she was good enough to read about, watch on TV and jerk off to, but now that she's dead, people are lining up to spit on her. i guess the high and mighty grew up with a perfect family life, have never been to a strip joint or looked at a skin rag, been drunk/wasted in public, went out with the wrong girl/guy, compromised themselves in order to get ahead or made a bad decision.
hundreds of dark-skinned, poor and anonymous women will die today with absolutely no media coverage, it does make one question the 'importance' of ANS' death. still, in the grand scheme of things, the venom with which people are reacting to her is not warranted, but hardly surprising given the hypocrisy and sexism surrounding sex and celebrity.
there is a difference between making fun of someone who has died and laughing at the fact that she died.
she was good enough to read about, watch on TV and jerk off to, but now that she's dead, people are lining up to spit on her. i guess the high and mighty grew up with a perfect family life, have never been to a strip joint or looked at a skin rag, been drunk/wasted in public, went out with the wrong girl/guy, compromised themselves in order to get ahead or made a bad decision.
hundreds of dark-skinned, poor and anonymous women will die today with absolutely no media coverage, it does make one question the 'importance' of ANS' death. still, in the grand scheme of things, the venom with which people are reacting to her is not warranted, but hardly surprising given the hypocrisy and sexism surrounding sex and celebrity.
there is a difference between making fun of someone who has died and laughing at the fact that she died.
Wait, Im confused now, what is the difference??......Which one is the funny one???
Or morally correct might have been a better choice of words. Are you just pointing out that there is a difference or that one is better than the other. Thats where my confusion to this statement is.
she was good enough to read about, watch on TV and jerk off to, but now that she's dead, people are lining up to spit on her. i guess the high and mighty grew up with a perfect family life, have never been to a strip joint or looked at a skin rag, been drunk/wasted in public, went out with the wrong girl/guy, compromised themselves in order to get ahead or made a bad decision.
hundreds of dark-skinned, poor and anonymous women will die today with absolutely no media coverage, it does make one question the 'importance' of ANS' death. still, in the grand scheme of things, the venom with which people are reacting to her is not warranted, but hardly surprising given the hypocrisy and sexism surrounding sex and celebrity.
there is a difference between making fun of someone who has died and laughing at the fact that she died.
Wait, Im confused now, what is the difference??......Which one is the funny one???
Or morally correct might have been a better choice of words. Are you just pointing out that there is a difference or that one is better than the other. Thats where my confusion to this statement is.
i take it (and somewhat agree) that is 'okay' to make fun of ANS whether dead or alive. but making fun of her 'dying' is not okay.
either way this thread sucks. $50 goes to Raj/SS if no one posts after me....
Shying away from the topic of disrespect, it's always sad to see anyone screw up their life and those around them but the media comparing Anna Nicole Smith to Marilyn Monroe seems at the least retarded. Jayne Mansfield would probably be a little closer to the mark.
She's probably closer to Jayne as far as not being seen as much more than a model and sex symbol by the public, but closer to Marilyn due to the self-destructive and personal demons angle.
the new rumor is that the father of her newborn was actually her own son... and that's why she was refusing the paternity tests.
WOAH
without making assumptions or jumping to any conclusions , if that rumor is true that could help to explain some of the reasons these things have happened to her family over the last year.
I think someone already mentioned this, but Ol Dirty Bastard was a walking car crash who OD'd on coke leaving behind who-knows-how-many kids, and Strutters have no problem with him. What is so different between him and Anna Nicole, other than the fact that ODB made some records that we all love?
I believe you just named the difference. And it's a sizable difference. People hated ANS's celebrity, hated what they saw her symbolizing. Personally, I'm not going out of my way to disrespect her - to me, she's a tragic figure (partially of her own doing) and her death cements that. On the flipside, this idea that we're supposed to treat her as the people's princess just b/c she left behind a baby is just ridiculous.
Sorry people but parenthood does not = instant sainthood. There's a lot of unredeemable people in the world with kids.
Why do people care so much about he contribution to society, her fame, or any of this stuff? She died. She was young and she died. She might have invited death, but that doesn't mean that this isn't a sad tale of self destruction. I can't be pissed at her hustle. She made money & became famous over some dumb BS, but really who cares? That's on her. And dudes need to check themselves. One of the guys who was getting all pissy in this thread is that guy from Danno's story a few years back, the guy who ditched his girlfriend after she had an abortion to go digging for records. He left her standing outside the record store in the rain cause he needed to see what crappy ass records just showed up at Beatnick or some schitt.
And dudes need to check themselves. One of the guys who was getting all pissy in this thread is that guy from Danno's story a few years back, the guy who ditched his girlfriend after she had an abortion to go digging for records. He left her standing outside the record store in the rain cause he needed to see what crappy ass records just showed up at Beatnick or some schitt.
Wow... well, um, at least he doesn't partake of celebrity junk culture.
And dudes need to check themselves. One of the guys who was getting all pissy in this thread is that guy from Danno's story a few years back, the guy who ditched his girlfriend after she had an abortion to go digging for records. He left her standing outside the record store in the rain cause he needed to see what crappy ass records just showed up at Beatnick or some schitt.
