Imagine if the first movie about elvis was about the 48 hours where he was stuck naked on the toilet trying to take a shit and then accidentaly died?
Or if they made a movie about jesus and all they talked about was the time he was crucified? Oh.
Seriously though, I live near Baltimore, which has like 16 times the national rate of heroin use. Some estimates have 35-40% of the population using. This drug was designed by I.G. Farben to be a heroic enslaver of the masses, hence the name. I used to share Frank's attitude of it being their own fault, and that maybe partially true. Trying that shit may be the acme of foolishness, but as Bsides and Bambouche said, most people don't start unless there is some profound physical or emotional pain at the center of it. That whole fucking city is a nexus of depression. I love it and hate it at the same time.
"whow, I would have never thought, not only does this white powdery substance make me feel real good, it also makes me sell my ass, steal from my friends, rob my mother's house and kill my grannie. Help, I think I'm addicted, society, please rush to the rescue!"
uh... pardon me. i am trying not to chime in, but this shit is retarded. drug addiction is a ILLNESS you butthole. not some logical, off-the-cuff decision like eating a peanut butter sandwich. i thought this was like a known fact. jesus dude, are you like part of the flat earth society and shit?
Hahaha... that's a good one... it's an illness, of course it is.
You're insulting everybody who is really suffering from an illness.
Of course it's you're choice which drugs if any you want to consume.
I would even go as far as to considder drug consumtion a typical "off-the-cuff-decission like eating a peanut butter sandwich".
I feel bad for all kids growing up in an enviroment surrounded by drugs with noone teaching them what they're really getting themselves into but some silly emo indie teenage angst art fag... illness my ass!
If you don't have enough sense to stay away from stuff that you can't handle, that's too bad... if it makes anyone feel any better, hell, call it an illness, personaly I think that's laughable but what do I know, where I come from, people still teach darwinism at school. Also never heard of any flat earth society but I wouldn't be surprised if there would be one somewhere, maybe rewriting schoolbooks as we speak...
well i went into Elephant thinking it was gonna be some bullshit columbine examination and instead i was surprised at how much restraint Van Zandt was able to muster.. really enjoyed that flic.. and this one is suppossedly along the same lines.
I'll co-sign on this one. I saw this and wasn't impressed right off the bat but I just kept thinking about it for days. It really REALLY sticks in your mind.
they told me i had a stomach ulcer in 6th grade. i have photos of me drinking maalox at the kitchen table. STRAIGHT OUTTA DA BOTTLE.
then in the '90s they told me it wasn't an ulcer, it was stress, and i should "take these."
i used to keep a list of all the people i knew who had a case of the stomachs.
I also had stomach pains since my early teens. Had my first gastritis at the age of 14.
Just recently I found out that acid reflux was also the cause to a chronic cough and bronchial asthma because at night, stomach acid would flow straight up my throat and start devouring my larynx, coughing would create a mist of acid that would reach the bronchial area.
You should see a good specialist and get the right medication to cure the inflamations you have. Be prepared that they will shove some three foot long tube down your throat but with a history of stomach pains, you've probably had this done before. There's some excelent stuff called Pantozol which doesn't try to neutralize acid like most other stuff around but directly affects the little "proton-pumps" that produce stomach acid.
I just checked and this medication doesn't exist in the US at least not under the same brand name. You should ask for a "proton pump inhibitor". This shit is pretty expensive, about 2 bucks a pill and you'll need one a day. Well worth it, though, I was pain free for the first time in many years within about 10 days.
Try to elevate the top end of your bed to help keep things down where they belong. Most important thing is to keep a balanced diet and stop eating any food about 6-8 hours before you go to bed. Stop drinking and smoking, at least during the week. I started living a healthier life on weekdays and after a while stopped taking the medication on a daily basis. I only use it whenever I plan on going out, drink a lot of alcohol, dine big and late and do other unhealthy things...
i once knew a dude that got hooked on tar. well, he got rehooked on tar. i mean, i worked with dude and he had just got out of prison on some other shit, and dude was trying to put his life back together. and i fully supported my dude. he was a good person. meant to do good. but then he started hanging around in his old neighborhood, with his old buddies and started fucking with tar again. well, he started fucking up at work, etc. and they let him go. one day he called me up and asked to borrow $50 which i gladly gave him and then i threw out his number, erased it from my phone, and basically cut off all contact. see, the thing with drugs is, you gotta want to kick it. its tough work. i dont know if its really a disease or not, but i do think its best to think of it as a disease and not some "bad habit" one can kick. see, that's the problem with people. they got god complexes. they think they can handle anything and nothing is beyond their control. but addiction is way beyond anyone's control. in all honesty, there may be some folks out there that can kick the disease on their own. hell, there are also people out there that can suck their own dicks. dont mean we all can. now me, i wasnt about to get caught up in the dudes life. im sorry, that aint me. he was a great friend, and a good person, and for all i know he kicked his problems and is well on his way to a healthy life. but im not that dude that is gonna get consumed and dragged down with an addict. i know its fucked up to say, but im sorry. i got my own problems to worry about. and i aint no fool. shit just messes with everyone.
