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  • Sorry guy, I actually do research and try to find first hand sources if possible.
    Of course you do, on google. Keep posting that third haand information biotch

  • motown67motown67 4,513 Posts

    Sorry guy, I actually do research and try to find first hand sources if possible.
    Of course you do, on google. Keep posting that third haand information biotch

    And you've posted so much, yet so little to this thread. It must be the distractions by the pinko-left, record loving hippies that are keeping you from "dropping knowledge" of which we know so little about Iran's involvement in Iraq.

  • motown67motown67 4,513 Posts

    Sorry guy, I actually do research and try to find first hand sources if possible.
    Of course you do, on google. Keep posting that third haand information biotch

    Unfortunately for you Dolo, but I???ve been researching Iraq since 2002 and have kept pretty extensive files of articles and reports on the subject since then. Here are all the pieces that I have on Iran???s role in Iraq.

    ARTICLES[/b]

    4/24/03 Shiite clerics challenge U.S. goal in Iraq Carolyn Lockhead SF Chronicle
    4/26/03 Iraqi in Iraq urges Shiites to take power Craig Smith SF Chronicle
    7/22/03 Iraqi party helping U.S. reassemble Iran spy unit Neela Banerjee and Douglas Jehl SF Chronicle
    3/22/04 Where Things Stand Terry McCarthy Time
    4/19/04 Is Iran Provoking the Unrest? Massimo Calabresi and Adam Zagorin, with Scott MacLeod and Nahid Siamdoust Time
    4/19/04 Paying The Price Kevin Whitelaw U.S. News & World Report
    5/23/04 Chalabi allegedly used defectors to dupe West Bob Drogin SF Chronicle
    6/28/04 Plan B Seymour Hersh New Yorker
    11/22/04 The Iran Connection Edward Pound U.S. News & World Report
    12/20/04 Seeds Of Chaos Edward Pound U.S. News & World Report
    7/31/05 Iraq Dances With Iran, While America Seethes Edward Wong New York Times
    8/6/05 Some Bombs Used in Iraq Are Made in Iran, U.S. Says Eric Schmitt New York Times
    8/10/05 Car bomber kills 7, injures 90 Bassem Mroue SF Chronicle
    8/11/05 Iraq: Bush's Islamic Republic Peter Galbraith New York Review Of Books
    8/21/05 The Iranian factor in Iraq insurgency Anna Badkhen SF Chronicle
    8/22/05 Inside Iran's Secret War For Iraq Michael Ware Time
    December, 2005 If America Left Iraq Nir Rosen Atlantic Monthly
    12/5/05 U.S. leaders finally have a coherent approach - but patience is wearing thing Michael Hirsh, Scott Johnson and Kevin Peraino Newsweek
    12/14/05 Deadly election-eve violence San Francisco Chronicle SF Chronicle
    12/15/05 Analysis - After Iraq vote success, now for the hard part Alastair Macdonald Reuters
    12/26/05 US-Shiite Struggle Could Spint out of Control Gareth Porter Inter Press Service
    1/5/06 Anger as Britain Admits it was Wrong to Blame Iran for Deaths in Iraq Kim Sengupta, Ben Russell and Terri Judd Independent UK
    1/10/06 Iran bombs link: retraction or non-retraction? Paul Reynolds BBC News.com
    1/17/06 Bush seeks his enemies' help in Iraq Gareth Porter Asia Times
    2/6/06 Exclusive: Direct Talks - U.S. Officials and Iraqi Insurgents Scott Johnson, Rod Nordland and Ranya Kadri Newsweek
    2/15/06 Radical Cleric Rising as a Kingmaker in Iraqi Politics Robert Worth and Sabrina Tavernise New York Times
    3/9/06 The Mess Peter Galbraith New York Review Of Books
    4/9/06 U.S. Study Paints Somber Portrait of Iraqi Discord Eric Schmitt and Edward Wong New York Times
    4/13/06 On Cheney, Rumsfeld order, US outsourcing special ops, intelligence to Iraq terror group, intelligence officials say Larisa Alexandrovna Rawstory.com