Wow... well, um, at least he doesn't partake of celebrity junk culture.
Like whoa. This thread might just to jam on the collective brakes on this one.
Guzzo - I'm still waiting for you to answer my questions, surely ignoring them is disrepectful to me and perhaps even others on the board who may be interested in your insightful wisdom about orphans.
No PM's either thanks - just reply on here.
And given your touching compassion for orphans, did you know that there are over 40 million orphans in sub saharan Africa alone? How often does the plight of these people cross your mind? Have you seen any articles about this in the main stream media lately? Can you tell me how many children have been orphaned in Iraq since the American war on terror rolled into that country?
Dude: your argument is fantastically unsuited to this thread.
Seeing as you are so concerned with sub-saharan orphans, i suggest you sell your computer and donate the money to African orphans.
As a bonus we wont have to read your drivel.
Anna Nicole Smith: Damn... i heard the 1st of what im sure will be many Marilyn Monroe comparisons today. RIP.
Shying away from the topic of disrespect, it's always sad to see anyone screw up their life and those around them but the media comparing Anna Nicole Smith to Marilyn Monroe seems at the least retarded. Jayne Mansfield would probably be a little closer to the mark.
I actually kind of disagree with you. If marilyn monroe were alive in this day in age- she would probably on some lindsay lohan steez. she died under similar circumstances to ANS. there is a much different level of involvement from the press nowadays. monroe would be much more in the public eye. would the affair with both Kennedy's fly in this day in age??? Monroe is completely romanticized nowadays.
ODB gets props because of his musicianship and his lyrical skills.
ANS got no props from me before she died. I'll morn her death. I will not give her props for nothing that she done.
As for a role model for plus sized women. Give me a break. Oprah, Queen Lateefah, are smart, intelligent, rich, powerful, beautiful and plus size. ANS was a silicone porn star, that is no kind of role model.
On a sadder still note. Our morning papers headline on the story of her death was something like; Lawyers Circle Around Anna Nicole's Orphan. She did not knock the Astronaut off our front page. Astronaut got a front page story ANS page 4.
I didn't say she deserved "props", and no one is calling for a holiday in her name or anything like that. All I (and I think the other people) am saying is that it shouldn't be too much to ask to be a bit respectful of another human beings passing. You would think she was up there with Sadaam the way people are talking about her around here. I was never a fan of hers at all, but damn...
I think someone already mentioned this, but Ol Dirty Bastard was a walking car crash who OD'd on coke leaving behind who-knows-how-many kids, and Strutters have no problem with him. What is so different between him and Anna Nicole, other than the fact that ODB made some records that we all love?
I believe you just named the difference. And it's a sizable difference. People hated ANS's celebrity, hated what they saw her symbolizing. Personally, I'm not going out of my way to disrespect her - to me, she's a tragic figure (partially of her own doing) and her death cements that. On the flipside, this idea that we're supposed to treat her as the people's princess just b/c she left behind a baby is just ridiculous.
Sorry people but parenthood does not = instant sainthood. There's a lot of unredeemable people in the world with kids.
Just to play devil's advocate here, don't you think there weren't millions of people who saw ODB as just as bad or worse of a person as ANS? A famous musician who proudly was filmed on TV collecting welfare benefits he didn't necessarily need or deserve, to feed the fairly large number of illegitimate kids he had by numerous women who he wasn't married to? Arrested numerous times, and finally dead of (not his first) drug overdose? This is someone worthy of more respect? Dope lyrics does not = instant sainthood either.
For the record, I ama huge ODB fan and have never had any even passing interest in ANS. I just find the venomous reaction some people are having to her death a bit hypocritical.
this all so silly. RIp lady. she lived a media circus and now she dies and the show must go on. all the twists and turns and hollow celebrity rich losers scrambling to get a piece of her orphan are all just little sucker ass show ponies who only deserve our amusement. i feel bad for the child, but theres millions of worse off kids in the world.
and she looked fine back in the natural days. my budy just commented that shes dead, but her implants will live forever.
the new rumor is that the father of her newborn was actually her own son... and that's why she was refusing the paternity tests.
WOAH
MY MIND IS SPINNING...
Well, did you hear the one about the Mud Shark? Or the Rod Stewart stomach pump situation? Or Marylyn Manson sacrificing children at concerts to sate the evil desires of his lord and saviour, Satan?
Jesus, people. Grow up. This is not urbanfuckinglegends.com. This is not Perez Hilton's site. This is (ostensibly) a record-collectors' board called SoulStrut.com.
A female celebrity just died. None of us knew her personally. Leave her alone.
Anyone like Free Jazz? I think Def Jux is like ESP for 2000. Discuss.
the new rumor is that the father of her newborn was actually her own son... and that's why she was refusing the paternity tests.
WOAH
MY MIND IS SPINNING...
Well, did you hear the one about he Mud Shark? Or the Rod Stewart stomach pump situation? Or Marylyn Manson sacrificing children at concerts to sate the evil desires of his lord and saviour, Satan?
