Universal To Offer Free Downloads - DISCUSS

Jonny_PaycheckJonny_Paycheck 17,825 Posts
edited August 2006 in Strut Central
Universal backs free music offerVivendi Universal, the world's biggest music group, has signed a deal to make its music catalogue available on a free legal downloads service.Under the agreement, Spiralfrog will offer Universal's songs online in the US and Canada.New York-based Spiralfrog will launch its service in December and make its money by carrying adverts on the site.Spiralfrog aims to take on market leader Apple's iTunes service, which charges 99 cents per song in the US."Offering young consumers an easy-to-use alternative to pirated music sites will be compelling," Spiralfrog Chief Executive Robin Kent said.Mr Kent, the former head of the Universal McCann advertising agency, added that his research suggested that in return for free music, young people would be willing to endure adverts - as long as the brands and products were relevant to them.'Shrewd move'US-based music industry legal specialist Josh Lawler said news of the new service was "inevitable"."It's a very shrewd move by Universal," he told BBC News."The music industry is going to a point where all delivery will probably be some form of downloading or streaming."Figures from the International Federation of Phonographic Industries (IFPI) estimate that for each legal download, 40 are done illegally.Mr Lawler added that the success of Myspace had underlined the power of the internet to make or break artists - as well as proving that advertising-based formats can work.Funding questionBut while Spiralfrog is discussing possible deals with other big record firms, questions still remain over how the artists featured on Spiralfrog will be paid."The internet is very much a viable media, but the trick is going to be getting it off the ground in the first place," Mr Lawler added."Spiralfrog will have to find a way to pay artists from the advertising dollars they are generating."But they're not necessarily going to know how many advertising dollars there are and so some artists are going to be hesitant about it," he said.Rapid growthThe music downloads industry is a burgeoning market. According to the IFPI, 60 million MP3 players were sold in 2005, while 420 million single tracks were downloaded during the year - up 20 times on two years earlier.Many of the models sold are also expected to be incompatible with Apple's online record store - such as Sony's Walkman.At the same time, numerous companies are jumping on the downloads bandwagon.Entertainment retailers HMV and Virgin already offer music downloads, while music television channel MTV has opened its own online shop, Urge.Microsoft is preparing to launch a music store to go with its Zune player, made by Toshiba, which is popularly viewed in the industry as an "iPod killer".
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  • MP3 saknar feeling --

    naw johhnie give me that blue grass!

  • i doubt those evil fucks will give us high quality mp3s, it will be some tethered download bullshit


  • naw johhnie give me that blue grass!


  • BsidesBsides 4,244 Posts
    Finally. Shit is the future, take note, the old models for making money off media are outdated.

    Its amazing to actually see a record company take a Progressive stance towards an issue for once. Gives me a bit of hope for the music industry.


    Check out http://creativecommons.org too.

  • strikerstriker 146 Posts
    How are they going to enforce advertising on a track by track basis?

    add 10 second ads to the tracks... "Mulatu Of Ethiopia was brought to you by The new Flame Grilled Whopper"

    and as for the name SPIRALFROG ? what kind of wholefood hackysack bulshit is that?

  • Finally. Shit is the future, take note, the old models for making money off media are outdated.

    Its amazing to actually see a record company take a Progressive stance towards an issue for once. Gives me a bit of hope for the music industry.


    Check out http://creativecommons.org too.


    wow. man this is straight crazy. How are people going to get paid off of music now? Will it result in certain retail stores just going belly-up?

    peace
    patrick

  • DJ_EnkiDJ_Enki 6,475 Posts
    Finally. Shit is the future, take note, the old models for making money off media are outdated.

    Its amazing to actually see a record company take a Progressive stance towards an issue for once. Gives me a bit of hope for the music industry.


    Check out http://creativecommons.org too.


    wow. man this is straight crazy. How are people going to get paid off of music now? Will it result in certain retail stores just going belly-up?

    peace
    patrick

    Word. I mean, we can talk about old models of making money off media being outdated all day, but how does giving it away and making no money make for a better alternative?

  • johmbolayajohmbolaya 4,472 Posts
    Universal buys almost all of the record labels out there, then they give it away for free. Music as the lure so they can get people to look at ad space.

  • BsidesBsides 4,244 Posts
    Finally. Shit is the future, take note, the old models for making money off media are outdated.

    Its amazing to actually see a record company take a Progressive stance towards an issue for once. Gives me a bit of hope for the music industry.


    Check out http://creativecommons.org too.


    wow. man this is straight crazy. How are people going to get paid off of music now? Will it result in certain retail stores just going belly-up?

    peace
    patrick


    i dont know about retail stores, but the idea is that the click through ad revenue is split between the content host, and the content provider, it may work differently if its coming from a first party site like universal, but its hard to say.

    people make money when songs play on the radio too, Universal wouldnt be into it if it werent making them money, its a new world out there though. Time to adjust.

  • DORDOR Two Ron Toe 9,905 Posts
    Something needs to be done. The old business model will just not survive. Any company not looking to the future will not be around. You will always be needing to move with the market. Not against it.

    I'm sure everything thats been going on with the RIAA has made labels think about things.
    Suing everyone and there mother is just not the answer. Shit, they were serious gonna start suing dead people. it was just a matter of time before the RIAA lost a groundbreaking legal decision and shit would go down the drain. They were already starting to drop cases against people.

  • Finally. Shit is the future, take note, the old models for making money off media are outdated.

    Its amazing to actually see a record company take a Progressive stance towards an issue for once. Gives me a bit of hope for the music industry.