    May, 2006 Iraq's resistance evolves Mathieu Guidere and Peter Harling Le Monde diplomatique
    5/16/06 As the bombs fall, Iraq's Kurds have 'no friends but the mountains' Patrick Cockburn Independent UK
    5/21/06 Iraq's cabinet falls short Sami Moubayed Asia Times
    5/21/06 Iran's Iraq Strategy steven Sion and ray Takeyh Washington Post
    7/17/06 In an About-Face, Sunnis Want U.S. to Remain in Iraq Edward Wong and Dexter Filkins New York Times
    7/25/06 Top Iraqi's White House Visit Shows Gaps With U.S. Edward Wong New York Times
    8/15/06 U.S. Offers Plan to Curb Rogue Iraqi Police Forces Solomon Moore Los Angeles Times
    8/27/06 For an Iraq Cut in 3, Cast a Wary Glance at Kurdistan Edward Wong New York Times
    8/31/06 Analysis: Taking on al-Sadr Carries Risk Robert Reid ABC News.com
    9/28/06 Cleric Said to Lose Reins of Parts of Iraqi Militia Sabrina Tavernise New York Times
    9/8/06 A joker in the Shi-ite pack Sami Moubayed Asia Times
    9/13/06 Federalism Plan Dead, Says Iraqi Speaker Amit Paley and K.I. Ibrahim Washington Post
    10/4/06 British Find No Evidence Of Arms Traffic From Iran Ellen Knickmeyer Washington Post
    10/9/06 Experts see no clear options for exiting Iraq Anna Badkhen SF Chronicle
    10/9/06 Iraq police rebrand to foil fakes BBC News BBC News.com
    10/13/06 Beyond the Coup Rumors, Options for Iraq David Ignatius Washington Post
    10/17/06 Interview Lt. Gen. Jay Garner (Ret) PBS Frontline PBS Frontline
    10/18/06 U.S. may have weeks, not months, to avert civil war, adviser warns James Sterngold SF Chronicle
    10/19/06 Militias Splintering Into Radicalized Cells Sudarsan Raghavan Washington Post
    10/24/06 U.S. Officials: Iraqi Security Could be Read in 12-18 Months Debbi Wilgoren and Howard Schneider Washington Post
    10/24/06 Iran's presence in Iraq Dr. Mustafa Alani Khaleej Times
    10/30/06 Partitioning Iraq Juan Cole Salon.com
    11/13/06 The Case For Dividing Iraq Peter Galbraith Time
    11/15/06 Can Iran help stabilize Iraq? Scott Peterson Christian Science Monitor
    11/16/06 US plans last big push in Iraq Simon Tisdall Guardian U.K.
    11/16/06 Sectarian Strife in Iraq Imperils Emtire Region, Analysts Warn Ellen Knickmeyer Washington Post
    11/16/06 Iraq pullout talk makes Iran uneasy Kim Murphy Los Angeles Times
    11/17/06 Violence in Iraq Called Increasingly Complex Walter Pincus Washington Post
    11/21/06 Iran summit idea could assist U.S., analysts say Matthew Stannard SF Chronicle
    11/23/06 Woes for Baker Group Timothy Phelps Newsday
    11/23-29/06 At what price? Salah Hemeid Al-Ahram Weekly Egypt
    11/26/06 Regionalizing Iraq John Tirman Boston Globe
    11/27/06 Report suggets U.S. talk with Iran, Syria David Sanger SF Chronicle
    11/28/06 U.S. Diplomatic Venture Shuts Out Syria And Iran Helene Cooper SF Chronicle
    11/28/06 Hezbollah may be helping militias Michael Gordon and Dexter Filkins SF Chronicle
    11/28/06 Anbar Picture Grows Clearer, and Bleaker Dafna Linzer and Thomas Ricks Washington Post
    11/29/06 Bipartisan war strategy no sure thing Edward Epstein SF Chronicle
    11/29/06 American military concedes daily toll of civilians likely to rise far above 100 Jonathan Steele Guardian U.K.
    11/29/06 In Statement, Defense Choice Criticizes Iraq Planning David Cloud New York Times
    11/29/06 Stepping Into Iraq Nawaf Obaid Washington Post
    12/1/06 Been There, Done That Howard Kurtz Washington Post
    12/4/06 Mr. Gates' Options Michael Duffy Time
    12/4/06 How Al-Sadr May Control U.S. Fate in Iraq Jeffrey Bartholet Newsweek
    12/6/06 Iraqi Premier Moves to Plan Regional Talks Edward Wong and Helene Cooper New York Times
    12/6/06 Neocons Move to Preempmt Baker Report Jim Lobe Inter Press Service
