And I have yet to encounter anyone using Gemm as a price guide, but I think I would probably snap, like seriously lose it, just because Gemm pricing is such an absolute joke. If stores want to use eBay, that wouldn't even bother me, I consider most eBay prices to be a fair idea of "value," and there are plenty of records that generally get priced higher in stores than they sell for on eBay, so things could even out. Gemm, though? That's just crazy.
Alrighty, since I've spent the last 3 days pricing records. I would like to understand what you all consider good pricing. The record store is fairly new, and the pricing process started like this.
(looks at record, how much would I pay for this record?)
Then, I told them, they might want to use ebay auctions and popsike. So, the order I priced was like this Popsike, Ebay completed auctions, Records by Mail, then Gemm. It's obvious the hustle people try to pull on gemm, then there's some decent prices here and there. I would get rid of the monkey price, take the highest normal price that matches the lp, and then take away dollars due to record condition?
This wasn't for every LP, just a few select LP's we weren't sure of the value.
Record Man in the Bay Area is the worst. He looks everything up in a book and generally goes off of mint ratings. He's nuts. He told us that it was "a privilege to be able to look through his collection." It's a store, not his living room. One time I saw him ring up a guy who had some 45s that were already priced. He says "this one is priced wrong" and tells him it's $40 instead of the $5 it's priced at. The guy says "ok, but it says $5. I don't want it then." Record man says "good, I don't want to sell it to you anyway."
On the other side of the coin, I've been to stores where the owners look at the records before they sell them and say things like "sheesh, that's too much, how about $2" when it's marked higher than that. I even got a free copy of Dorothy Ashby's "Afro Harping" because the guy looked at it and thought it was too beat. it plays fine to me. I gladly go back to the places where the owners are cool and realistic about what they are selling. If they think everything they own is a piece of gold then it's such a turn off that I almost don't even care what kind of records they have.
I went to record man for the first time recently and had no problems.
1. don't wear hip-hop clothes
2. don't pull out obvious jazz, soul, or otherwise funky titles
3. act like you didn't find that much
4. don't argue, if the price ain't right brush it off nonchalantly
5. doing the above four things I was able to pull several great records for (relatively) bargain prices.
Word to all the above. The last time I went I just asked to see the folk records. Didn't even set foot in the soul or jazz rooms. He wanted $14 to $15 for every single record I brought to the counter. I passed on the VG Emerald Web and copped NM copies of the two Fraser & Debolt LPs. Still, the guy is a dick and I don't think hip-hop diggers are to blame, he's just a genuine asshole.
In the past I bought a few nice items at the Record Man(say 10 years ago). But in general I would say he doesn't seem to know much about music and prices arbitrarily. I once brought up a nice pile of wax, he priced it all about triple a reasonable price (nothing too scarce in the pile). He wouldn't budge or haggle and I walked out empty handed. I don't miss this shop at all now that I'm 600 miles away.
Me and a friend went diggin to this bookstore located @ the hipster part of town, here in Oslo. There was no customers in the shop because it was kind of late. When we opened the door to the shop, the shop assistant, who was sitting behind a huge pay desk and computer, leaped into the air looking all shattering and nervous like he was hiding something. Me and my friend looked at each other and just shaked our heads while thinking "FRAEK". But really nothing more than that..
But after looking through some crates, I noticed what he had up on his computer screen:
PORN!
He was still watching porn on the internet while we looked through the crates! I wonder what he did before we entered the shop?
I went to the same shop some months later, and when we asked the dude if we could listen to some records on my portable, he first yelled "NOOOOO!" and then said it was ok only if we listened to the records on top of his desk so he could see what we were doing.. He first started to yell and told us that we damaged the vinyl because we were touching/holding it the wrong way. When I put the needle on the record, he told me that I made scratches and check marks to the record because I was young and didn't have any knowledge about vinyl!! He told us that you need to be "the game" for many years, like himself (ca. 50 yrs +), to know how to handle vinyls and LPs. He told us he was a vinyl expert but he really didn't know shit.
