Some of those tracks are just embarrassing. When are we going to get the happy hardcore massive going on about their favourite tracks? What about the epic trance DJs? Just because it gets made and people like it doesn't meant it's any good (cause it's usually not).
Didny I read in a recent magazine the Hank Shocklee's new material is D-N-B?
yeah, he's producing dnb stuff, for whom, i know not. we were DJing a party and he was playing all kinds of different stuff, some of his own work, some not. more on the "experimental" tip than the sound that he helped pioneer through PE.
though i can't really vouch for the genre nowadays, i still play some jungle/dnb shit out. folks don't seem to mind the samba stuff earlier in the evening.
One of the reasons that I posted up the link to that Drum&Bass forum was because I hoped people like you might wonder why another group of music enthusiasts have a sufficiently wide scope of listening interests to be able to name a top twenty from a different genre.
Knowing "C.R.E.A.M." and Mos Def constitutes a wide scope of listening interests?
I was never that heavily into dnb. But being from Bristol I do have a real fondness for the genre. Although I find it hard to believe that people are STILL willing to argue its importance or impotence. My flatmate, who was a dnb dj backintheday, really believes that brown paper bag killed the scene, and nothing's been the same since.
What I want to know is.. Is it true that some Americans, especially the mc's involved in the US scene, affect a London accent?? Could this really be true.
alaska-aries maze[paradox] dillinjah - angels fall splash -babylon dj trace-babylon remix #2 undercover agent-original bad boysound 4- hero- everything they touched till present goldie-inner city life[sentimental reasons] remarc-soundmurder ed rush/optical-cutslo remix soundmurderer-"BAD MAN" Squarepusher- Tundra and Beep Street and theme from the Ernest Borgnine Omni Trio- renegade snares Peshay-Piano Bukem-Music Datcyde-Sober DJ Rap- Spiiritual Aura [sentimental reasons] Bad Company- Dubplate Aphex-Didgeriedoo Luke Vibert as Plug-"plug Ep" LLoydie Crucial-Ribbon in the sky remix Dubplate
Fuck what people think,this is what i like
Drum and bass pushed s1000s and s2000s to the limit sequencing/engineering/plug in abuse/time stretching and synth/drum programing as well as mastering/dub plate cutting for maximum bass/hi fidelity to the next level
ever listen to some of dillijah's shit on a real big system?
Nothing is any good if other people with no taste and who are stoned out of their gourds like it
OK, so smugly posting a link to another board with a "look at how cool they are" angle is only going to get people's backs up - I humbly apologise, and would like to add that I was too 'asshurt' by the lack of love for d'n'b to sit down and type a prompter reply to the excellent video links that were posted. The Junglist one was a lesson in how to spend the video budget; getting stoned out of your gourd around the studio. The Adam F video was pants. The DJ Chronic one was fucking mental. It's a high-speed montage of stupid nineties popculture references and cartoons like Transformers, Thundercats and Vanilla Ice jigging around - great if you like that sort of thing.
Knowing C.R.E.A.M. & Mos Def alone doesn't constitute a wide scope of listening interests, no. Complaining about the scope of music discussed here isn't particularly positive. But, it seems that if it's an old record produced by musicians,anything gets a full and impartial appraisal here, which is great. But when it comes to modern produced music, I wish I saw more threads exploring new stuff from different genres (HAH, and there's now a House music thread. I should go back to sleep).
P.S. The links to Loefah's myspace were cool - I recommend the Scratch Perry Guiness commercials. That man is bonkers.
OK, so smugly posting a link to another board with a "look at how cool they are" angle is only going to get people's backs up - I humbly apologise, and would like to add that I was too 'asshurt' by the lack of love for d'n'b to sit down and type a prompter reply to the excellent video links that were posted.
I was just giving you a hard time. I can't go on baiting someone who's obviously a decent fellow.
Drum and bass pushed s1000s and s2000s to the limit sequencing/engineering/plug in abuse/time stretching and synth/drum programing as well as mastering/dub plate cutting for maximum bass/hi fidelity to the next level
ever listen to some of dillijah's shit on a real big system?
This is what so many people miss. It was what they were able to achive. D'n'b is still huge in the UK and it has a different vibe to the US. I've taken people that didn't like d'n'b to a club night in london and because of the crowd and good vibes they started listening to d'n'b. Look at NZ, it's HUGE there now.
I had a chance to hear/feel the Valve Soundsystem the first (and only) night at Fabric. It was about 1/4 of their speakers and bottles were crashing off the shelves behind the bar. Saw the Valve system again at Mass in Brixton, this time they were ready for the bottles and gave out free earplugs, it wasn't all of the speakers that time either. I have only heard the complete Valve sound system once and it was out of control at some festival. Dillinja and Lemon D both tweak their tunes to the system, I saw sober people throwing up becuase of the the body vibrations. I was loving it!!! There was a crowd of about 50 people forming a semi cirlce around each tower speaker enclosure, just staring at the speakers, every 5 minutes someone would try and walk twoards the speaker to touch the cabinet but they could never get more than 4 feet from the speaker.
