously think that Cowboy Troy
    may be the worst rapper ever to disgrace a microphone on national television.
    His diction and rhythmic skills are below rudimentary, and the writing
    is nothing short of a travesty. I believe that Troy is where he is today
    because he is the one who happened to be there with the right hat, willing
    and able to play the exhausting and seedy game of the music business.

    If you'll allow me, I'd suggest that Troy may be Country Rap's Sugarhill
    Gang...now just imagine, that somewhere down there sits Country Rap's
    Rakim, busy scribbling rhymes between farm chores and bedtime.
    Will you be ready?

    To address Doc Beezy's observations of the women in his office:

    They all love this Cowboy troy dude. I dont fuckin get it. They hate blacks, hate rap, but LOVE this dude. LOVE this dude. I cant express that enough. LOVE IT. Like this dude is CHrist or something. Scary.

    Two ways of looking at this.

    1. Troy is a novelty. He's non-threatening, relatively non-violent, and he
    opts to pursue content that is much more in line with country than current hip-hop. According to early 20th century paradigms, Troy would be the shuffling, grinning self-deprecating black man acting to temporarily entertain frightened, ignorant and neurotic white women.

    2. The white women in your office might hate rap, but, despite their trash talking may not really hate black guys...in fact they might really really like them a whole lot deep down, if you catch my drift. But they don't like rap.
    And they don't like all the baggy pants and nightgown white t-shirts.
    Cowboy Troy is the first big black man to get up on TV and dance around in very very tight jeans in about 2 decades, and it's pretty fuckin' exciting.
    Figuratively speaking, he could walk end-to-end through any mall in America on a fresh carpet of white poontang.



    wow. Im scared of the country rap rakim.


  • DJ_EnkiDJ_Enki 6,471 Posts

    Didn't Shortee's Dad write that Coke song?

    He wrote the "Have a Coke and a Smile" jingle.


    This is the only cowboy Troy you need pay attention to:




  • parsecparsec 5,087 Posts
    Anybody else love that Sadat X wild cowboy album?

  • LaserWolfLaserWolf Portland Oregon 11,517 Posts
    I heard him on NPR. "Rappers talk about there rides, and country singers sing about their rides. Not much difference." He also pointed out how recitation was an old country tradition. Think "Deck Of Cards".

    It sounded like a bad concept, but I was ready to give the guy a listen. I couldn't belive how bad he was. Bad country. Bad (as in bad) rap. It sounded like a parody of a paraody of a country rap paradoy.[/b] Being radio I did not get to see the guy, but I assumed he was made for music video and that must be his appeal.

    I have a Cajun Rap record from the 80s that is better than him.

    Maybe Jamie Foxx will be the great country rapper. You know, like the way Ray broke through to country.

    On a related note, many great country singers cover R&B songs out of love. Some like Charlie Rich and Ronnie Milsap are good at it even if their bands aren't always up to the task.

    Dan

  • hogginthefogghogginthefogg 6,098 Posts
    Anyone else waiting for pickwick33[/b] to weigh in here?

  • iconicon 86 Posts
    He's a product of Dallas.

    Glad to see the hometown heroes show the world how it's done.

    Snake, Big Al, Ice, and now Troy.


  • pickwick33pickwick33 8,946 Posts
    Anyone else waiting for pickwick33[/b] to weigh in here?

    Well, here I am, a couple days late:

    I've seen the hype, but figured the "black hayseed" act was just that. Yeah, he wears Western gear, but then so did the Gap Band. However, yesterday I'm reading some article on the new new-country explosion in Entertainment Weekly, and there was Troy's pic, right next to Dierks Bentley and that fine-ass Gretchen woman. Going by you guys' reactions, my original hunch was right. If he's still in the business five years from now, but the "chocolate cowboy" schtick has dried up, I'll bet you dollars to donuts he'll have moved on to something else.

    And to the guy who said that the only black performer that country fans will give the time of day to is Charley Pride, well:
    (1) Charley is old, probably doing matinees in Branson, MO now and hasn't had a hit in eons (not that he needs one);
    (2) I gotta say, most of what I heard by Charley was pretty corny and poppish, but then again his producers HAD to take the edge off so racist white audiences in the sixties would accept him;
    (3) Not that I'm trying to outdo the next guy with my fave obscurities or whatever, but the late great O.B. McClinton really was a better performer in the black country division. His best album, IMO, was Obie From Senatobie. And he recorded for a Stax sub-label, too!!![/b]

  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts

    (3) Not that I'm trying to outdo the next guy with my fave obscurities or whatever, but the late great O.B. McClinton really was a better performer in the black country division. His best album, IMO, was Obie From Senatobie. And he recorded for a Stax sub-label, too!!![/b]

    Goddamn right!

