"New York Shit" and "Dr. Carter" are long loops off of the same comp. Swizz might have the og's, but what a coincidence.
Apologies if this was mentioned already, I didnt read the entire thing.
The fact the people still try to give a shit about this is kinda quaint in 2010.
If you're somebody who wants to hear new sample-based music those cuts should make you happy... where the source material came from doesn't make the songs sound any different.
"New York Shit" and "Dr. Carter" are long loops off of the same comp. Swizz might have the og's, but what a coincidence.
Apologies if this was mentioned already, I didnt read the entire thing.
The fact the people still try to give a shit about this is kinda quaint in 2010.
If you're somebody who wants to hear new sample-based music those cuts should make you happy... where the source material came from doesn't make the songs sound any different.
wait a minute? Swizz sampled two songs off the same Compilation for 2 different songs? Add to that the fact that he might not be in possession OF THE ORIGINAL PRESSINGS?!!?!?!
I take it all back, swizz is the worst producer ever.
Top 15 IMO: 1. Premier 2. Timbo 3. Rick Rubin 4. Dr. Dre 5. Pete Rock 6. Marley Marl 7. RZA 8. Alchemist 9. Prince Paul 10. Large Professor 11. Beatminerz 12. Kanye 13. JD 14. Q-Tip 15. Swizz
i am curious what he'll be doing in 5 years in a way i'm not about, say, the Neptunes...
so?
ok, i'll bite...
well, i can't think of the last new pharrell song i bumped or heard out...
at least i have heard some swizz stuff out, but i haven't been feeling any of it too much... "Give Away A Million Bucks" "he's phoney, she's fake"... both are bangers, but pretty forgettable...
now, IT's ME, BITCHS was my shit...
and to wrap this thread all around itself, Swizz does seem to be sampling alot recently:
I don't see how someone could say a single repetitive keyboard line with some chanting and drum presets is one iota more creative than finding an obscure sample and arranging it in a novel fashion.
"a single repetitive keyboard line with some chanting and drum presets" - are you talking about planet rock?
that was made by banging on a jupiter 8 with a hammer
what the F*ck is a 'swizz beat' anyway? always sounded like some sherbet candy ish to me
And in answer to the op: he is in the 'nowhere' category on my goat list. fo 'swizzle.
HarveyCanal"a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
Top 15 IMO: 1. Premier 2. Timbo 3. Rick Rubin 4. Dr. Dre 5. Pete Rock 6. Marley Marl 7. RZA 8. Alchemist 9. Prince Paul 10. Large Professor 11. Beatminerz 12. Kanye 13. JD 14. Q-Tip 15. Swizz
1. Mannie Fresh 2. Juicy J 3. Pimp C 4. DJ Quik 5. Khayree 6. Kurtis Mantronik 7. Rick Rock 8. Salih Williams 9. Mike Dean 10. Mr. Lee 11. DJ Toomp 12. JT tha Bigga Figga 13. DJ Slip 14. Droop-E 15. Riddlore
The fact the people still try to give a shit about this is kinda quaint in 2010.
If you're somebody who wants to hear new sample-based music those cuts should make you happy... where the source material came from doesn't make the songs sound any different. wait a minute? Swizz sampled two songs off the same Compilation for 2 different songs? Add to that the fact that he might not be in possession OF THE ORIGINAL PRESSINGS?!!?!?!
I take it all back, swizz is the worst producer ever. I could care less where he get's his sounds. Just thought it was interesting is all. I sample Dusty comps on the regular.
I would'nt put Swizz on the goat farm, either. I agree with dude that said it's hard to recall five of his joints off the top of the head.
Top 15 IMO: 1. Premier 2. Timbo 3. Rick Rubin 4. Dr. Dre 5. Pete Rock 6. Marley Marl 7. RZA 8. Alchemist 9. Prince Paul 10. Large Professor 11. Beatminerz 12. Kanye 13. JD 14. Q-Tip 15. Swizz
Alchemist > Prince Paul?
I know, I just realized that too. But it's hard to really get them in a good order cause you keep thinking of hot schitt they did while you're listing them. It took me like 15 mins to come up with & keep that order. Alchemist ranks a bit high for "Keep it Thoro" alone, IMO. I'm surprised I haven't been attacked for where I placed Dilla.
couldnt read more than a quarter of this thread but -- his new shit is overrated, his early shit is way way underrated (money cash hoes is A++++ classic)
Top 15 IMO: 1. Premier 2. Timbo 3. Rick Rubin 4. Dr. Dre 5. Pete Rock 6. Marley Marl 7. RZA 8. Alchemist 9. Prince Paul 10. Large Professor 11. Beatminerz 12. Kanye 13. JD 14. Q-Tip 15. Swizz
Please to replace Alchemist, Beatminerz and Swizzy with Just Blaze, Mannie Fresh and DJ Quik.
Top 15 IMO: 1. Premier 2. Timbo 3. Rick Rubin 4. Dr. Dre 5. Pete Rock 6. Marley Marl 7. RZA 8. Alchemist 9. Prince Paul 10. Large Professor 11. Beatminerz 12. Kanye 13. JD 14. Q-Tip 15. Swizz
No DITC producers? Diamond, Showbiz, etc don't deserve a spot over Swizz?