    12/7/06 Threats Wrapped in Misunderstandings Sudarsan Raghavan Washington Post
    12/8/06 Insurgents' bombmaking more lethal Jane Arraf MSNBC.com
    12/8/06 Bush's goal still is victory Carolyn Lockhead SF Chronicle
    12/8/06 The elephant gives birth to a mouse Anthony Cordesman Asia Times
    12/9/06 Iraq heading the Lebanon way Iason Athanasiadis Asia Times
    12/10/06 Iran looks like the winner of the Iraq war Alissa Rubin Los Angeles Times
    12/12/06 Grim Report From Military Experts Michael Fletcher and Thomas Ricks SF Chronicle
    12/13/06 Saudis Say They Might Back Sunnis if U.S. Leaves Iraq Helene Cooper New York Times
    12/14/06 Bush weighing deeper commitment in Iraq, officials say Warren Strobel and Jonathan Landay McClatchy Newspapers
    12/15/06 Iraqis can't be blamed for the chaos unleashed by invasion Jonathan Steele Guardian U.K.
    12/15/06 Could Iran help the US stabilize Iraq? Scott Peterson Christian Science Monitor
    12/17/06 The Whispers and the Why Nots Helene Cooper New York Times
    12/18/06 Saudis report Shi'ite 'state' inside of Iraq Sharon Behn Washington Times
    12/28/06 The Iranian Iraq Salah Hemeid Al-Ahram Weekly Egypt
    1/4/07 Iranians 'up to no good' in Iraq BBC News BBC News.com
    1/5/07 Bush reshapes his team ahead of new Iraq policy Robin Wright and Michael Abramowitz SF Chronicle
    1/11/07 US to target anti-Iraq activity BBC News BBC News.com
    1/12/07 Bush's Iraq Plan, Between the Lines Anthony Cordesman New York Times.com
    1/14/07 Misreading The Enemy Juan Cole San Jose Mercury News
    1/15/07 Opening a New Front in the War, Against Iranians in Iraq David Sanger New York Times
    1/16/07 Iraq Edges Closer to Iran, With or Without the US Louise Roug and Borzou Daragahi Los Angeles Times
    1/16/07 Will Any Iraq Regionalization Strategy Work? John Tirman AlterNet.com
    1/18/07 Retired Generals Criticize Bush's Plan for Iraq John Holusha New York Times
    1/18/07 Iraq insurgents plan to escalate attacks Suleiman al-Khalidi Reuters
    1/19/07 Cheney killed Iran offer in 2003, ex-official says Associated Press Associated Press
    1/19/07 Iraq Signals Changes in Protocols With Iran James Glanz New York Times
    1/22/07 Surge of danger for U.S. troops Robert Bryce Salon.com
    1/23/07 Scant evidence found of Iran-Iraq arms link Alexandra Zavis and Greg Miller Los Angeles Times
    1/26/07 Troops Authorized to Kill Iranian Operatives in Iraq Dafna Linzer Washington Post
    1/28/07 For Iraq, neighbors are key John Daniszewski Associated Press
    1/28/07 Doubt Cast On Dire Exit Scenarios Carolyn Lockhead SF Chronicle
    1/29/07 Fighters for Shiite Messiah Clash with Najaf Security, 250 Dead Juan Cole Thoughts on the Middle East, History, and Religion.com
    1/29/07 Iranian Reveals Plan to Expand Role in Iraq James Glanz New York Times
    1/31/07 Air Force's role in Iraq could grow Julian Barnes Los Angeles Times
    1/31/07 General says U.S. has proof Iran arming Iraqi militias Jim Michaels USA Today
    2/1/07 White House delays making case on Iran Paul Richtet SF Chronicle
    2/1/07 Iraq fears being caught in middle of U.S.-Iran tensions Liz Sly Chicago Tribune
    2/4/07 Doubts Run Deep on Reforms Crucial to Bush's Iraq Strategy Karen DeYoung Washington Post
    2/4/07 Bush Iraq strategy shifts toward containing Iran Laurent Lozano Agence France Presse
    2/8/07 All Iraq's neighbours 'are fueling conflict' Guy Dinmore Financial Times
    2/10/07 Deadliest Bomb in Iraq Is Made by Iran, U.S. Says Michael Gordon New York Times
    2/11/07 Context: Casualties Attributed to Iran's EFPs IraqSlogger.com IraqSlogger.com
    2/12/07 The War: 'Ambiguous' Intel on Iran's Meddling in Iraq Newsweek Newsweek


