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Colbert at the White House Correspondents dinner!

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  • lambertlambert 1,166 Posts
    this looks really genuine, what's the deal?
  • Danno3000Danno3000 2,850 Posts
    I have incredible respect for Colbert after watching the first clip. To be so merciless right beside the president--that takes serious chutzpah. Impressive.
  • Danno3000Danno3000 2,850 Posts
    It was legitimate, by the way. The dinner took place last night.
  • bull_oxbull_ox 5,056 Posts
  • SoulOnIceSoulOnIce 13,027 Posts
    I keep expecting him to be dragged off stage
    by a grip of Secret Service agents!
  • crazypoprockcrazypoprock 1,037 Posts
    I keep expecting him to be dragged off stage
    by a grip of Secret Service agents!

    me too...but he didn't and that's what is so brilliant!

    his character's schtick is that he's an uber-Fox News style anchorman so everything he says he's acting sincere about...it's so extreme that it's obviously hardcore criticism of the president and the news corp...but this is at a "roast" where everybody is expected to take some jabs...it's just that they are usually so light-hearted that they are easily laughed off.

    what's funny is that the president portrays himself as such an oaf that you almost wonder if he really sees what's happening...judging by the non-plussed look on his face maybe he's not as stupid as he'd have us believe.
  • mylatencymylatency 10,475 Posts
    I have incredible respect for Colbert after watching the first clip. To be so merciless right beside the president--that takes serious chutzpah. Impressive.

    dude's got balls
    I wonder if GW will actually appear on Colbert's show now
  • LaserWolfLaserWolf Portland Oregon 11,517 Posts
    judging by the non-plussed look on his face maybe he's not as stupid as he'd have us believe.

    He is not.
  • Danno3000Danno3000 2,850 Posts
    It seems a lot of the audience wasn't impressed with Colbert's lambasting fo the president. Frankly, I wonder how appropriate it was given the context. Sometimes propiety trumps protest.
  • LaserWolfLaserWolf Portland Oregon 11,517 Posts
    It seems a lot of the audience wasn't impressed with Colbert's lambasting fo the president. Frankly, I wonder how appropriate it was given the context. Sometimes propiety trumps protest.

    The White House press dinner is supposed to be a roast of the president. Presidents have been sitting through it for years. Clinton went balistic when Imus lit into Hillary. Nothing new, Colbert set no new bar. Personally I thought there was only one good attack line. "IF the goverment that governs lease, governs best, than we are doing a great job in Iraq."
  • Danno3000Danno3000 2,850 Posts
    It's true that I'm not familiar with the routines from past hosts. Still, I thought that Colbert was fairly brutal in his comedy. Joking about getting shot by Cheney is one thing, but his jokes about the president's sagging popularity, his alleged stupidity, and the many failures of his regime were harsh. The essence of much of the humour was the irony of claiming the president was bright for doing that which everyone know's to be stupid (ie the going from the gut stuff, the panama canal gaffe, not reading, rejecting reality, etc). Based on the audience reaction, I wonder whether it was appropriate to use that venue for lambasting the guy. Think what you want of the man, the office demands respect. Anyway, Colbert's delivery was brilliant.
  • kidinquisitivekidinquisitive 1,627 Posts
    Fuck that noise. The man deserves to have someone go to work on him with a pair of pliers and a blow torch.
  • jaymackjaymack 5,199 Posts
    Think what you want of the man, the office demands respect.


  • residentgiantresidentgiant 619 Posts
    Think what you want of the man, the office demands respect. .

    "Hometown: Toronto, Ontario, Canada"

  • Danno3000Danno3000 2,850 Posts
    Think what you want of the man, the office demands respect.



    Are you guys serious? The presidency is an institution that demands respect. To hold otherwise is plainly silly, if not outright absurd. Just because you don't like the president doesn't mean you're entitled to dimiss the presidency as a joke. I'm discouraged that you can't see the distinction.

    If you take issue with this, I suggest you reconsider living in America and look for some sovereign anarchosyndicalist commune where you can live free from your government because you are, in effect, deyning its legitimacy by dismissing the respect owed to its highest office.
  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
    Fuck that noise. The man deserves to have someone go to work on him with a pair of pliers and a blow torch.

    I suggest that child molesting pornographers who are caught on tape be tortured and I'm roasted by the SS mentality, yet taking a blow torch and pliers to the Prez is cool.

    And I waste my time arguing with this mentality....jeeez.....I'm a friggin idiot.
  • kidinquisitivekidinquisitive 1,627 Posts
    Think what you want of the man, the office demands respect.



    Are you guys serious? The presidency is an institution that demands respect. To hold otherwise is plainly silly, if not outright absurd. Just because you don't like the president doesn't mean you're entitled to dimiss the presidency as a joke. I'm discouraged that you can't see the distinction.

    If you take issue with this, I suggest you reconsider living in America and look for some sovereign anarchosyndicalist commune where you can live free from your government because you are, in effect, deyning its legitimacy by dismissing the respect owed to its highest office.