Jesus, people. Grow up. This is not urbanfuckinglegends.com. This is not Perez Hilton's site. This is (ostensibly) a record-collectors' board called SoulStrut.com.
A female celebrity just died. None of us knew her personally. Leave her alone.
Anyone like Free Jazz? I think Def Jux is like ESP 2000. Discuss.
As for a role model for plus sized women. Give me a break. Oprah, Queen Lateefah, are smart, intelligent, rich, powerful, beautiful and plus size. ANS was a silicone porn star, that is no kind of role model.
I was talking about in the fashion & modeling world.
As for a role model for plus sized women. Give me a break. Oprah, Queen Lateefah, are smart, intelligent, rich, powerful, beautiful and plus size. ANS was a silicone porn star, that is no kind of role model.
I was talking about in the fashion & modeling world.
As for a role model for plus sized women. Give me a break. Oprah, Queen Lateefah, are smart, intelligent, rich, powerful, beautiful and plus size. ANS was a silicone porn star, that is no kind of role model.
I was talking about in the fashion & modeling world.
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there is a difference between making fun of someone who has died and laughing at the fact that she died.
Wait, Im confused now, what is the difference??......Which one is the funny one???
Or morally correct might have been a better choice of words. Are you just pointing out that there is a difference or that one is better than the other. Thats where my confusion to this statement is.
i take it (and somewhat agree) that is 'okay' to make fun of ANS whether dead or alive. but making fun of her 'dying' is not okay.
either way this thread sucks. $50 goes to Raj/SS if no one posts after me....
She's probably closer to Jayne as far as not being seen as much more than a model and sex symbol by the public, but closer to Marilyn due to the self-destructive and personal demons angle.
WOAH
without making assumptions or jumping to any conclusions , if that rumor is true that could help to explain some of the reasons these things have happened to her family over the last year.
sweet jeeezus.
I am sorry she died. But she *was* mad as cheese and it was never going to have a happy ending.
I believe you just named the difference. And it's a sizable difference. People hated ANS's celebrity, hated what they saw her symbolizing. Personally, I'm not going out of my way to disrespect her - to me, she's a tragic figure (partially of her own doing) and her death cements that. On the flipside, this idea that we're supposed to treat her as the people's princess just b/c she left behind a baby is just ridiculous.
Sorry people but parenthood does not = instant sainthood. There's a lot of unredeemable people in the world with kids.
''She was a very sexy woman,'' von Anhalt said. ''To have an affair with her is the top, you know.''
Wow... well, um, at least he doesn't partake of celebrity junk culture.
Like whoa. This thread might just to jam on the collective brakes on this one.
I actually kind of disagree with you. If marilyn monroe were alive in this day in age- she would probably on some lindsay lohan steez. she died under similar circumstances to ANS. there is a much different level of involvement from the press nowadays. monroe would be much more in the public eye. would the affair with both Kennedy's fly in this day in age??? Monroe is completely romanticized nowadays.
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ODB gets props because of his musicianship and his lyrical skills.
ANS got no props from me before she died. I'll morn her death. I will not give her props for nothing that she done.
As for a role model for plus sized women. Give me a break. Oprah, Queen Lateefah, are smart, intelligent, rich, powerful, beautiful and plus size. ANS was a silicone porn star, that is no kind of role model.
On a sadder still note. Our morning papers headline on the story of her death was something like; Lawyers Circle Around Anna Nicole's Orphan. She did not knock the Astronaut off our front page. Astronaut got a front page story ANS page 4.
Just to play devil's advocate here, don't you think there weren't millions of people who saw ODB as just as bad or worse of a person as ANS? A famous musician who proudly was filmed on TV collecting welfare benefits he didn't necessarily need or deserve, to feed the fairly large number of illegitimate kids he had by numerous women who he wasn't married to? Arrested numerous times, and finally dead of (not his first) drug overdose? This is someone worthy of more respect? Dope lyrics does not = instant sainthood either.
For the record, I ama huge ODB fan and have never had any even passing interest in ANS. I just find the venomous reaction some people are having to her death a bit hypocritical.
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this all so silly. RIp lady. she lived a media circus and now she dies and the show must go on. all the twists and turns and hollow celebrity rich losers scrambling to get a piece of her orphan are all just little sucker ass show ponies who only deserve our amusement. i feel bad for the child, but theres millions of worse off kids in the world.
and she looked fine back in the natural days. my budy just commented that shes dead, but her implants will live forever.
Well, did you hear the one about the Mud Shark? Or the Rod Stewart stomach pump situation? Or Marylyn Manson sacrificing children at concerts to sate the evil desires of his lord and saviour, Satan?
Jesus, people. Grow up. This is not urbanfuckinglegends.com. This is not Perez Hilton's site. This is (ostensibly) a record-collectors' board called SoulStrut.com.
A female celebrity just died. None of us knew her personally. Leave her alone.
Anyone like Free Jazz? I think Def Jux is like ESP for 2000. Discuss.
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I was talking about in the fashion & modeling world.
Her Guess ads were an example of that.