    NON-GOVERNMENTAL REPORTS[/b]

    6/28/06 The Challenge in Iraq's Other Cities: Basra Lionel Beehner Council On Foreign Relations
    8/31/06 Iraq's Meddlesome Neighbors Lionel Beehner Council On Foreign Relations
    9/27/06 Iraq's Evolving Insurgency and the Risk of Civil War Anthony Cordesman Center for Strategic and International Studies
    November, 2006 Iran, Iraq, And The United States Sherifa Zuhur Strategic Studies Institute
    11/28/06 Iraqi Force Development and the Challenge of Civil War Anthony Cordesman Center for Strategic and International Studies
    12/6/06 The Iraq Study Group Report James Baker and Lee Hamilton Vintage Books
    12/6/06 The Iraq Study Group Report: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly James Phillips and James Jay Carafano Heritage Foundation
    12/14/06 A Plan for Success in Iraq Frederick Kagan American Enterprise Institute
    12/19/06 After Baker-Hamilton: What To Do In Iraq International Crisis Group International Crisis Group
    12/28/06 Key Trends to Watch in Iraq Jeffrey White Washington Institute for Near East Policy
    January, 2007 Things Fall Apart: Containing The Spillover From An Iraqi Civil War Daniel Byman - Kenneth Pollack Saban Center for Middle East Policy at the Brookings Institution
    1/4/07 Looking Beyond A Surge: The Tests a New US Strategy in Iraq Must Meet Anthony Cordesman Center for Strategic and International Studies
    1/12/07 Bush's Iraq Speech Annotated Stephen Zunes Foreign Policy In Focus
    February, 2007 After the Surge Steven Simon Council On Foreign Relations


    GOVERNMENT REPORTS[/b]

    August, 2006 Measuring Stability and Security in Iraq Department of Defense Department of Defense
    November, 2006 Measuring Stability and Security in Iraq Department of Defense Department of Defense
    January, 2007 Prospects for Iraq's Stability: A Challenging Road Ahead National Intelligence Council U.S. Intelligence Community
    2/11/07 Iranian Support for Lethal Activity in Iraq U.S. Government U.S. Government


    And unlike you and your records I can provide photographic evidence that they exist. Here???s scans of just a few articles:

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    So what was that you about you being a punk bitch?

  • ZEN2ZEN2 1,540 Posts

  • Mike_BellMike_Bell 5,736 Posts

    Sorry guy, I actually do research and try to find first hand sources if possible.
    Of course you do, on google. Keep posting that third haand information biotch

    Unfortunately for you Dolo, but I???ve been researching Iraq since 2002 and have kept pretty extensive files of articles and reports on the subject since then. Here are all the pieces that I have on Iran???s role in Iraq...

    So what was that you about you being a punk bitch?
    And his response...


















































































  • motown67motown67 4,513 Posts

    Sorry guy, I actually do research and try to find first hand sources if possible.
    Of course you do, on google. Keep posting that third haand information biotch

    Unfortunately for you Dolo, but I???ve been researching Iraq since 2002 and have kept pretty extensive files of articles and reports on the subject since then. Here are all the pieces that I have on Iran???s role in Iraq...

    So what was that you about you being a punk bitch?
    And his response...


    He cut and ran.

  • motown67motown67 4,513 Posts
    Well since my bitch has nothing to add to this thread this is what I???ve found out about the U.S.???s claims against Iran after a cursory review of some articles.

    1) The U.S. has been making claims that Iran has been involved in attacks on the U.S. since late 2004.

    2) The government and military have been mostly working through three press outlets to make their claims: US News & World Report, the New York Times, and most recently USA Today.

    3) The recent wave of press reports is part of a new campaign by the Bush administration formulated at the end of 2006 as they felt pressure from the Congressional elections and the Iraq Study Group report.

