The distorted view of America thing

cdrs88

I never once said this is what America is like, I only said some of America, I cannot judge a whole country based on some fake tanned airheads from a part of Los Angeles, all I was trying to say is that the main medium being Television is what a lot of people around the World see what America has to offer to them and it influences them highly, how come we never had such empty and braindead shows like Zoey 101 (kiddie porn for pedophiles provided by the great Disney, I had to watch this while I was babysitting and was stunned at the premise and how wrong it was), Sunset Tan,A Simple Life and all of the "reality TV" bullshit in the 80's?.I just don't know understand why we are constantly given images and shows of superficial idiots that have nothing to offer the World from America, I mean here is a good example, Victoria fucking Beckham a talentless, stick with dumb fake tits that fell in love with the all of the vapid, camera whores and attention seekers, she admired them and became one of them and if you look at her ten or so years ago, she looked nothing like that and looked normal.You won't be taking all of those Gucci handbags,$450,000 sunglasses and piles of money when you are six feet under and rolling around in dirt, so what is the fucking point?.I will always have respect for the America that gave us the incredible art form and culture known as Hip Hop, there is just a side to America that I despise and wish would vanish.

Snagglepus

If you're going to spout off about some confusion that occurred in an earlier thread (which I'm sure very few people remember or care about) at least have the decency to provide a link to that thread so that those of us who are not following your SoulStrut career with our noses pressed to our screen might be provided with some context.

Fatback

your SoulStrut career

oh, that made my morning.

kala

i'd say 80% of the country does suck
the physical structure of the damm thing is amazing

but if you check the voting demographic........what with 60-70% VOTING REPUBLICAN
i'd say you are on point with the TV analogy

most folks really don't care ,are overweight ,merrily driving their SUVs while talking on the cell phone in route to buy more stuff at wal mart/the mall.

people in the middle of the country are in fact brain-dead/washed and living a twisted version of the Brady Bunch or at least wishing they were

i must have been a great place when the native americans were living here
before the great rub out

since then there has been many many overt and covert wars against many great leaders domestically and foreign [MLK,Malcom,RFK,JFK,allende,lumumba,castro,etc]near and far
does war supposedly make the country great?

what about slavery?

somehow out of that violence/servitude came the blues,jazz,art,funk,soul, and hip hop, as well as rock and roll
mostly music of the opressed and the dis-infranchised -african american/latinos
that is qute obvious
but to me its the fruit and the best part of the US experience not excluding hippy culture/pranksters/haight ashbury/LSD etc[technically imported from the swiss by the CIA]

if I could get the proper working papers and or a job in Europe i would be gone yesterday

Jonny_Paycheck

I mean here is a good example, Victoria fucking Beckham a talentless, stick with dumb fake tits that fell in love with the all of the vapid, camera whores and attention seekers, she admired them and became one of them and if you look at her ten or so years ago, she looked nothing like that and looked normal.

She's British

Fatback

music of the opressed and the dis-infranchised -african american/latinos

Jazzsucka

music of the opressed and the dis-infranchised -african american/latinos

Hey, I heard it's cold in NYC. Yo JP, you still want that LP? Waiting for the list...

dstill808

people in the middle of the country are in fact brain-dead/washed and living a twisted version of the Brady Bunch or at least wishing they were

As someone who has lived on one coast or the other my entire life, I've always HATED this knee-jerk and totally unsophisticated scapegoating of Middle America.

If you seriously think that all of the problems in our country come from the land bound states, you don't have your eyes open at all, and are basically guilty of the same mindlessness which you're so happy to accuse them of.

kala

people in the middle of the country are in fact brain-dead/washed and living a twisted version of the Brady Bunch or at least wishing they were

As someone who has lived on one coast or the other my entire life, I've always HATED this knee-jerk and totally unsophisticated scapegoating of Middle America.

If you seriously think that all of the problems in our country come from the land bound states, you don't have your eyes open at all, and are basically guilty of the same mindlessness which you're so happy to accuse them of.

i am specifically referring to the voting demographic and its respective MAP
are all people in the middle and the south dumb?
no of course not
but time and time again
all of the republican votes/pro lifers/born again christian zealots and strongholds are represented by this part of the country

furthermore I have done enough traveling in the middle and the south to perceive an obvious difference in the way folks think and act vs NYC/SF/LA.

