world trade center

edith headedith head 5,106 Posts
edited August 2006 in Strut Central
i dont want to see the wtc movie but has anyone here seen it? i'm curious if it's tasteful, especially because oliver stone made it. the trailer seems really hollywood

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  • Oliver Stone + Nicolas Cage + cashing in on an American tragedy = you couldn't get me to watch this even if you were to strap me down to that clockwork orange chair.

  • edith headedith head 5,106 Posts
    Oliver Stone + Nicolas Cage + cashing in on an American tragedy = you couldn't get me to watch this even if you were to strap me down to that clockwork orange chair.

    that's what i'm thinking. why all the big names? i don't have any desire to see any 9/11 movie. i'm just curious though cause i can only see oliver stone cheapening it beyond imagination. every movie i've seen from him has been ridiculous, manipulative and heavy heavy handed

  • LordNOLordNO 202 Posts
    My friend got sued for making a bootleg version as an art project. peep.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/20/AR2006062001638.html?sub=new

    I think they settled out of court and now he shows outtakes from his film that 'do not conatin elements of the script'.

  • DORDOR Two Ron Toe 9,903 Posts
    I was surprised to see NOW Toronto give this 3 N's.

    I'll probably watch it. Tho, probably not at the theater, before I make an opinion on it.

  • HAZBEENHAZBEEN 564 Posts
    "Two men saw something else"


    What did they see?

  • "Two men saw something else"


    What did they see?

    they probably saw the 12 minute internet version instead...

  • loose change (2nd edition) is a really interesting film on the subject


  • i dont want to see the wtc movie but has anyone here seen it? i'm curious if it's tasteful, especially because oliver stone made it. the trailer seems really hollywood






    yeah, but at the same time after watching several DVD bonus interview with him, it doesn't seem too far off base for him. He's described himself as a 'patriot' in the past, and that being his impetus for many of the subject matter(s) of his film. From what I've read on this one, that's what he's telling on this one. A patriotic story. He's never hidden his pride(?) in serving in the army, and having fought for his country, so it seems a fit to tell the story of some ordinary uniformed guys doing some extraordinary things.

    too soon? I dunno, folks have been making art about 9/11 since 9/12. I think it's gonna be pretty dope. And all pre-reviews I've read have said this is the most understated of Stone's movies.


  • Hotsauce84Hotsauce84 8,450 Posts
    I liked it.

    Herm

  • AserAser 2,351 Posts
    loose change (2nd edition) is a really interesting film on the subject


    take that w/ a grain of salt, there are a lot of factual errors, quote mining and conjecture. Watch and judge for yourself....

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loose_Change_%28video%29

  • DrWuDrWu 4,021 Posts
    My favorite Stone movie is Natural Born Killers. I especially like the Manson parody interview with Downey Jr. Prescient and intellectually challenging take on modern ethics as first discussed by Nietzsche.

  • Didn't see it, but enjoyed this review from the Portland Mercury:

    It might shock you to hear this, but I wasn't personally invited to the pre-production meeting between director Oliver Stone and World Trade Center screenwriter Andrea Berloff. But having suffered through this hilariously bad movie???not once, but twice???I think I have a pretty good idea how the meeting went down.???CB

    Oliver Stone: Okay, Andrea. You ready to kick some ideas around for World Trade Center?

    Andrea Berloff: I sure am! It's such complex material???the biggest story of our lifetime. So many cover-ups, so many ideologies. I can't wait to get started!

    OS: Whoa, whoa, whoa???hang on there, missy. You must have me confused with the old Oliver Stone???the one who used to like to push buttons and explore ideas. That's not me any more! No, what I'm thinking of for this one is a happy 9/11 movie. No one wants to be depressed at the movies anymore.

    AB: Ohhhh-kay. I think I see where you're going with this. How about this: We start the movie with the Twin Towers falling... but we end with a picnic?

    OS: Now you're talking! Everyone loves a picnic! WTC's going to be about these two cops trapped in the rubble. One of them???Nicolas Cage???is going to be a salty veteran and the other's going to be???

    AB: An ethnic rookie! With a pregnant wife at home!

    OS: Bingo! I can't believe you were available for this job on such short notice. So what would two cops trapped in the rubble of the Twin Towers talk about?

    AB: They'd probably be like, "Hey Sarge???you have any kids?" or like, "Don't you die on me."

    OS: Perfect! See, this movie's writing itself! But they should be more like, "Wheeze! Cough! Tell my wife I love her! Cough! Wheeze!"

    AB: Oliver, you're so brilliant. So how else are we going to prevent the audience from getting sad or reflective?