    Yes, the old love it or leave it mantra, although here presented with a rather enticing option. Unfortunately I know of no such autonomous anarchosyndicalist communes to emigrate to. If you know some let me know and I'll look into it. As long as I can bring my records with me.
  • Danno3000Danno3000 2,850 Posts
    Think what you want of the man, the office demands respect. .

    "Hometown: Toronto, Ontario, Canada"


    Oi vey! Let me spell it out for you:

    The President occupied the Presidency. The Presidency is an office. The office demands respect and deference. I can't believe this strikes you as contentious. How disenfranchised must you be for the idea of respecting the presidency to be laughable?
  • Jonny_PaycheckJonny_Paycheck 17,825 Posts
    Dan, with all due respect I don't think it's soulstrutters who have made the office a joke, but the holder of that office himself.
  • kidinquisitivekidinquisitive 1,627 Posts
    Fuck that noise. The man deserves to have someone go to work on him with a pair of pliers and a blow torch.

    I suggest that child molesting pornographers who are caught on tape be tortured and I'm roasted by the SS mentality, yet taking a blow torch and pliers to the Prez is cool.

    And I waste my time arguing with this mentality....jeeez.....I'm a friggin idiot.

    Well, I was paraphrasing a scene from Pulp Fiction. But yes, I think it is a waste of time for you to argue with me. I don't think we'll ever find any common ground when it comes to politics. I will try to restrain myself in the future and keep it record related.
  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
    Think what you want of the man, the office demands respect. .

    "Hometown: Toronto, Ontario, Canada"


    Oi vey! Let me spell it out for you:

    The President occupied the Presidency. The Presidency is an office. The office demands respect and deference. I can't believe this strikes you as contentious. How disenfranchised must you be for the idea of respecting the presidency to be laughable?

    Backpack anarchy dude.
  • Danno3000Danno3000 2,850 Posts

    Yes, the old love it or leave it mantra, although here presented with a rather enticing option.

    I didn't say love it or leave it. I said that as long you're an American citizen you ought to have respect and deference for its elected offices (and a good many appointed ones as well, ie judges). If you don't love the system then I think the onus is on you to change it so that it is to your liking. I'm sure there are all sorts of fringe political movements that would love another volunteer.
  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
    I have found that the terms "Love It Or Leave It" and "You're Either With Us Or Against Us" are used by folks an the far right and far left equally.....the only difference is that folks on the Right come right out and say it while the left uses them in a passive agressive manner.....some sort of dyslexic political hipocrasy
  • Danno3000Danno3000 2,850 Posts
    Dan, with all due respect I don't think it's soulstrutters who have made the office a joke, but the holder of that office himself.

    What are the implications of thinking the presidency is a joke? Do you stop voting? Do you ignore politics? Do you go join some radical group that opposes all government and stockpiles weapons? The implications of dismissing the presidency are serious. So you have a bad president; does that mean the next person who occupies the presidency, perhaps one whose policies you like, is necessarily a joke? Of course not. Having a bad president means you have a bad president. It doesn't mean the entire system is faulty and if it does (and I believe it doesn't), shame on everyone for passively forfeiting their basic freedoms.
  • Danno3000Danno3000 2,850 Posts
    I have found that the terms "Love It Or Leave It" and "You're Either With Us Or Against Us" are used by folks an the far right and far left equally.....the only difference is that folks on the Right come right out and say it while the left uses them in a passive agressive manner.....some sort of dyslexic political hipocrasy

    If I've learnt anything about politics, is that the far ends of the political spectrum have more in common than they have differences.
  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
    I have found that the terms "Love It Or Leave It" and "You're Either With Us Or Against Us" are used by folks an the far right and far left equally.....the only difference is that folks on the Right come right out and say it while the left uses them in a passive agressive manner.....some sort of dyslexic political hipocrasy

    If I've learnt anything about politics, is that the far ends of the political spectrum have more in common than they have differences.

    Co-sign....and anyone who disagrees is obviously on one of the far ends.
  • jaymackjaymack 5,199 Posts
    the entire system is faulty...passively forfeiting their basic freedoms.

  • 33thirdcom33thirdcom 2,049 Posts
    the problem is that the line between the presidency and the office of president is blurred. What you may view as attacking the office may to others, be attacking the person occupying the office.

    I fully support most dissention, because it's what makes this country great. I am not sure where anyone in this thread has said that the office it self is a joke. what I read is posters are just supporting Colbert for having the guts to make a statement in the face of the most powerful CEO, I mean president in the world.

    And as far as Colbert's presentation, I don't even think it was that radical. It was good, but nothing out of line. if the President and the office of the president can't take dissention in the form of comedy, then we have a bigger problem than anything Colbert said.
  • kidinquisitivekidinquisitive 1,627 Posts
    If Danno can't take dissention in the form of comedy, then we have a bigger problem than anything Colbert said.
  • crazypoprockcrazypoprock 1,037 Posts
    Dan, with all due respect I don't think it's soulstrutters who have made the office a joke, but the holder of that office himself.

    THE TRUTH!
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