Bush Dips To New Lows In Polls

mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
edited May 2006 in Strut Central
Spin this, batches... (note though: people still don't like Democrats much better in key areas. Read the bottom)http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/10/washin...agewanted=printPoll Gives Bush His Worst Marks YetBy ADAM NAGOURNEY and MEGAN THEEAmericans have a bleaker view of the country's direction than at any time in more than two decades, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll. Sharp disapproval of President Bush's handling of gasoline prices has combined with intensified unhappiness about Iraq to create a grim political environment for the White House and Congressional Republicans.Mr. Bush's approval ratings for his management of foreign policy, Iraq and the economy have fallen to the lowest levels of his presidency. He drew poor marks on the issues that have been at the top of the national agenda in recent months, in particular immigration and gasoline prices.Just 13 percent approved of Mr. Bush's handling of rising gasoline prices. About a quarter said they approved of his handling of immigration, as Congressional Republicans try to come up with a compromise for handling the influx of illegal immigrants into the country.The poll showed a further decline in support for the Iraq war, the issue that has most eaten into Mr. Bush's public support. The percentage of respondents who said going to war in Iraq was the correct decision slipped to a new low of 39 percent, down from 47 percent in January. Two-thirds said they had little or no confidence that Mr. Bush could successfully end the war.The poll comes six months before Election Day and well before Labor Day, when Congressional campaigns will be fully engaged. Mr. Bush has shaken up his staff in an effort to improve his political fortunes, and White House aides said they were confident that events in Iraq were improving and that the political effects of high gasoline prices could fade by the election.Nevertheless, the Times/CBS News poll contained few if any bright notes for Mr. Bush or Congress.Mr. Bush's political strength continues to dissipate. About two-thirds of poll respondents said he did not share their priorities, up from just over half right before his re-election in 2004. About two-thirds said the country was in worse shape than it was when he became president six years ago. Forty-two percent of respondents said they considered Mr. Bush a strong leader, a drop of 11 points since January.Mr. Bush's overall job approval rating hit another new low, 31 percent, tying the low point of his father in July 1992, four months before the elder Mr. Bush lost his bid for a second term to Bill Clinton. That is the third lowest approval rating of any president in 50 years; only Richard M. Nixon and Jimmy Carter were viewed less favorably.Mr. Bush is even losing support from what has been his base: 51 percent of conservatives and 69 percent of Republicans approve of the way Mr. Bush is handling his job. In both cases, those figures are a substantial drop in support from four months ago."We should have stayed out of Iraq until we knew more about it," Bernice Davis, a Republican from Lamar, Mo., who said she now disapproved of Mr. Bush's performance, said in a follow-up interview on Tuesday. "The economy is going to pot. Gas prices are escalating. I just voted for Bush because he's a Republican, even though I disapproved of the war. If I could go back, I would not vote for him."Although the composition of Congressional districts will make it hard for the Democrats to recapture control of Congress in the fall, the poll suggested that the trend was moving in their direction. Just 23 percent said they approved of the job Congress was doing, down from 29 percent in January. That is about the same level of support for Congress as in the fall of 1994, when Republicans seized control of the House.Americans said Democrats would do a better job dealing with Iraq, gasoline prices, immigration, taxes, prescription drug prices and civil liberties.Fifty percent said Democrats came closer than Republicans to sharing their moral values, compared with 37 percent who said Republicans shared their values. A majority said Republican members of Congress were more likely to be financially corrupt than Democratic members of Congress, suggesting that Democrats may be making headway in their efforts to portray Republicans as having created a "culture of corruption" in Washington.By better than two to one, Democrats were seen as having more new ideas than Republicans. And half