    Didn't somebody compile a CD box set of the work of black country artists a few years back?

  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts

    (3) Not that I'm trying to outdo the next guy with my fave obscurities or whatever, but the late great O.B. McClinton really was a better performer in the black country division. His best album, IMO, was Obie From Senatobie. And he recorded for a Stax sub-label, too!!![/b]

    Goddamn right!

    Didn't somebody compile a CD box set of the work of black country artists a few years back (or maybe the theme was black--but not necessarily country--artists doing country)?

  • pickwick33pickwick33 8,946 Posts

    (3) Not that I'm trying to outdo the next guy with my fave obscurities or whatever, but the late great O.B. McClinton really was a better performer in the black country division. His best album, IMO, was Obie From Senatobie. And he recorded for a Stax sub-label, too!!![/b]

    Goddamn right!

    Didn't somebody compile a CD box set of the work of black country artists a few years back (or maybe the theme was black--but not necessarily country--artists doing country)?

    Right, right and right. One of the most essential CD box sets I own, From Where I Stand: The Black Experience In Country Music on Warner Brothers. One disc of prewar string bands, a second disc of R&B singers like Ray Charles and Esther Phillips doing soul-country thing, and a final disc of artists like Charley Pride, Stoney Edwards and O.B. McClinton who were straight-up C&W, no chaser. In all fairness, even though I dismissed Charley a few posts back, the four songs they used for this anthology are pretty good. Definitely from the Nashville assembly line, but still done really well.

  • hogginthefogghogginthefogg 6,098 Posts

    (3) Not that I'm trying to outdo the next guy with my fave obscurities or whatever, but the late great O.B. McClinton really was a better performer in the black country division. His best album, IMO, was Obie From Senatobie. And he recorded for a Stax sub-label, too!!![/b]

    Goddamn right!

    Didn't somebody compile a CD box set of the work of black country artists a few years back (or maybe the theme was black--but not necessarily country--artists doing country)?

    Right, right and right. One of the most essential CD box sets I own, From Where I Stand: The Black Experience In Country Music on Warner Brothers. One disc of prewar string bands, a second disc of R&B singers like Ray Charles and Esther Phillips doing soul-country thing, and a final disc of artists like Charley Pride, Stoney Edwards and O.B. McClinton who were straight-up C&W, no chaser. In all fairness, even though I dismissed Charley a few posts back, the four songs they used for this anthology are pretty good. Definitely from the Nashville assembly line, but still done really well.


    See, this is why I was waiting for your reply here.

    Thanks, pickwick33.

  • volumenvolumen 2,532 Posts
    Just to be clear...........

    Black cowboys were the real deal. After slavery lots of black men left the south and went west to become ranch hands etc. In fact blacks made up a good 80% of all cowboys. As you can imagine the white guys owned the ranch and the black guys did all the work. Black cowboys invented "country" music as they sat around the fire at night playing gutar and signing about the trail etc. In fact in the late 1800's - 1900 black white realations where way better than you would imagine. Several good books have been written on the subject. I used to see a guys in Kansas play.....Lemual Shepard. His whole gig was preserving original black cowboy songs and keeping the tradition alive. He was really great to see.




    But all that doesn't mean that Cowboy Troy is good.

  • Is Fake Cowboy Troy a REPIGLIKKKLAN ?

  • RhythmGJRhythmGJ Buffalo, NY 219 Posts
    No. Fake Cowboys are always DICKKKMOCRATS !

  • ppadilhappadilha 2,233 Posts
    Cowboy Troy is a piece of knowledge I wish I didn't have

  • Where IS that fake cowboy today ? He seems to have disappeared .

  • A quarter of cowboys were black,and if they returned to Earth and heard Fake Cowboy Troy's cruddy "hick-hop" and love of the REPIGLIKKKLAN Party,they'd kick his talentless butt en masse.

  • ppadilhappadilha 2,233 Posts
    well hello there Kala

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