Drum and bass pushed s1000s and s2000s to the limit sequencing/engineering/plug in abuse/time stretching and synth/drum programing as well as mastering/dub plate cutting for maximum bass/hi fidelity to the next level
ever listen to some of dillijah's shit on a real big system?
This is what so many people miss. It was what they were able to achive. D'n'b is still huge in the UK and it has a different vibe to the US. I've taken people that didn't like d'n'b to a club night in london and because of the crowd and good vibes they started listening to d'n'b. Look at NZ, it's HUGE there now.
I had a chance to hear/feel the Valve Soundsystem the first (and only) night at Fabric. It was about 1/4 of their speakers and bottles were crashing off the shelves behind the bar. Saw the Valve system again at Mass in Brixton, this time they were ready for the bottles and gave out free earplugs, it wasn't all of the speakers that time either. I have only heard the complete Valve sound system once and it was out of control at some festival. Dillinja and Lemon D both tweak their tunes to the system, I saw sober people throwing up becuase of the the body vibrations. I was loving it!!! There was a crowd of about 50 people forming a semi cirlce around each tower speaker enclosure, just staring at the speakers, every 5 minutes someone would try and walk twoards the speaker to touch the cabinet but they could never get more than 4 feet from the speaker.
drum&bass on a huge system is even better and dillinjah with his valve soundsystem was and still is a funny thing. But the major problem with dillinjah is that he did not produce one interesting tune since around 1998. Instead, he releases one boring rave tune after another. I??ve seen him play a couple of times and it usually became boring after five minutes.
One major mistake made by many drum&bass dj??s is that they think pumping up the volume improves the quality of the music. Drum&Bass needs a good system - especially for the bass - and only a couple of clubs have that, but tepid stuff sounds tepid everywhere.
drum&bass on a huge system is even better and dillinjah with his valve soundsystem was and still is a funny thing. But the major problem with dillinjah is that he did not produce one interesting tune since around 1998. Instead, he releases one boring rave tune after another. I??ve seen him play a couple of times and it usually became boring after five minutes.
One major mistake made by many drum&bass dj??s is that they think pumping up the volume improves the quality of the music. Drum&Bass needs a good system - especially for the bass - and only a couple of clubs have that, but tepid stuff sounds tepid everywhere.
agreed its like those guys sacrificed their studio chops for that sound system dillinjah did a few cool remixes here and there and his bass work is the essence of any track so its easy to pass off another repetitive dillijah.
but mixed into a set by a real d&b dj it takes on a new meaning when the bass drops
i saw them both dj in like 98 and they were THE WORST skilled djs i have ever seen.
bumping into each other ,full on needle drags,train wrecks on beat matching it was so bad that they were laughing at themselves the valve system is overkill ehh? i'd still like to ear it also would have liked to have heard Jah Shaka's sound when it was up and killing
drum&bass on a huge system is even better and dillinjah with his valve soundsystem was and still is a funny thing. But the major problem with dillinjah is that he did not produce one interesting tune since around 1998. Instead, he releases one boring rave tune after another.
also would have liked to have heard Jah Shaka's sound when it was up and killing
Yeah, Dillinja got shit as soon as he started using the Capone nom de plume - those productions weren't worthy of the name when compared to his vintage stuff.
Valve made people puke? Reminds me of a discussion here that cropped up about 'Brown Noise' - you can probably guess what the effects of this ultra-low frequency are supposed to be. The Valve Soundsystem anecdote reminds of the rock concert from Hithikers Guide to the Galaxy - the speakers are on one planet and the audience listens on the next door planet. Adams prefigured Spinal Tap turning it up to 11 by a few years there. I wholeheartedly concur with the 'needs to be heard in correct context' statements; biiiig soundsytem in a club full of people who love the music. One of the problems I have with 'getting' most of the dubstep tracks I hear via mp3 snippetts is identical. Will have to investigate a club in London, and do some passive smoking.
I heard Jah Shaka's Soundsystem at the Rocket in London. Fookin' awesome. One of the best bass experiences I've ever had, although I lost an eight in the club toilets when I was skinning up because the cubicles started shaking and I thought the bouncers were trying to kick the door in on me - it was a couple having sex in the cubicle next door.
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yeah, he's producing dnb stuff, for whom, i know not. we were DJing a party and he was playing all kinds of different stuff, some of his own work, some not. more on the "experimental" tip than the sound that he helped pioneer through PE.
http://www.shocklee.com/
(to be updated at some point?)
though i can't really vouch for the genre nowadays, i still play some jungle/dnb shit out. folks don't seem to mind the samba stuff earlier in the evening.
Knowing "C.R.E.A.M." and Mos Def constitutes a wide scope of listening interests?
