Fuck yes. Hatters be gone. I am excited for this shit!
To quote Awww Damn, "You go GIRL!"
I love my bitch.
The day the hippies took over. I'm starting a website where I'm collecting photos of sad-faced Americans and apologizing to the Kurds, the Cubans, the Israelis and the Taiwanese. Sorry World, we tried. Plus to fuck my day up even more, Sandinista leader, Daniel Ortega wins in Nicaragua! Just in time to reunite with his old freinds in Congress. Have fun raising taxes and betraying Iraq's fledgling democracy.
Are there two Vitamins? One guy is a thoughtful political analyst who might have contrasting politics to others on the board but they're at least well-reasoned but then there's this other Vitamin who sounds nothing like the former.
I mean, the hippies didn't take over - even as hyperbole, the statement is fucking idiotic. The reasons the Dems took over is largely because MODERATE Dems were elected (often times beating out moderate Republicans). It's not as if America suddenly decided to lean far left.
Dub,
Cut me a little slack dude. The Sandinistas are back and I am going to have start writing the phrase "chairman John Conyers." I remember in 2004, this board was a little grief stricken and prone to hyperbole regarding Bush on November 8. I'm fine and all, just a little bitter and pissed off. I did not want the Democrats to win. So forgive me if I am prone to some harmless and crude cultural stereotypes. Food co-op managers, stilt walkers, quilt makers, guatemalan bead sellers, holistic medicine practitioners, the tie-dyers of tee shirts and the organizers of drum circles are probably having a terrific pot party right now with their gluten free ice cream and Hot Tuna records. Let's make peace . . . . and stop the war. Put down your gun. Pick up your baby. UGGH. I'll be in the corner of the bar with a martini and nixonian scowl.
LOL!
Man, all those people you described don't even VOTE! Or they vote Green Party because "my vote don't matter"(What's Up, Crink!)....face it, the Republicans got spanked in the House because THEY CAN'T GOVERN and moderates from both parties saw through the rhetoric about Dems being pussies on National Security and the GOP BULLSHIT that they are the only ones who can handle foreign policy. GOP hasn't handled shit, and that's why they lost.
Scowl away, buddy, the Middle won today, not the fuckin' hippies!
Scowl away, buddy, the Middle won today, not the fuckin' hippies!
I'm saying. Real leftists aren't necessarily any happier today than folks on the right are.
And in any case V, I'm not saying this to rub shit in but the Dems didn't really win so much as the GOP imploded: take your pick over what - corruption, Iraq, family value hypocrisy, the Bush presidency, writ large.
The hippies never win. But sometimes, bad leaders lose.
The guy standing in the way of success in Iraq was Rumsfeld. Not the only one but certainly a big roadblock to progress. Do you think that he would have left if the Republicans had won?
The Dems are going to HAVE to get Iraq right... they just inherited one of the biggest messes in generations.
The guy standing in the way of success in Iraq was Rumsfeld. Not the only one but certainly a big roadblock to progress. Do you think that he would have left if the Republicans had won?
The Dems are going to HAVE to get Iraq right... they just inherited one of the biggest messes in generations.
Johnny,
I am writing about Gates, who is a disaster. I don't feel like engaging. But yes, Rumsfeld sucked. Let a man be bitter and cranky. Hippy.
Fuck yes. Hatters be gone. I am excited for this shit!
To quote Awww Damn, "You go GIRL!"
I love my bitch.
The day the hippies took over. I'm starting a website where I'm collecting photos of sad-faced Americans and apologizing to the Kurds, the Cubans, the Israelis and the Taiwanese. Sorry World, we tried. Plus to fuck my day up even more, Sandinista leader, Daniel Ortega wins in Nicaragua! Just in time to reunite with his old freinds in Congress. Have fun raising taxes and betraying Iraq's fledgling democracy.
Sorry to pile on. I know you are only felling down.
Cheer up. Back when the Dems were in control all of Latin America and the Caribbean were Democratic. The Kurds were secure under US Air defense, Cuba was isolated, Israel was moving towards peace and Taiwan had strong support. All that has changed today. Democracy is fleeing the Caribbean, the Kurds are no better off, Cuba is much stronger and Israel has never been weaker. Now that the Republicans have sold the National Dept to China we can all kiss Taiwan good bye.
Lets face it you hate freedom. You hate democracy in: Nicaragua Venezuela Iran Palestine Lebanon and the USA
For real we should stop celebrating, and you should start feeling better, because, Bush is still large and in charge, and a little bit of oversight is a good thing.