there ain't many KKK /pro lifers in the village or the haight or in venice

and I freely admit that I am a snobby new yorker/city slicker with a humanist liberal vantage who beleives once a person leaves the tri state area the quality of MOST things decline rapidly
[food,entertainment,social awareness/liberal view points/education/awareness of OTHER COUNTRIES and CULTURES etc]
obviously this is not doctrine or law just an opinion of which I am entitled to,during a discussion with a bunch of strangers I will never meet

faux_rillz

I never once said this is what America is like, I only said some of America, I cannot judge a whole country based on some fake tanned airheads from a part of Los Angeles, all I was trying to say is that the main medium being Television is what a lot of people around the World see what America has to offer to them and it influences them highly, how come we never had such empty and braindead shows like Zoey 101 (kiddie porn for pedophiles provided by the great Disney, I had to watch this while I was babysitting and was stunned at the premise and how wrong it was), Sunset Tan,A Simple Life and all of the "reality TV" bullshit in the 80's?.

I just don't know understand why we are constantly given images and shows of superficial idiots that have nothing to offer the World from America, I mean here is a good example, Victoria fucking Beckham a talentless, stick with dumb fake tits that fell in love with the all of the vapid, camera whores and attention seekers, she admired them and became one of them and if you look at her ten or so years ago, she looked nothing like that and looked normal.

You won't be taking all of those Gucci handbags,$450,000 sunglasses and piles of money when you are six feet under and rolling around in dirt, so what is the fucking point?.

I will always have respect for the America that gave us the incredible art form and culture known as Hip Hop, there is just a side to America that I despise and wish would vanish.

Nobody cares, dude. Go away.

motorcityfunk

people in the middle of the country are in fact brain-dead/washed and living a twisted version of the Brady Bunch or at least wishing they were

As someone who has lived on one coast or the other my entire life, I've always HATED this knee-jerk and totally unsophisticated scapegoating of Middle America.

If you seriously think that all of the problems in our country come from the land bound states, you don't have your eyes open at all, and are basically guilty of the same mindlessness which you're so happy to accuse them of.

People are just people and will react to the stress of hyper-capitalism and class/wage slippage in similar ways. Materialism is an easily accessible band-aid to the gaping wound of poverty and financial stress. It just seems like the midwest is vapid because there is more wealth wealth concentrated on the coasts and in big cities. When folks are worried about whether they'll have a job tomorrow it's hard to have some deep philosphical introspection on materialism and the meaning of life. It's a whole lot easier to buy into some media driven retail escapism and bury your depression with credit cards.

MCF

kala

people in the middle of the country are in fact brain-dead/washed and living a twisted version of the Brady Bunch or at least wishing they were

As someone who has lived on one coast or the other my entire life, I've always HATED this knee-jerk and totally unsophisticated scapegoating of Middle America.

If you seriously think that all of the problems in our country come from the land bound states, you don't have your eyes open at all, and are basically guilty of the same mindlessness which you're so happy to accuse them of.

People are just people and will react to the stress of hyper-capitalism and class/wage slippage in similar ways. Materialism is an easily accessible band-aid to the gaping wound of poverty and financial stress. It just seems like the midwest is vapid because there is more wealth wealth concentrated on the coasts and in big cities. When folks are worried about whether they'll have a job tomorrow it's hard to have some deep philosphical introspection on materialism and the meaning of life. It's a whole lot easier to buy into some media driven retail escapism and bury your depression with credit cards.

MCF

well written and agreed

DocMcCoy

I mean here is a good example, Victoria fucking Beckham a talentless, stick with dumb fake tits that fell in love with the all of the vapid, camera whores and attention seekers, she admired them and became one of them and if you look at her ten or so years ago, she looked nothing like that and looked normal.

She's British

Furthermore, Victoria Beckham's lifestyle choices are her own responsibility. She was a no-talent, shallow, self-obsessed mediocrity back when most of the world thought Paris Hilton was the name of a hotel.

Delay

I never once said this is what America is like, I only said some of America, I cannot judge a whole country based on some fake tanned airheads from a part of Los Angeles, all I was trying to say is that the main medium being Television is what a lot of people around the World see what America has to offer to them and it influences them highly, how come we never had such empty and braindead shows like Zoey 101 (kiddie porn for pedophiles provided by the great Disney, I had to watch this while I was babysitting and was stunned at the premise and how wrong it was), Sunset Tan,A Simple Life and all of the "reality TV" bullshit in the 80's?.

I just don't know understand why we are constantly given images and shows of superficial idiots that have nothing to offer the World from America, I mean here is a good example, Victoria fucking Beckham a talentless, stick with dumb fake tits that fell in love with the all of the vapid, camera whores and attention seekers, she admired them and became one of them and if you look at her ten or so years ago, she looked nothing like that and looked normal.