of respondents, the highest number yet, said it was better when different parties controlled the two branches of Congress, reflecting one of the major arguments being laid out by Congressional Democrats in their bid to win back the House or the Senate.Americans said that Republicans would be better at maintaining a stronger military than Democrats. But the Republicans had only a slight edge on combating terrorism, an issue that has helped account for the party's political dominance since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.The nationwide telephone poll, of 1,241 adults, was conducted from May 4 to May 8. It has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points.Seventy percent of respondents said the country was heading in the wrong direction, compared with 23 percent who said they approved of the direction in which the country was heading. Those findings are not significantly different from the responses to a CBS News poll last week and suggest that Americans are more pessimistic about the country's direction than at any other time in the 23 years that The Times and CBS News have asked the question.Immigration is another issue undercutting Republicans and Mr. Bush. As Republicans battle over how to respond to illegal immigration, the poll found considerable opposition to the strict measures being pressed by conservative Republicans in the House.About 60 percent of respondents said they favored the plan proposed by some Republicans in the Senate that would permit illegal immigrants who had worked in the United States for at least two years to keep their jobs and apply for citizenship. Just 35 percent endorsed the view of some conservatives that illegal immigrants should be deported. Two-thirds opposed building a 700-mile fence along the United States-Mexican border.The two biggest problems for Mr. Bush and Republicans are gasoline prices and Iraq. By 57 percent to 11 percent, respondents said they trusted Democrats more than Republicans to find a way to curb gasoline prices.Nearly two-thirds of respondents said the increase in gasoline prices was not beyond the control of a president, but 89 percent said this administration did not have a plan to deal with the problem.More than two-thirds said the war in Iraq was to blame for at least some of the increase in gasoline prices. Seventy-one percent said they believed that oil companies were profiting from higher prices, and a majority said oil companies were much closer to the Republican Party than to the Democratic Party."Bush could put in some kind of regulation to control the profits of the oil companies," said Jane North, 43, a Republican from Reisterstown, Md., who said she recently changed her registration to Democrat. "He comes from the oil business, so he certainly knows how it works. I think Bush will just run out his term and not do anything to control gas prices."On Iraq, two-thirds of poll respondents said they disapproved of how the president had handled the war. Fifty-six percent said going to war in the first place was a mistake, up from 50 percent in January. And 60 percent said things were going "somewhat or very badly" in the drive to stabilize the country. Sixty-thre
e percent disapproved of Mr. Bush's handling of foreign policy in general.Still, 55 percent said they believed the effort in Iraq was somewhat or very likely to succeed."We have enough problems here at home without worrying about Iraq," said Bill Trego, 64, a Republican from Waymart, Pa."I believed him at first, in the beginning," Mr. Trego said of Mr. Bush, "that there were weapons of mass destruction and if that was a fact, it was probably not a bad move to go in there. But they didn't find anything. When they couldn't prove it, I realized it was just a barefaced lie."The problems plaguing the Republicans have clearly helped the Democrats: 55 percent said they now had a favorable view of the Democratic Party, compared with 37 percent with an unfavorable view. By contrast, 57 percent had an unfavorable view of Republicans, compared with 37 percent who had a favorable view.The political situation has not helped some of the more prominent members of the Democratic Party. Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts, who was Mr. Bush's opponent in 2004, had a lower approval rating than Mr. Bush: 26 percent, down from 40 percent in a poll conducted right after the election.And just 28 percent said they had a favorable view of Al Gore, one of Mr. Bush's more vocal critics.
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  • SoulhawkSoulhawk 3,197 Posts
    George Bush: "GET ON MY LEVEL"