The things we all want peace, freedom, democracy, health care, human rights, an end to poverty, are no closer today than yesterday.
but they won't. they will retreat just like the GOP would have after the midterms. isn't this obvious? no one can win there under the current geopolitical circumstances.
If it were only pot, you could do that, wait it out with a 'tini like you said.
But the thing is, everybody's going back on angel dust, like, now. So get the hell out the bar before little dudes start going buck wilde off that dust. And definitely stay off the roads, not just for the dusted drivers, but because the cars are bound to fall apart. When you have a nation of dusted auto factory workers and dusted mechanics, all on that angel dust, I would stay off the roads if I were you.
In addition to that, forthcoming policies of appeasement will allow our roads to get terraced. I mean to invite tourists. I mean dangerous with fanatics hiding in terraced highway landscaping. Dirty bombs are already in this country, and these dusted liquor-breath disco freaks who just took office are going to just stand by while danger happens.
Feinstein, Pelosi pressure team's owner [/b] to reopen decision on Santa Clara move
- Cecilia M. Vega and John Cot??, Chronicle Staff Writers
Saturday, November 11, 2006
Negotiations to keep the 49ers in San Francisco will officially resume next week after two of California's most powerful politicians intervened, officials on both sides of the talks told The Chronicle.
Two days after the team abruptly announced its plans to move to Santa Clara, Sen. Dianne Feinstein on Friday gathered Mayor Gavin Newsom, his chief of staff and 49ers co-owner John York and his son, Jed, in her San Francisco office for a morning meeting.
House Speaker-to-be Nancy Pelosi also phoned John York and left him a message expressing her disappointment and telling him it is "unacceptable for the 49ers to leave San Francisco," according to an aide.
Though the team agreed to resume talks with San Francisco, it also will continue negotiating with Santa Clara to build a new stadium there.
The new development, however, left Newsom feeling like "nothing's changed."
"No new expectations have been raised," he said after the meeting in Feinstein's office.
While on Thursday the mayor angrily denounced the team's decision to move to the South Bay and vowed that the city would explore legal options to keep the Niners from leaving, on Friday he referred to the meeting as "great," "nice" and "not supposed to be made public."
"It was good to get together right away before letting a month go by and then more animus is created," Newsom said. "That was the spirit of the meeting, to say 'Let's just get together and let's try and tone it down,' but at the same time to be resolved that we don't want the team to leave, but it's not an at-all-costs strategy."
Lisa Lang, spokeswoman for the 49ers, confirmed that the team would be pursuing dual discussions with the two cities.
"The doors definitely are not closed in San Francisco, and we are continuing to talk to the city to see what we can work out," she said.
City leaders in both San Francisco and Santa Clara had expressed shock at the team's plans to trade in Candlestick Point for the South Bay
But the potential move also worried San Francisco's representatives in Washington, as well as in Sacramento. Assemblyman Mark Leno on Friday announced a plan to introduce legislation that would ban any professional sports franchise that is not headquartered or does not play games in San Francisco from using the city's name, unless the Board of Supervisors and mayor specifically authorizes it.
"It's his proposition. It's his team. He gets to do with it as he chooses," Leno said of John York. "But he can't take our name."
The team informed San Francisco officials late Wednesday that they intended to drop plans for a stadium and retail housing complex at Candlestick Point and instead move the proposed development to a parking lot near Great America amusement park in Santa Clara. The 49ers have been trying to rebuild the stadium at Candlestick Point for nearly 10 years.
Infrastructure was the 49ers' largest concern, John York said during a news conference announcing the move. York cited the high cost of building a huge parking garage and of bringing public transit to Candlestick Point, saying it would have doubled the $600 million to $800 million stadium price tag. He also expressed concern that a parking garage would have killed the tradition of tailgating before football games.
As San Francisco officials shuddered at the thought of losing a coveted NFL franchise -- one founded in the city 60 years ago -- officials in Santa Clara welcomed the possibility of gaining one, and on Friday remained convinced that their city was the team's first choice for building a new stadium.
"They're moving ahead with Santa Clara, but I think they're going to listen to San Francisco," Santa Clara Vice Mayor Kevin Moore said after learning from a 49ers team official about the meeting in Feinstein's office. "I think we're in the top spot now."
Moore said he was even more confident Friday than he was earlier in the week about the team calling Santa Clara home.
He pointed to the $765 million in transportation and parking infrastructure costs projected for the proposed development at Candlestick Point and to the logistical hassles of building on a peninsula with an existing stadium in place.