You won't be taking all of those Gucci handbags,$450,000 sunglasses and piles of money when you are six feet under and rolling around in dirt, so what is the fucking point?.

I will always have respect for the America that gave us the incredible art form and culture known as Hip Hop, there is just a side to America that I despise and wish would vanish.

These same little dipshits are the ones that end up sitting next to me at every bar/restaraunt/airplane/train/ect. in europe... "Oh, You're American? BLAH BLAH BLAH!" get a fuggin life, dude.

DJAck

furthermore I have done enough traveling in the middle and the south to perceive an obvious difference in the way folks think and act vs NYC/SF/LA.

as a hillbilly-ass middle american, i totally recognize how infinitely great the coasts are. especially that california...they have movie stars in the government!

DOR

I mean here is a good example, Victoria fucking Beckham a talentless, stick with dumb fake tits that fell in love with the all of the vapid, camera whores and attention seekers, she admired them and became one of them and if you look at her ten or so years ago, she looked nothing like that and looked normal.

She's British

Plus, she did more in the first 6 months of being a spice girl than dude will in his whole life.




I don't get American hate. Until someone can prove that it's 100% better out there somewhere else, it's a bunch of bullshit. Every country out there has good things & bad.


Slavery... While it was a huge shitty thing about the US. Let's not forget there are many many places around the world where slavery is still in full effect.

If were gonna hate... Lets do it up right.

FUKK Greenland!!!

Jonny_Paycheck

Not to play bad vs. worse, but European colonialism in Africa was at least as brutal, and at least as detrimental to Africa's stability and development, as the American slave trade. I'm not too familiar with European politics and society but is this shared legacy ever discussed? When looking at Africa, do Europeans ever admit any culpability in its present state?

GenePontecorvo

once a person leaves the tri state area the quality of MOST things decline rapidly

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I mean, are you including NJ in your "Golden Triangle"?? Beautiful.

Good luck getting your work papers. Maybe one day you'll make it to the promised land.

GenePontecorvo

When looking at Africa America, do Europeans ever admit any culpability in its present state?

Them's just the dudes that didn't have the balls to come over here. God Save the Queen.

Frank

why is around 80% of american television idiotic?
Because 80% of the american people are idiots.
Why do mideastern TV stations air idiotic american produced television?
Because around 80% of mideastern people are idiots.
Why is 100% of all german television idiotic?
Don't press me for an answer please but given the choice of idiotic American television and idiotic German television, I'd go for idiocy with tits and a tan.
Lesser of evils I guess.

GenePontecorvo

Does the idiot ratio really decline outside of here?

Thought it was just a human thing.

theory9

I never once said this is what America is like, I only said some of America, I cannot judge a whole country based on some fake tanned airheads from a part of Los Angeles, all I was trying to say is that the main medium being Television is what a lot of people around the World see what America has to offer to them and it influences them highly, how come we never had such empty and braindead shows like Zoey 101 (kiddie porn for pedophiles provided by the great Disney, I had to watch this while I was babysitting and was stunned at the premise and how wrong it was), Sunset Tan,A Simple Life and all of the "reality TV" bullshit in the 80's?.

I just don't know understand why we are constantly given images and shows of superficial idiots that have nothing to offer the World from America, I mean here is a good example, Victoria fucking Beckham a talentless, stick with dumb fake tits that fell in love with the all of the vapid, camera whores and attention seekers, she admired them and became one of them and if you look at her ten or so years ago, she looked nothing like that and looked normal.

You won't be taking all of those Gucci handbags,$450,000 sunglasses and piles of money when you are six feet under and rolling around in dirt, so what is the fucking point?.

I will always have respect for the America that gave us the incredible art form and culture known as Hip Hop, there is just a side to America that I despise and wish would vanish.

Nobody cares about your other screenname, kala. Go away.

Frank

Not to play bad vs. worse, but European colonialism in Africa was at least as brutal, and at least as detrimental to Africa's stability and development, as the American slave trade. I'm not too familiar with European politics and society but is this shared legacy ever discussed? When looking at Africa, do Europeans ever admit any culpability in its present state?

True, a lot of things like for example the German legacy of genocide and terror in Namibia is just one of the forgotten parts of world history. Same as with the unbelievable genocide of the native Australians by the Brittish. Some things just fall under the table I guess... Don't get me started on the present state of Africa and who's responsible, who's profiting and the absurdity of relief organisations. It's all one gigantic mess and probably close to noone who has never spent some good amount of time down here could possibly have any clue about it. The reality is so bleak and hopeless, it shatters any belief in any form of good in human nature regardless of race and cultural heritage.