  • funky16cornersfunky16corners 7,175 Posts
    George Bush: "GET ON MY LEVEL"


    Getting lower every day....

  • CousinLarryCousinLarry 4,618 Posts
    "We should have stayed out of Iraq until we knew more about it," Bernice Davis, a Republican from Lamar, Mo., who said she now disapproved of Mr. Bush's performance, said in a follow-up interview on Tuesday. "The economy is going to pot. Gas prices are escalating.[/b] I just voted for Bush because he's a Republican, even though I disapproved of the war. If I could go back, I would not vote for him."

    These people are the worst. Basically she is saying, "when he was fucking up shit for other people it was ok and I voted for him, but now I have to pay more for gas so fuck his sorry ass." Like you couldn't tell things were headed this way before the election. Get your head out of your ass lady. You can't go back and vote again.

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
    I just voted for Bush because he's a Republican, even though I disapproved of the war.[/b]

    These people are the worst

  • FatbackFatback 6,746 Posts
    When you suck, you suck. And George W. Bush just plain sucks as President. I'm sure he's fun to have over for cookout though.

  • jaymackjaymack 5,199 Posts
    when asked over the weekend, what the best part of his presidency had been, he stammered for a few moments, then finally said something about a fish he had caught.

    when asked what the worst thing was, after stammering, he didnt know!!

    his terms have been filled w/ bad things. bad pr on his part!!

  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts
    When you suck, you suck. And George W. Bush just plain sucks as President. I'm sure he's fun to have over for cookout though.

    You think? I have yet to detect any redeeming personal qualities in him. I would enthusiastically hang with Clinton, though.

  • funky16cornersfunky16corners 7,175 Posts
    When you suck, you suck. And George W. Bush just plain sucks as President. I'm sure he's fun to have over for cookout though.


    Don't know about that. Voted most likely to pee in your flower beds and vomit inside your gas grill....








    ....six years running...

  • SoulhawkSoulhawk 3,197 Posts
    You think? I have yet to detect any redeeming personal qualities in him. I would enthusiastically hang with Clinton, though.

    I read that George Bush makes up endearing nicknames for everyone he meets: he would probably call you "Realie"...

    ---

  • LaserWolfLaserWolf Portland Oregon 11,517 Posts
    when asked over the weekend, what the best part of his presidency had been, he stammered for a few moments, then finally said something about a fish he had caught.

  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts
    You think? I have yet to detect any redeeming personal qualities in him. I would enthusiastically hang with Clinton, though.

    I read that George Bush makes up endearing nicknames for everyone he meets: he would probably call you "Realie"...

    ---

    That is what I'm saying; who wants some jerk who compulsively/autisically makes up "endearing" nicknames at their cookout?

  • kitchenknightkitchenknight 4,922 Posts
    when asked over the weekend, what the best part of his presidency had been, he stammered for a few moments, then finally said something about a fish he had caught.

    when asked what the worst thing was, after stammering, he didnt know!!

    his terms have been filled w/ bad things. bad pr on his part!!

    Actually, that sort of PR has been a hallmark of his presidency; in the 2004 campaign, he was asked if he had made any mistakes as President, and he said no.

    My personal beliefs and the facts of his right/wrongness aside, wouldn't this infallability complex of his run counter to EVERYTHING he so solemnly believes as a Christian? I brought this up to a friend whose mother is a devout evangelical Christian, and he used the word 'apoplectic' to describe her reaction to that statement.

  • DrWuDrWu 4,021 Posts
    When you suck, you suck. And George W. Bush just plain sucks as President. I'm sure he's fun to have over for cookout though.

    You think? I have yet to detect any redeeming personal qualities in him. I would enthusiastically hang with Clinton, though.

    Aren't you both in the same hood. You should call him and grab a cup of joe.

  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts
    When you suck, you suck. And George W. Bush just plain sucks as President. I'm sure he's fun to have over for cookout though.

    You think? I have yet to detect any redeeming personal qualities in him. I would enthusiastically hang with Clinton, though.

    Aren't you both in the same hood. You should call him and grab a cup of joe.

    I don't think he's ever actually in Harlem. I've been hoping to run into him for almost five years now...

  • DrWuDrWu 4,021 Posts
    When you suck, you suck. And George W. Bush just plain sucks as President. I'm sure he's fun to have over for cookout though.

    You think? I have yet to detect any redeeming personal qualities in him. I would enthusiastically hang with Clinton, though.

    Aren't you both in the same hood. You should call him and grab a cup of joe.

    I don't think he's ever actually in Harlem. I've been hoping to run into him for almost five years now...

    It was a great PR move though.

  • I'm sure he's fun to have over for cookout though.

    Eh, not if he's gonna be complaining about the volume of the music.

  • FatbackFatback 6,746 Posts
    I would enthusiastically hang with Clinton, though.


  • DJ_EnkiDJ_Enki 6,471 Posts
    Actually, that sort of PR has been a hallmark of his presidency; in the 2004 campaign, he was asked if he had made any mistakes as President, and he said no.

    My personal beliefs and the facts of his right/wrongness aside, wouldn't this infallability complex of his run counter to EVERYTHING he so solemnly believes as a Christian? I brought this up to a friend whose mother is a devout evangelical Christian, and he used the word 'apoplectic' to describe her reaction to that statement.