What I want to know is.. Is it true that some Americans, especially the mc's involved in the US scene, affect a London accent?? Could this really be true.
dillinjah - angels fall
splash -babylon
dj trace-babylon remix #2
undercover agent-original bad boysound
4- hero- everything they touched till present
goldie-inner city life[sentimental reasons]
remarc-soundmurder
ed rush/optical-cutslo remix
soundmurderer-"BAD MAN"
Squarepusher- Tundra and Beep Street and theme from the Ernest Borgnine
Omni Trio- renegade snares
Peshay-Piano
Bukem-Music
Datcyde-Sober
DJ Rap- Spiiritual Aura [sentimental reasons]
Bad Company- Dubplate
Aphex-Didgeriedoo
Luke Vibert as Plug-"plug Ep"
LLoydie Crucial-Ribbon in the sky remix Dubplate
Fuck what people think,this is what i like
Drum and bass pushed s1000s and s2000s to the limit sequencing/engineering/plug in abuse/time stretching and synth/drum programing as well as mastering/dub plate cutting for maximum bass/hi fidelity to the next level
ever listen to some of dillijah's shit on a real big system?
OK, so smugly posting a link to another board with a "look at how cool they are" angle is only going to get people's backs up - I humbly apologise, and would like to add that I was too 'asshurt' by the lack of love for d'n'b to sit down and type a prompter reply to the excellent video links that were posted. The Junglist one was a lesson in how to spend the video budget; getting stoned out of your gourd around the studio. The Adam F video was pants. The DJ Chronic one was fucking mental. It's a high-speed montage of stupid nineties popculture references and cartoons like Transformers, Thundercats and Vanilla Ice jigging around - great if you like that sort of thing.
Knowing C.R.E.A.M. & Mos Def alone doesn't constitute a wide scope of listening interests, no.
Complaining about the scope of music discussed here isn't particularly positive. But, it seems that if it's an old record produced by musicians, anything gets a full and impartial appraisal here, which is great. But when it comes to modern produced music, I wish I saw more threads exploring new stuff from different genres (HAH, and there's now a House music thread. I should go back to sleep).
P.S. The links to Loefah's myspace were cool - I recommend the Scratch Perry Guiness commercials. That man is bonkers.
I was just giving you a hard time. I can't go on baiting someone who's obviously a decent fellow.
This is what so many people miss. It was what they were able to achive.
D'n'b is still huge in the UK and it has a different vibe to the US. I've taken people that didn't like d'n'b to a club night in london and because of the crowd and good vibes they started listening to d'n'b. Look at NZ, it's HUGE there now.
I had a chance to hear/feel the Valve Soundsystem the first (and only) night at Fabric. It was about 1/4 of their speakers and bottles were crashing off the shelves behind the bar. Saw the Valve system again at Mass in Brixton, this time they were ready for the bottles and gave out free earplugs, it wasn't all of the speakers that time either. I have only heard the complete Valve sound system once and it was out of control at some festival. Dillinja and Lemon D both tweak their tunes to the system, I saw sober people throwing up becuase of the the body vibrations. I was loving it!!! There was a crowd of about 50 people forming a semi cirlce around each tower speaker enclosure, just staring at the speakers, every 5 minutes someone would try and walk twoards the speaker to touch the cabinet but they could never get more than 4 feet from the speaker.
truth
One major mistake made by many drum&bass dj??s is that they think pumping up the volume improves the quality of the music. Drum&Bass needs a good system - especially for the bass - and only a couple of clubs have that, but tepid stuff sounds tepid everywhere.
agreed
its like those guys sacrificed their studio chops for that sound system
dillinjah did a few cool remixes here and there and his bass work is the essence of any track so its easy to pass off another repetitive dillijah.
but mixed into a set by a real d&b dj it takes on a new meaning when the bass drops
i saw them both dj in like 98 and they were THE WORST skilled djs i have ever seen.
bumping into each other ,full on needle drags,train wrecks on beat matching
it was so bad that they were laughing at themselves
the valve system is overkill ehh?
i'd still like to ear it
also would have liked to have heard Jah Shaka's sound when it was up and killing
Yeah, Dillinja got shit as soon as he started using the Capone nom de plume - those productions weren't worthy of the name when compared to his vintage stuff.
Valve made people puke? Reminds me of a discussion here that cropped up about 'Brown Noise' - you can probably guess what the effects of this ultra-low frequency are supposed to be.
The Valve Soundsystem anecdote reminds of the rock concert from Hithikers Guide to the Galaxy - the speakers are on one planet and the audience listens on the next door planet. Adams prefigured Spinal Tap turning it up to 11 by a few years there.
I wholeheartedly concur with the 'needs to be heard in correct context' statements; biiiig soundsytem in a club full of people who love the music. One of the problems I have with 'getting' most of the dubstep tracks I hear via mp3 snippetts is identical. Will have to investigate a club in London, and do some passive smoking.
I heard Jah Shaka's Soundsystem at the Rocket in London. Fookin' awesome. One of the best bass experiences I've ever had, although I lost an eight in the club toilets when I was skinning up because the cubicles started shaking and I thought the bouncers were trying to kick the door in on me - it was a couple having sex in the cubicle next door.
LOL
This is a great thread on many levels. I'll poast up a random 20 when I'm done working for the night.
Okay, here's 20. I left out all the braindance (sorry for using that term!) since that's really part of a whole other list.
Ganja Kru - Super Sharp Shooter