    OS: The wives are going to be key. We'll keep flashing back to their wives at home. And even though their husbands are missing and presumed dead, get this: They'll hardly shed a tear! They'll just be, like, uh, worried. Or distracted.

    AB: Whoa! This just came to me! What if one of them is doing the laundry while she's watching CNN, and when she folds Nicolas Cage's jeans, she pauses to smell them???then looks off into the distance and shakes her head longingly.

    OS: This is great! I just met you four minutes ago, and the movie's practically written. But I've got a curveball for you: I want to put Jesus in the movie.

    AB: Like a big glowing orb or something?

    OS: Andrea, Andrea???you're thinking too hard. I mean an actual Jesus look-alike, with the beard and the flowing robes and everything. But get this???he's going to be holding out bottled water for the trapped rookie. What do you think?

    AB: Oliver, that's so powerful. You're a genius. But it seems like this movie has nothing to do with 9/11. It's really just a search-and-rescue movie.

    OS: Hey, United 93 was a '9/11 movie,' and 14 people saw it. Two guys trapped under concrete and metal is so much more... universal. Don't you think?

    AB: I can see it now. Nicolas Cage is... Baby Jessica!

    OS: Boom. There's our movie. High five!

  • cHillercHiller 293 Posts
    Didn't see it, but enjoyed this review from the Portland Mercury:

    It might shock you to hear this, but I wasn't personally invited to the pre-production meeting between director Oliver Stone and World Trade Center screenwriter Andrea Berloff. But having suffered through this hilariously bad movie???not once, but twice???I think I have a pretty good idea how the meeting went down.???CB

    Oliver Stone: Okay, Andrea. You ready to kick some ideas around for World Trade Center?

    Andrea Berloff: I sure am! It's such complex material???the biggest story of our lifetime. So many cover-ups, so many ideologies. I can't wait to get started!

    OS: Whoa, whoa, whoa???hang on there, missy. You must have me confused with the old Oliver Stone???the one who used to like to push buttons and explore ideas. That's not me any more! No, what I'm thinking of for this one is a happy 9/11 movie. No one wants to be depressed at the movies anymore.

    AB: Ohhhh-kay. I think I see where you're going with this. How about this: We start the movie with the Twin Towers falling... but we end with a picnic?

    OS: Now you're talking! Everyone loves a picnic! WTC's going to be about these two cops trapped in the rubble. One of them???Nicolas Cage???is going to be a salty veteran and the other's going to be???

    AB: An ethnic rookie! With a pregnant wife at home!

    OS: Bingo! I can't believe you were available for this job on such short notice. So what would two cops trapped in the rubble of the Twin Towers talk about?

    AB: They'd probably be like, "Hey Sarge???you have any kids?" or like, "Don't you die on me."

    OS: Perfect! See, this movie's writing itself! But they should be more like, "Wheeze! Cough! Tell my wife I love her! Cough! Wheeze!"

    AB: Oliver, you're so brilliant. So how else are we going to prevent the audience from getting sad or reflective?

    OS: The wives are going to be key. We'll keep flashing back to their wives at home. And even though their husbands are missing and presumed dead, get this: They'll hardly shed a tear! They'll just be, like, uh, worried. Or distracted.

    AB: Whoa! This just came to me! What if one of them is doing the laundry while she's watching CNN, and when she folds Nicolas Cage's jeans, she pauses to smell them???then looks off into the distance and shakes her head longingly.

    OS: This is great! I just met you four minutes ago, and the movie's practically written. But I've got a curveball for you: I want to put Jesus in the movie.

    AB: Like a big glowing orb or something?

    OS: Andrea, Andrea???you're thinking too hard. I mean an actual Jesus look-alike, with the beard and the flowing robes and everything. But get this???he's going to be holding out bottled water for the trapped rookie. What do you think?

    AB: Oliver, that's so powerful. You're a genius. But it seems like this movie has nothing to do with 9/11. It's really just a search-and-rescue movie.

    OS: Hey, United 93 was a '9/11 movie,' and 14 people saw it. Two guys trapped under concrete and metal is so much more... universal. Don't you think?

    AB: I can see it now. Nicolas Cage is... Baby Jessica!

    OS: Boom. There's our movie. High five!

    haha, genius

  • djkingottodjkingotto 1,704 Posts
    i dont want to see the wtc movie but has anyone here seen it? i'm curious if it's tasteful, especially because oliver stone made it. the trailer seems really hollywood

    the fact that they made of movie about this so soon is already in bad taste. and yet, i knew that day that some jackass would make a movie about it.
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