    You'd think so, but actually, his infallability complex plays well to a lot of evangelicals. See, they believe that Bush speaks to God, is guided by God--in fact is president due to divine providence. Basically, Bush is carrying out God's will and as such, doesn't really make mistakes. At least not ones of any major consequence.

    I'd like to claim I'm being sarcastic in the above paragraph, but I'm not. I've seen this opinion genuinely expressed more times than I'd care to think about.

    As for "spin this, batches!" Oliver, I'm pretty confident I can predict how it will be spun:

    1) "This poll is bogus--it's done by the New York Times and CBS! We all know that the mainstream media has a liberal bias, but those two are just out-and-out Bush haters. They'll say anything to hurt the president."

    2) "The only poll that counts was taken two years ago, and Bush won. Everything else is irrelevant."

    3) "See, we like Bush because he doesn't govern by the polls. He governs by what's in his heart. Only commie Nazi sicko pervert disgraces like Bill Clinton govern by the polls because they're so depserate to be liked. You lefties just can't stand to see a devout right-wing Christian who is steadfast in his beliefs."

  • kitchenknightkitchenknight 4,922 Posts
    Actually, that sort of PR has been a hallmark of his presidency; in the 2004 campaign, he was asked if he had made any mistakes as President, and he said no.

    My personal beliefs and the facts of his right/wrongness aside, wouldn't this infallability complex of his run counter to EVERYTHING he so solemnly believes as a Christian? I brought this up to a friend whose mother is a devout evangelical Christian, and he used the word 'apoplectic' to describe her reaction to that statement.

    You'd think so, but actually, his infallability complex plays well to a lot of evangelicals. See, they believe that Bush speaks to God, is guided by God--in fact is president due to divine providence. Basically, Bush is carrying out God's will and as such, doesn't really make mistakes. At least not ones of any major consequence.

    I'd like to claim I'm being sarcastic in the above paragraph, but I'm not. I've seen this opinion genuinely expressed more times than I'd care to think about.

    Yeah, I've seen that to; I wasn't saying that all evangelicals agreed with my friend's mom. I'm arguing the infallability contradiction outside of Evangelical crazy land. Hey, I had a confirmation and all, it goes against everything I learned in church.

  • LaserWolfLaserWolf Portland Oregon 11,517 Posts
    Actually, that sort of PR has been a hallmark of his presidency; in the 2004 campaign, he was asked if he had made any mistakes as President, and he said no.

    My personal beliefs and the facts of his right/wrongness aside, wouldn't this infallability complex of his run counter to EVERYTHING he so solemnly believes as a Christian? I brought this up to a friend whose mother is a devout evangelical Christian, and he used the word 'apoplectic' to describe her reaction to that statement.

    You'd think so, but actually, his infallability complex plays well to a lot of evangelicals. See, they believe that Bush speaks to God, is guided by God--in fact is president due to divine providence. Basically, Bush is carrying out God's will and as such, doesn't really make mistakes. At least not ones of any major consequence.

    I'd like to claim I'm being sarcastic in the above paragraph, but I'm not. I've seen this opinion genuinely expressed more times than I'd care to think about.

    I know Evangelicals and this is all true. All Evangelicals/Pentecostal Christians talk to God. Many believe that God talks to them or sends them signs. If things go well in life they are blessed by God, if things go poorly they are being tested by Satan. Many of these people believe that Bush was the answer to their prayers.

  • bull_oxbull_ox 5,056 Posts
    Many of these people believe that Bush was the answer to their prayers.



    Makes me wonder who or what they were actually praying to.

  • FatbackFatback 6,746 Posts
    Keep me in a daydream, keep me goin??? strong,
    You don???t wanna save me, sad is my song.

    When you believe in things that you don???t understand,
    Then you suffer,
    Superstition ain???t the way, yeh, yeh.

    Very superstitious, nothin??? more to say,
    Very superstitious, the devil???s on his way,

  • drewnicedrewnice 5,465 Posts
    I'm sure he's fun to have over for cookout though.

    Eh, not if he's gonna be complaining about the volume of the music.


  • ladydayladyday 623 Posts
    I'm sure he's fun to have over for cookout though.