"I've had great moments at Candlestick Park, but it doesn't make sense anymore," said Moore, an avid 49ers fan. "I know that Candlestick Point is not the best place for fan entertainment, and the numbers are crazy, just crazy."
Santa Clara Mayor Patricia Mahan was diplomatic about the possible move.
"Anything the two of our cities can do to keep the 49ers in the Bay Area is great," Mahan said. "That's the most important thing to me, to make sure the 49ers have an appropriate home in the greater San Francisco Bay Area, so that there will always be a San Francisco 49ers."
She maintained, though, that the Santa Clara site wouldn't have parking or traffic congestion problems and would be a better fit for fans than the Candlestick Point proposal.
"The 49ers are going to make their decision on what's best for the fans and what's best for the team," Mahan said Friday. "As long as they're staying in the Bay Area, that's what's most important to me."
John York told reporters a day earlier that, "it would be foolish to just slam the door," if San Francisco officials approached the team for further talks, but he said the focus was on Santa Clara.
With that in mind, Newsom said he was heading cautiously into the resumed talks with the team.
"We're not going to be in the middle of being played against each other," he told reporters Friday. "That will not happen."
The San Francisco project's potential demise also dealt a blow to the city's hope to land the 2016 Olympic Games. The United States Olympic Committee is scheduled to make a decision on whether it will recommend a U.S. city -- either San Francisco, Los Angeles or Chicago -- by the end of the year. Whether the city has a stadium that can accommodate the Games' Opening and Closing ceremonies is central to the committee's decision.
Scott Givens, managing director of San Francisco's 2016 bid group, hailed Feinstein's involvement in the negotiations as a positive step, but hinted that the damage to the city's Olympic bid may not be reversible.
"That dug a big hole for us to get out of. The Niners dealt a big blow by the manner they did this," Givens said.
Givens said San Francisco 2016 will decide by Monday whether to continue or pull the plug on the Olympic bid.
"We can't let this linger for too long," he said. "If we can come up with a viable option the USOC deems appropriate, we should proceed with great haste.''
Still, exactly what future discussions between San Francisco officials and the 49ers will entail and whether city leaders can succeed in keeping the team at the bargaining table remain to be seen.
"I'm as resolved as everyone else to try to keep the team here," Newsom said. "But not at all costs. We're not going to sell our soul. ... this city is not going to mortgage its future for billionaires. We don't do that."
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LOL!
Man, all those people you described don't even VOTE! Or they vote Green Party because "my vote don't matter"(What's Up, Crink!)....face it, the Republicans got spanked in the House because THEY CAN'T GOVERN and moderates from both parties saw through the rhetoric about Dems being pussies on National Security and the GOP BULLSHIT that they are the only ones who can handle foreign policy. GOP hasn't handled shit, and that's why they lost.
Scowl away, buddy, the Middle won today, not the fuckin' hippies!
I'm saying. Real leftists aren't necessarily any happier today than folks on the right are.
And in any case V, I'm not saying this to rub shit in but the Dems didn't really win so much as the GOP imploded: take your pick over what - corruption, Iraq, family value hypocrisy, the Bush presidency, writ large.
The hippies never win. But sometimes, bad leaders lose.
The guy standing in the way of success in Iraq was Rumsfeld. Not the only one but certainly a big roadblock to progress. Do you think that he would have left if the Republicans had won?
The Dems are going to HAVE to get Iraq right... they just inherited one of the biggest messes in generations.
Johnny,
I am writing about Gates, who is a disaster. I don't feel like engaging. But yes, Rumsfeld sucked. Let a man be bitter and cranky. Hippy.
Vitamin.
Sorry to pile on. I know you are only felling down.
Cheer up. Back when the Dems were in control all of Latin America and the Caribbean were Democratic. The Kurds were secure under US Air defense, Cuba was isolated, Israel was moving towards peace and Taiwan had strong support. All that has changed today. Democracy is fleeing the Caribbean, the Kurds are no better off, Cuba is much stronger and Israel has never been weaker. Now that the Republicans have sold the National Dept to China we can all kiss Taiwan good bye.
Lets face it you hate freedom. You hate democracy in:
Nicaragua
Venezuela
Iran
Palestine
Lebanon
and the USA
For real we should stop celebrating, and you should start feeling better, because, Bush is still large and in charge, and a little bit of oversight is a good thing.
The things we all want peace, freedom, democracy, health care, human rights, an end to poverty, are no closer today than yesterday.
but they won't. they will retreat just like the GOP would have after the midterms. isn't this obvious? no one can win there under the current geopolitical circumstances.
[lurkalert] Made my day. [/lurkalert]