    4) The claims against Iran are not based upon any increase in Iranian activity in Iraq. The latest National Intelligence Estimate by U.S. intelligence said that Iran was not the main cause of violence in Iraq, although they are not helping to make it better.Rather it???s part of a containment policy that the White House has come up with. National Security Advisor Stephen Hadley said in January that it was part of a new plan to take on Iran and that Iraq was the best place to do it. Their idea is that Iran is on the rise in the Middle East with its influence in Iraq, its ties with the new government in Afghanistan, its support of Hezbollah in Lebanon and its nuclear program. The administration thinks that if it pushes the Iranians hard enough in Iraq and Lebanon, that they can contain Iran. The problem is that Iran has the upper hand in most of those situations. It???s also ironic, because the U.S. claimed that invading Iraq would make dealing with Iran easier because they would be intimidated by American power.

    5) The major problem with the argument against Iran is that it???s not consistent, most of the evidence is ambiguous, and based upon assumptions rather than hard proof. The Iranians are definitely arming their Shiite allies in Iraq, but they are not the main cause of casualties to the U.S.

    Here???s a breakdown of some of the major claims about Iran???s involvement in Iraq:

    A) A major claim made in 2004-2005 but that has now been dropped was that Iran was behind the Sunni insurgency. A 2004 article in US News & World Report based upon raw, unanalyzed intelligence claimed that Iran had helped organize some of the first Sunni insurgents groups and was behind one of fhe major Sunni Islamist terrorist groups, Ansar Al-Islam, that was connected to Al Qaeda in Zarqawi???s Al Qaeda in Iraq. Those claims are no longer credible, and not made.

    B) The U.S. claimed that Iran was the major supporter of Sadr, his Mahdi Army and their uprising against the U.S. Sadr has received aid from Iran, but he???s more of a nationalist than the other major Shiite groups in Iraq. While he???ll take money and support, he???s concerned about Iran running the country because he wants to. Sadr has much stronger ties to Hezbollah and has received aid and training from them, as well as tried to model their organization and strategy at both being an armed and humanitarian organization. The U.S. sees Hezbollah as an Iranian puppet however, if Hezbollah does something in Iraq, it???s because Iran told them to. Many analysts believe that Hezbollah has its own independent policies.

    C) Beginning in 2005 the U.S. claimed that a new more powerful form of roadside bomb (IED) was coming from Iran. There are many parts to this claim. 1st The U.S. has claimed that these can not be made in Iraq. However the British in Dec. 2006 captured a group in Basra making the IED???s. The group was made up of members of all the major police units and Shiite factions in the city by the way. An article in Jane???s Intelligence Review also speculated that they are in fact being manufactured in Iraq by a small cell of Hezbollah trained Shiites, and military analysts told the Los Angeles Times that the know-how to make the IED???s is in fact widely known throughout the Middle East. 2nd the U.S. has said that the IED???s are only used by the Shiites which points to Iran???s role, but there are also reports that they???d been used by Sunnis. The U.S. actually captured a Hezbollah manual on making the bombs, but it was found with some Sunni insurgents, not Shiites. The Jane???s article believes that the Sunnis got the info on how to make them from Palestinians. 3rd the U.S. has claimed that the C-4 explosives used in these devices come from Iran. They claim that amounts of C-4 captured in Iraq have the same markings as a shipment of C-4 captured in 2003 heading to the PLO from Hezbollah. The problem with this argument if this is an on-going operation, why would the Iranians be using C-4 from several years ago instead of newly made batches? The Jane???s article says that the C-4 probably came from Hezbollah, not Iran, hence the same markings. 4th the U.S. has also claimed that these IEDs have accounted for a significant amount of U.S. casualties. The website IraqSlogger.com however did a statistical breakdown of the attacks and found that the more powerful IED???s only accounted for 5% of U.S. deaths and only 3.7% of U.S. wounded.

    D) Gen. Odierno, the 2nd in command in Iraq told USA Today that Iran was providing Shiites with RPG-29 grenade launchers and Katyusha rockets. He said that they had Iranian serial numbers on them. The Jane???s Intelligence Review article notes that RPG-29s are ONLY made in Russia. Gen. Abizaid, a former U.S. commander in Iraq, said in Sept. 2006 that only one RPG-29 had been found in Iraq and the U.S. didn???t know where it came from although he speculated that since it had been used by Hezbollah it must have come from Iran.

    E) The administration has also been loose with their words saying that Iran has been arming the ???insurgents.??? Insurgents are generally taken to be the Sunni resistance. The Iranians are definitely arming the Shiite militias, who are not part of the insurgency.