Me and a friend went diggin to this bookstore located @ the hipster part of town, here in Oslo. There was no customers in the shop because it was kind of late. When we opened the door to the shop, the shop assistant, who was sitting behind a huge pay desk and computer, leaped into the air looking all shattering and nervous like he was hiding something. Me and my friend looked at each other and just shaked our heads while thinking "FRAEK". But really nothing more than that..
But after looking through some crates, I noticed what he had up on his computer screen:
PORN!
He was still watching porn on the internet while we looked through the crates! I wonder what he did before we entered the shop?
I went to the same shop some months later, and when we asked the dude if we could listen to some records on my portable, he first yelled "NOOOOO!" and then said it was ok only if we listened to the records on top of his desk so he could see what we were doing.. He first started to yell and told us that we damaged the vinyl because we were touching/holding it the wrong way. When I put the needle on the record, he told me that I made scratches and check marks to the record because I was young and didn't have any knowledge about vinyl!! He told us that you need to be "the game" for many years, like himself (ca. 50 yrs +), to know how to handle vinyls and LPs. He told us he was a vinyl expert but he really didn't know shit.
Sp*k & Sp*nn*ng?
150 spenn for helt ren Bobby Bryant??s "Jazz Excursion into Hair" er jo ikke s?? ille...
I was in Everett once 10 years ago at a shop and I brought up a few 12"s to the counter. (about 4 or 5 90s hip hop joints that are normally in the $5-7 range but didn't have a price on them) Dude looked at the records and said $20 each. I balked and said, "really?" He then pulled out a No Limit promo from Fiend and said he was holding it for someone for $50. I then started laughing and said you're going to be holding on to that record for a long time because he's not coming back especially when he can find that record in the free bin at most record shops. My wife then happened to call me on my phone and I bounced.
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Alrighty, since I've spent the last 3 days pricing records. I would like to understand what you all consider good pricing. The record store is fairly new, and the pricing process started like this.
(looks at record, how much would I pay for this record?)
Then, I told them, they might want to use ebay auctions and popsike. So, the order I priced was like this Popsike, Ebay completed auctions, Records by Mail, then Gemm. It's obvious the hustle people try to pull on gemm, then there's some decent prices here and there. I would get rid of the monkey price, take the highest normal price that matches the lp, and then take away dollars due to record condition?
This wasn't for every LP, just a few select LP's we weren't sure of the value.
Good, bad, ugly?
- spidey
Vegas.
- spidey
Right up the street from my house on El Camino Real in Redwood City,Califas.
15 years strong buying records from him and his old lady.There's random times every year where he puts out boxes full of wax for a $1 each.Good sh*t.
He will get rar with his pricing sometimes.
Word to all the above. The last time I went I just asked to see the folk records. Didn't even set foot in the soul or jazz rooms. He wanted $14 to $15 for every single record I brought to the counter. I passed on the VG Emerald Web and copped NM copies of the two Fraser & Debolt LPs. Still, the guy is a dick and I don't think hip-hop diggers are to blame, he's just a genuine asshole.
- spidey
But after looking through some crates, I noticed what he had up on his computer screen:
PORN!
He was still watching porn on the internet while we looked through the crates! I wonder what he did before we entered the shop?
I went to the same shop some months later, and when we asked the dude if we could listen to some records on my portable, he first yelled "NOOOOO!" and then said it was ok only if we listened to the records on top of his desk so he could see what we were doing.. He first started to yell and told us that we damaged the vinyl because we were touching/holding it the wrong way. When I put the needle on the record, he told me that I made scratches and check marks to the record because I was young and didn't have any knowledge about vinyl!! He told us that you need to be "the game" for many years, like himself (ca. 50 yrs +), to know how to handle vinyls and LPs. He told us he was a vinyl expert but he really didn't know shit.
Sp*k & Sp*nn*ng?
150 spenn for helt ren Bobby Bryant??s "Jazz Excursion into Hair" er jo ikke s?? ille...
- J
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