in any case, what does this have to do with curt cobain and that new movie? i dont know. probably nothing. culture turned on a dime when nirvana hit it big tho. and that's undeniable. whether they shouldve been pegged as the crux of this shift in culture is up for debate. but the fact remains that they wee somehow chosen as the example. so there.
I a couple friends who used to suffer horribly from stomach pains. Recently both were diagnosed with some varieties of food allergies (gluten-related for the most part) and adjustments in diet have been effective for them...
So far, the diagnoses amongst my group:
wheat allergies
gluten allergies
chuck had his spleen removed (didn't help)
stress-related (w/ various medications prescribed)
acid reflux
too much beer
a gang of different diet recommendations (all w/ different remedies & side effects)
most of my friends just rely on weed. or pills. or suicide.
yes, the stomach thing usually comes into play. BUT, Its almost too convenient of an excuse for me to take it completely seriously. Like, I know shit hurts when you've been doing junk for a while and then you stop. Thats cause you can feel shit again!
I also believe that in some cases this type of stomach pain is psychosomatic. Not to say that its any less real than it is, but that its probably brought on by the brain.
I periodically shift between an attitude thats sort of like frank's, where Im pissed off about it and the point where I just feel sad about it.
heroin probaly worsens the stomach thing much more since it relaxes all muscles in your body. The muscle which closes your stomach will release acid into your gullet and up your throat and you probably don't even feel a thing. I bet it worsens the acid reflux a great deal while simultanously taking away the pain... not a pleasant thought.
thats shitty. I hope it doesnt try to make something heroic out of the slow self destruction of a heroin addict. I just lost another friend to that bullshit this week, and I really cant see any more need to further glamorize such a cowardly retreat from life.
Bsides - I feel what you're saying, but I have to agree with what Dubious said about Gus Van Sant's Elephant. Seeing the trailer for that I felt a little disgusted at what looked like a good-looking, fashionable, MTV take on the Columbine shooting - exploitive.
Elephant only opened in one theater in the my area, playing only on weekends, and after reading a really good review, I hesitantly checked it out. I was completely surprised. It wasn't at all exploitive, and all of my ideas based on the trailer were wrong. Elephant wasn't sympathetic or unsympathetic to any of the characters and it made me realise that I hadn't seen any event of this sort ever depicted this way in movies, tv, documentaries, etc.
Every movie like depicts young hip heroin-using fuckups is always ends up being hypocritical morality play - think of Trainspotting, Sid & Nancy - they make a lame attempt at showing the bad side of things, but they did nothing but help make being a lowlife seem in vogue. I don't have that same worry with Last Days.
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Or if they made a movie about jesus and all they talked about was the time he was crucified? Oh.
Seriously though, I live near Baltimore, which has like 16 times the national rate of heroin use. Some estimates have 35-40% of the population using. This drug was designed by I.G. Farben to be a heroic enslaver of the masses, hence the name. I used to share Frank's attitude of it being their own fault, and that maybe partially true. Trying that shit may be the acme of foolishness, but as Bsides and Bambouche said, most people don't start unless there is some profound physical or emotional pain at the center of it. That whole fucking city is a nexus of depression. I love it and hate it at the same time.
they told me i had a stomach ulcer in 6th grade. i have photos of me drinking maalox at the kitchen table. STRAIGHT OUTTA DA BOTTLE.
then in the '90s they told me it wasn't an ulcer, it was stress, and i should "take these."
i used to keep a list of all the people i knew who had a case of the stomachs.
Hahaha... that's a good one... it's an illness, of course it is.
You're insulting everybody who is really suffering from an illness.
Of course it's you're choice which drugs if any you want to consume.
I would even go as far as to considder drug consumtion a typical "off-the-cuff-decission like eating a peanut butter sandwich".
I feel bad for all kids growing up in an enviroment surrounded by drugs with noone teaching them what they're really getting themselves into but some silly emo indie teenage angst art fag... illness my ass!