But let's stop right here to avoid this idiotic thread turning in any sort of seriously worthwhile discussion.

The_Hook_Up

once a person leaves the tri state area the quality of MOST things decline rapidly

dude do you believe the bullshit you are spouting? It is not "away from the east coast" or "in middle america" or "the south" where the more dispicable mindsets come from...it is outside of the large cities...have you even loooked at the voting results of the big cities? Largely Democrat, anti-Republican. I believe Houston was the only large city to vote for Bush in the entire US(Maybe Nashville) Shit, you can travel 60 miles outside of NYC or Philadelphia and find redneck values and small mindedness....inbetween EVERY large city in the US is Mayberry...on the east coast, the west coast, the north, the south..EVERYWHERE. Your scapegoating of the mid west and south is WAY off dude, and your licking the balls of the east coast as some cultural and intellectual mecca of the US is silly at best.

GenePontecorvo

once a person leaves the tri state area the quality of MOST things decline rapidly

dude do you believe the bullshit you are spouting? It is not "away from the east coast" or "in middle america" or "the south" where the more dispicable mindsets come from...it is outside of the large cities...have you even loooked at the voting results of the big cities? Largely Democrat, anti-Republican. I believe Houston was the only large city to vote for Bush in the entire US(Maybe Nashville) Shit, you can travel 60 miles outside of NYC or Philadelphia and find redneck values and small mindedness....inbetween EVERY large city in the US is Mayberry...on the east coast, the west coast, the north, the south..EVERYWHERE. Your scapegoating of the mid west and south is WAY off dude, and your licking the balls of the east coast as some cultural and intellectual mecca of the US is silly at best.

Just to be clear, I didn't write what is seemingly attributed to me above.

The_Hook_Up

once a person leaves the tri state area the quality of MOST things decline rapidly

dude do you believe the bullshit you are spouting? It is not "away from the east coast" or "in middle america" or "the south" where the more dispicable mindsets come from...it is outside of the large cities...have you even loooked at the voting results of the big cities? Largely Democrat, anti-Republican. I believe Houston was the only large city to vote for Bush in the entire US(Maybe Nashville) Shit, you can travel 60 miles outside of NYC or Philadelphia and find redneck values and small mindedness....inbetween EVERY large city in the US is Mayberry...on the east coast, the west coast, the north, the south..EVERYWHERE. Your scapegoating of the mid west and south is WAY off dude, and your licking the balls of the east coast as some cultural and intellectual mecca of the US is silly at best.

Just to be clear, I didn't write what is seemingly attributed to me above.

sorry, that rant was directed at kala...I was on the second page and you had already quoted the comedy, so i went with that...

Soulhawk

this thread contains some of the dumbest shit I've ever come across on soulstrut

it's official, kala should join Rage Against the Machine

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DocMcCoy

Not to play bad vs. worse, but European colonialism in Africa was at least as brutal, and at least as detrimental to Africa's stability and development, as the American slave trade. I'm not too familiar with European politics and society but is this shared legacy ever discussed? When looking at Africa, do Europeans ever admit any culpability in its present state?

I'd say it's an issue every bit as fractious as it is in the US. There are still people in the UK who haven't got over the fact we don't have an empire anymore, and the legacy of Britain's colonial past is still evident to anyone who cares to look for it. Liverpool, the city of my birth, was pretty much built on the slave trade, for instance. In fact, a large number of city centre streets are named after slave traders - ironically, most of them are in the areas that are traditionally home to the city's black community. Many of Liverpool's older municipal buildings, museums, art galleries, parks and whatever were founded or paid for by slave traders in the name of "good works", which roughly translates as an attempt so assuage or make amends for them having got rich off slavery.

rootlesscosmo

once a person leaves the tri state area the quality of MOST things decline rapidly

for all his faux-liberal, phony universalist values and self-righteous anti-American rage, kala once again proves himself to actually be a small-minded fuck.

I knew it wouldn't be long before the real kala showed his ugly head again.

I FUCKED ETHNIC WOMEN
I like exotic women

Ever Fuck a black woman or a Spanish woman?
[I HAVE}

Egbert_Souse

I think most americans just want to be left alone.

faux_rillz

I'm still puzzling over somebody lecturing SoulStrut posters for purchasing "$450,000 sunglasses"...