    Eh, not if he's gonna be complaining about the volume of the music.

    That wedding story still kills me. What a dick.

    A very, very good friend of mine voted for Bush in the last election. We got in a huge argument over that swift boat garbage and my prediction that Bush would be remembered as the worst president in US history. It ended by her saying, "Well, I like him. He seems like a nice guy." I realized then there was no point arguing.

  • rootlesscosmorootlesscosmo 12,848 Posts
    I'm sure he's fun to have over for cookout though.

    Eh, not if he's gonna be complaining about the volume of the music.

    That wedding story still kills me. What a dick.


    A very, very good friend of mine voted for Bush in the last election. We got in a huge argument over that swift boat garbage and my prediction that Bush would be remembered as the worst president in US history. It ended by her saying, "Well, I like him. He seems like a nice guy." I realized then there was no point arguing.


    It's like a lot of liberal commentators have pointed out, the Republicans successfully re-framed the debate from one about "issues" to one about "character." You saw it in both races, and you can hear it in people's defense of Bush.

    Never mind that Bush's "character" is suspect as hell anyway. I won't bring up his past drinking/drug use because that's a disease anyone can be afflicted by (though it should have instilled in him some humility). At the least, though, dude is dishonest as hell. Some "character."

    And no, I wouldn't want his ass at my BBQ. Who needs smirky frat boys at their BBQ? (sorry Ferrari).

  • Young_PhonicsYoung_Phonics 8,039 Posts
    When you suck, you suck. And George W. Bush just plain sucks as President. I'm sure he's fun to have over for cookout though.

    You think? I have yet to detect any redeeming personal qualities in him. I would enthusiastically hang with Clinton, though.

    Aren't you both in the same hood. You should call him and grab a cup of joe.

    I don't think he's ever actually in Harlem. I've been hoping to run into him for almost five years now...


    Stalker-Strut revealed.

  • hogginthefogghogginthefogg 6,098 Posts
    When you suck, you suck. And George W. Bush just plain sucks as President. I'm sure he's fun to have over for cookout though.

    You think? I have yet to detect any redeeming personal qualities in him. I would enthusiastically hang with Clinton, though.

    Aren't you both in the same hood. You should call him and grab a cup of joe.

    I don't think he's ever actually in Harlem. I've been hoping to run into him for almost five years now...


    Stalker-Strut revealed.


    White guy moves to Harlem and spends five years walking around looking for another white guy.

    All the while, you're looking right past thousands of your neighbors, many of whom you could be hanging with almost as enthusiastically.

  • Young_PhonicsYoung_Phonics 8,039 Posts
    When you suck, you suck. And George W. Bush just plain sucks as President. I'm sure he's fun to have over for cookout though.

    You think? I have yet to detect any redeeming personal qualities in him. I would enthusiastically hang with Clinton, though.

    Aren't you both in the same hood. You should call him and grab a cup of joe.

    I don't think he's ever actually in Harlem. I've been hoping to run into him for almost five years now...


    Stalker-Strut revealed.


    White guy moves to Harlem and spends five years walking around looking for another white guy.

    All the while, you're looking right past thousands of your neighbors, many of whom you could be hanging with almost as enthusiastically.



    WHEN PEOPLE STOP ACTING POLITE AND STARTING ACTING REAL!

  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts
    When you suck, you suck. And George W. Bush just plain sucks as President. I'm sure he's fun to have over for cookout though.

    You think? I have yet to detect any redeeming personal qualities in him. I would enthusiastically hang with Clinton, though.

    Aren't you both in the same hood. You should call him and grab a cup of joe.

    I don't think he's ever actually in Harlem. I've been hoping to run into him for almost five years now...


    Stalker-Strut revealed.


    White guy moves to Harlem and spends five years walking around looking for another white guy.

    All the while, you're looking right past thousands of your neighbors, many of whom you could be hanging with almost as enthusiastically.

    This is sadly all true.

    I would like to point out only that I moved there significantly in advance of the carpetbaggeuing Clinton.

  • hogginthefogghogginthefogg 6,098 Posts

    carpetbaggeuing



    Look at what you've done. Now Young Phonics will never, ever be able to spell that word.
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