    Check out http://creativecommons.org too.


    wow. man this is straight crazy. How are people going to get paid off of music now? Will it result in certain retail stores just going belly-up?

    peace
    patrick


    i dont know about retail stores, but the idea is that the click through ad revenue is split between the content host, and the content provider, it may work differently if its coming from a first party site like universal, but its hard to say.

    people make money when songs play on the radio too, Universal wouldnt be into it if it werent making them money, its a new world out there though. Time to adjust.


    Well I'm not talking about the 9 artistes that get their track on the radio. I'm talking about the Amoeba's or small mon-and-pop stores of the wrld. Distributors as well. I'll answer it myself "THEY'RE FUCKED!"

    I don't think this really affects smaller/indie labels.

  • BsidesBsides 4,244 Posts
    Finally. Shit is the future, take note, the old models for making money off media are outdated.

    Its amazing to actually see a record company take a Progressive stance towards an issue for once. Gives me a bit of hope for the music industry.


    Check out http://creativecommons.org too.


    wow. man this is straight crazy. How are people going to get paid off of music now? Will it result in certain retail stores just going belly-up?

    peace
    patrick


    i dont know about retail stores, but the idea is that the click through ad revenue is split between the content host, and the content provider, it may work differently if its coming from a first party site like universal, but its hard to say.

    people make money when songs play on the radio too, Universal wouldnt be into it if it werent making them money, its a new world out there though. Time to adjust.


    Well I'm not talking about the 9 artistes that get their track on the radio. I'm talking about the Amoeba's or small mon-and-pop stores of the wrld. Distributors as well. I'll answer it myself "THEY'RE FUCKED!"

    I don't think this really affects smaller/indie labels.

    ummm.. newsflash, mom and pop record stores have BEEN fucked for a few years now. Ameoba is like the only one holding out.

  • BsidesBsides 4,244 Posts
    Anyway its about to be the end of the world in a couple years anyway, so fuck it.

  • The_Hook_UpThe_Hook_Up 8,182 Posts
    if you are a mom and pop, you have to have a niche these days to survive. You cant be a "meat and potatoes" record/CD shop. Those dont fly anymore. You have to specialize. You have to have racks and racks of raers (real raers) or offer something else the other guys dont. I dont think our shop would make it if we werent in Memphis. We are fortunate we are in a city with millions of dollars of music tourism passing through town all the time. Folks go to the Stax museum, they come here for that Otis Redding 45, they go to Sun studio, they come here for that Jerry Lee Lewis 45. Also, we have a assload of local bands that constantly release 7"s, LPs and CDs...our bread and butter is the racks and racks of current local new releases(all indie) and racks and racks of Memphis records and raers. We dont even bother with most major label releases. All of our hip hop comes in through the door from record pool guys. We only deal with distributors for the bigger indie stuff (Matador stuff, etc.) and if we didnt have that stuff to sell it would hurt us, but it wouldnt kill us. Yes, the era of the mom and pop record shop is, sadly, over, you gotta specialize.

  • 33thirdcom33thirdcom 2,049 Posts
    Really all it is, is the major labels are absolutely fucked. They know now that their days of reaping huge profits off of music are done. This is the way of the future, but the profit margin for the labels will be a fraction of what it is and was at its peak. They are clinging to a sinking ship and if this works to keep them (albeit less) profitable, then expect this to extend to other media types in the future.

  • The_Hook_UpThe_Hook_Up 8,182 Posts
    Really all it is, is the major labels are absolutely fucked. They know now that their days of reaping huge profits off of music are done. This is the way of the future, but the profit margin for the labels will be a fraction of what it is and was at its peak. They are clinging to a sinking ship and if this works to keep them (albeit less) profitable, then expect this to extend to other media types in the future.

    yes, they shot themselves in the foot at the dawn of the CD age. Pennies to produce, but for some reason they thought they could break it off in the consumer and swindle folks and charge more for this cheaper but "newer" format. They were extremely short sighted and just saw $$$. Now that their precious ones and zeros are taking money from them instead of making it, they are fucked. Maybe some lawyers and other useless to the music industry types will lose their jobs and labels will get back to having music lovers and other useful people on their payroll instead of scumbags. I know that thought is a pipedream, but we can all hope.

  • 33thirdcom33thirdcom 2,049 Posts
    Its not that far from the truth though... Alot of the people in the industry are only attracted to it because of the lure of money. Take that away and it will hopefully be back to being treated at least more like an art form.

    Although if this new ad supported method works, depending on their system it could make it even harder for artists to break through... ie... if the masses only gravitate towards certain tracks and thus only certain ads are clicked/watched/delivered, I can see that other less popular content being dropped from a service like this... It all depends on their system though.

  • Deep_SangDeep_Sang 1,081 Posts
    I read an article about this in the post today...

    "The tracks cannot be burned to a CD, but users will be able to transfer music to portable media players equipped with Microsoft Windows digital rights management software."

    "The service will not work with Apple Computer Inc.'s Macintosh computers ot its market-leading iPod music players."

    "SpiralFrog will require users to return to the site to renew registration at least once a month or the tracks will cease to play."


    ummm... no thanks.

    And I think it's a safe bet that these will be low quality mp3s too.

  • montymonty 420 Posts
    I read an article about this in the post today...

    "The tracks cannot be burned to a CD, but users will be able to transfer music to portable media players equipped with Microsoft Windows digital rights management software."

    "The service will not work with Apple Computer Inc.'s Macintosh computers ot its market-leading iPod music players."

    "SpiralFrog will require users to return to the site to renew registration at least once a month or the tracks will cease to play."


    ummm... no thanks.

    And I think it's a safe bet that these will be low quality mp3s too.

  • DORDOR Two Ron Toe 9,905 Posts
    I'd be more interested in something that worked more like this.

    http://www.applematters.com/index.php/section/comments/itunes-inspires-changes-in-music-industry/
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