    F) England???s Prime Minsiter Blair has also accused Iran of arming Shiites in Iraq, but they have no found no actual evidence to support the claim. The British Defense Secretary and a British unit in charge of border control in Southern Iraq said that they have not found any Iranian weapons being smuggled into Iraq in 2006.

    G) On 2/11/07 the U.S. released a slide presentation in Iraq on Iran???s alleged role in attacks. It claimed that the Iranian government was behind arms shipments. Two days later the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Pace said that Iran was definitely sending arms to Iraq, but that he didn???t know how much or whether the Iranian government was involved.

  • ElectrodeElectrode Los Angeles 3,127 Posts
    I think this shit has been planned long before 9/11 by the same group of imperialists who actually believe that staking their 'rightful' claim one of the most politically unstable and oil-rich areas on the planet will usher in some sort of magical apocalypse deal.

  • motown67motown67 4,513 Posts
    Here's another example of the assumptions that the U.S. is using in their case against Iran's involvement in Iraq. This is from the LA Times, 2/15/07.

    "A U.S. military explosives expert at the news conference in Baghdad acknowledged that there was no forensic evidence or labels linking the canister-shaped weapons [talking about the more deadly IED's the U.S. has accused Iran of providing to Iraq] to munitions plants in Iran.

    Rather, Army Maj. Marty Weber said, the weapons were similar to those that the Iranian-backed Hezbollah militia used against Israeli forces during Israel's late-1990s occupation of southern Lebanon.

    The link to Iran was based on "historical knowledge of these types of weapons, having first seen their use by an Iranian surrogate terrorist group in 1998," Weber said."

    The argument goes, Hezbollah used it in the past, Hezbollah are Iranian puppets, if the same technology shows up in Iraq then, Iran must be the source.

    Circumstantial at best, faulty logic at worst.

  • pcmrpcmr 5,591 Posts
    Hezbollah are Iranian puppets,

    supported but far from puppets...this aacording to my MEast politics prof

  • deejdeej 5,125 Posts
    Cox & Forkum, for the craziest right wing bs you've ever seen:





  • pcmrpcmr 5,591 Posts



    this is exactly the type of dumb down shit that is fucking up peoples opinion

    So should we hate muslims?...no no no...shiites...ah ok...yeah there the evil ones

    there are different levels of conflict in that country and the US is inthe middle of themix..there is not a clear cut good and bad side...

  • motown67motown67 4,513 Posts
    Fellow Strutter Kala hipped me to this 3-part piece in Harper's Magazine online by Ken Silverstein about whether the U.S. was preparing to go to war with Iran. In the series he interviewed former U.S. intelligence officials, think tank experts, and Middle East analysts. Here's the opening to the first part of the series:

    "War with Iran?
    Part one of an online forum: the independent analysts
    Posted on Tuesday, February 13, 2007. By Ken Silverstein.
    Sources

    [More Washington Babylon]
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    This is War with Iran? by Ken Silverstein, published Tuesday, February 13, 2007. It is part of Washington Babylon, which is part of Harpers.org.

    Last Saturday, the Guardian ran a story stating that ???U.S. preparations for an air strike against Iran are at an advanced stage, in spite of repeated public denials by the Bush administration, according to informed sources in Washington. The present military build-up in the Gulf would allow the U.S. to mount an attack by the spring. But the sources said that if there was an attack, it was more likely next year.???

    The chance of military action certainly seems to be growing. Some in the administration, led by the vice president, seem to want a confrontation with Iran before George W. Bush's term expires. A few days ago, I spoke with a person who is intimately familiar with the official debate on Iran. This person told me that the Pentagon has completed its targeting of hundreds of Iranian sites; and although he did not believe that a strike is imminent or inevitable, he does believe that the White House considers itself to have addressed and overcome all significant obstacles to a military strike.

    So is a military confrontation with Iran coming?"

    Here's the link to the series:

    http://www.harpers.org/sb-war-with-iran-1-1171385486.html

  • kalakala 3,361 Posts
    I think this shit has been planned long before 9/11 by the same group of imperialists who actually believe that staking their 'rightful' claim one of the most politically unstable and oil-rich areas on the planet will usher in some sort of magical apocalypse deal.


    you sound crazeeey son like dusted mint leaves #L13
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