If you don't have enough sense to stay away from stuff that you can't handle, that's too bad... if it makes anyone feel any better, hell, call it an illness, personaly I think that's laughable but what do I know, where I come from, people still teach darwinism at school. Also never heard of any flat earth society but I wouldn't be surprised if there would be one somewhere, maybe rewriting schoolbooks as we speak...
I'll co-sign on this one. I saw this and wasn't impressed right off the bat but I just kept thinking about it for days. It really REALLY sticks in your mind.
I also had stomach pains since my early teens. Had my first gastritis at the age of 14.
Just recently I found out that acid reflux was also the cause to a chronic cough and bronchial asthma because at night, stomach acid would flow straight up my throat and start devouring my larynx, coughing would create a mist of acid that would reach the bronchial area.
You should see a good specialist and get the right medication to cure the inflamations you have. Be prepared that they will shove some three foot long tube down your throat but with a history of stomach pains, you've probably had this done before. There's some excelent stuff called Pantozol which doesn't try to neutralize acid like most other stuff around but directly affects the little "proton-pumps" that produce stomach acid.
I just checked and this medication doesn't exist in the US at least not under the same brand name. You should ask for a "proton pump inhibitor". This shit is pretty expensive, about 2 bucks a pill and you'll need one a day. Well worth it, though, I was pain free for the first time in many years within about 10 days.
Try to elevate the top end of your bed to help keep things down where they belong. Most important thing is to keep a balanced diet and stop eating any food about 6-8 hours before you go to bed. Stop drinking and smoking, at least during the week. I started living a healthier life on weekdays and after a while stopped taking the medication on a daily basis. I only use it whenever I plan on going out, drink a lot of alcohol, dine big and late and do other unhealthy things...
i once knew a dude that got hooked on tar. well, he got rehooked on tar. i mean, i worked with dude and he had just got out of prison on some other shit, and dude was trying to put his life back together. and i fully supported my dude. he was a good person. meant to do good. but then he started hanging around in his old neighborhood, with his old buddies and started fucking with tar again. well, he started fucking up at work, etc. and they let him go. one day he called me up and asked to borrow $50 which i gladly gave him and then i threw out his number, erased it from my phone, and basically cut off all contact. see, the thing with drugs is, you gotta want to kick it. its tough work. i dont know if its really a disease or not, but i do think its best to think of it as a disease and not some "bad habit" one can kick. see, that's the problem with people. they got god complexes. they think they can handle anything and nothing is beyond their control. but addiction is way beyond anyone's control. in all honesty, there may be some folks out there that can kick the disease on their own. hell, there are also people out there that can suck their own dicks. dont mean we all can. now me, i wasnt about to get caught up in the dudes life. im sorry, that aint me. he was a great friend, and a good person, and for all i know he kicked his problems and is well on his way to a healthy life. but im not that dude that is gonna get consumed and dragged down with an addict. i know its fucked up to say, but im sorry. i got my own problems to worry about. and i aint no fool. shit just messes with everyone.
in any case, what does this have to do with curt cobain and that new movie? i dont know. probably nothing. culture turned on a dime when nirvana hit it big tho. and that's undeniable. whether they shouldve been pegged as the crux of this shift in culture is up for debate. but the fact remains that they wee somehow chosen as the example. so there.
yes, the stomach thing usually comes into play. BUT, Its almost too convenient of an excuse for me to take it completely seriously. Like, I know shit hurts when you've been doing junk for a while and then you stop. Thats cause you can feel shit again!
I also believe that in some cases this type of stomach pain is psychosomatic. Not to say that its any less real than it is, but that its probably brought on by the brain.
I periodically shift between an attitude thats sort of like frank's, where Im pissed off about it and the point where I just feel sad about it.
Bsides - I feel what you're saying, but I have to agree with what Dubious said about Gus Van Sant's Elephant. Seeing the trailer for that I felt a little disgusted at what looked like a good-looking, fashionable, MTV take on the Columbine shooting - exploitive.
Elephant only opened in one theater in the my area, playing only on weekends, and after reading a really good review, I hesitantly checked it out. I was completely surprised. It wasn't at all exploitive, and all of my ideas based on the trailer were wrong. Elephant wasn't sympathetic or unsympathetic to any of the characters and it made me realise that I hadn't seen any event of this sort ever depicted this way in movies, tv, documentaries, etc.
Every movie like depicts young hip heroin-using fuckups is always ends up being hypocritical morality play - think of Trainspotting, Sid & Nancy - they make a lame attempt at showing the bad side of things, but they did nothing but help make being a lowlife seem in vogue. I don't have that same worry with Last Days.