Top 15 IMO: 1. Premier 2. Timbo 3. Rick Rubin 4. Dr. Dre 5. Pete Rock 6. Marley Marl 7. RZA 8. Alchemist 9. Prince Paul 10. Large Professor 11. Beatminerz 12. Kanye 13. JD 14. Q-Tip 15. Swizz
No DITC producers? Diamond, Showbiz, etc don't deserve a spot over Swizz?
You're right!! I can't believe I missed DITC completely. These damn lists are too hard to cram into a top 10 or even a top 20. I give up. All of DITC deserve to be higher than Swizz. I just heard the song he did with Jay-Z on BluePrint 3 and damn that song sucks!! Everything Swizz does sounds alike: that same damn snare, same tambourine, same drum pattern and that God forsaken whistle!!
But seriously, I hear "On To The Next One" bumping out of cars all over the place, and while it may not be groundbreaking, neither were a lot of those DITC joints, much as I love boom-bap and dusty loops.
Swizz has been consistently making HUGE joints for well over a decade. I think mainstream rap may just not be for you.
But seriously, I hear "On To The Next One" bumping out of cars all over the place, and while it may not be groundbreaking, neither were a lot of those DITC joints, much as I love boom-bap and dusty loops.
Swizz has been consistently making HUGE joints for well over a decade. I think mainstream rap may just not be for you.
Your skirt is showing!! Just cause a few cars are bumping the same song don't mean nothing except those drivers all have the same bad taste in music. That song will be forgotten about by next week. I don't mind mainstream stuff, don't get me wrong, but this is on the lines of cookie cutter or processed cheese. He beats his formula to death. Who cares about consistency, the damn Jonas Brothers are consistent. We're talking about great producers and although consistency is a big part, a great producer can reinvent themselves and change it up, hence Timbaland. Swizz has been doing the same damn thing since his first beat on The Lox first LP almost 13 years ago. His production has no depth, it's one shake your ass beat after another. He re-does the same schitt over & over. I feel your view though, you looove you some Swizz!!!
But seriously, I hear "On To The Next One" bumping out of cars all over the place, and while it may not be groundbreaking, neither were a lot of those DITC joints, much as I love boom-bap and dusty loops.
Swizz has been consistently making HUGE joints for well over a decade. I think mainstream rap may just not be for you.
Your skirt is showing!! Just cause a few cars are bumping the same song don't mean nothing except those drivers all have the same bad taste in music. That song will be forgotten about by next week. I don't mind mainstream stuff, don't get me wrong, but this is on the lines of cookie cutter or processed cheese. He beats his formula to death. Who cares about consistency, the damn Jonas Brothers are consistent. We're talking about great producers and although consistency is a big part, a great producer can reinvent themselves and change it up, hence Timbaland. Swizz has been doing the same damn thing since his first beat on The Lox first LP almost 13 years ago. His production has no depth, it's one shake your ass beat after another. He re-does the same schitt over & over. I feel your view though, you looove you some Swizz!!!
I'm an unapologetic fan of major mainstream, uber backpack and everything in between, if I dig it...
I've always despised Swizz Beats. I feel like 90%+ of his beats totally fall apart if you remove the annoying "aye, aye, aye" or "go, go, go" or "uh, uh, uh" that accompanies every other 8th note. If you do a search on youtube for "Swizz Beatz", literally every damn track on the first 2 pages (at least)has an annoying ass "aye aye aye" or whateverthafuck on the 8th's. Maybe that's his "signature" shit but it's annoying and just makes his beats sound that much more one dimensional.
'wile out' & 'money cash hoes' & 'what you want' were groundbreaking. I would rank early swizz over ditc producer dudes
His early stuff was real sick because it was new & fresh but now, 12-13 years later it's not. It's just the same old bells & whistles. But "Money, Cash, Hoes" & "Tear the ruff off" are still my schitt though!
Comments
SWIZZY!
Weird I always thought she was a lesbian.
tri-sexual
He's not.
The fact the people still try to give a shit about this is kinda quaint in 2010.
If you're somebody who wants to hear new sample-based music those cuts should make you happy... where the source material came from doesn't make the songs sound any different.
wait a minute? Swizz sampled two songs off the same Compilation for 2 different songs? Add to that the fact that he might not be in possession OF THE ORIGINAL PRESSINGS?!!?!?!
I take it all back, swizz is the worst producer ever.
Alchemist > Prince Paul?
ok, i'll bite...
well, i can't think of the last new pharrell song i bumped or heard out...
at least i have heard some swizz stuff out, but i haven't been feeling any of it too much... "Give Away A Million Bucks" "he's phoney, she's fake"... both are bangers, but pretty forgettable...
now, IT's ME, BITCHS was my shit...
and to wrap this thread all around itself, Swizz does seem to be sampling alot recently:
"a single repetitive keyboard line with some chanting and drum presets" - are you talking about planet rock?
that was made by banging on a jupiter 8 with a hammer
always sounded like some sherbet candy ish to me
And in answer to the op: he is in the 'nowhere' category on my goat list.
fo 'swizzle.
1. Mannie Fresh
2. Juicy J
3. Pimp C
4. DJ Quik
5. Khayree
6. Kurtis Mantronik
7. Rick Rock
8. Salih Williams
9. Mike Dean
10. Mr. Lee
11. DJ Toomp
12. JT tha Bigga Figga
13. DJ Slip
14. Droop-E
15. Riddlore
Yo, I've always been digging that Hi-Ho beat.
Was this guy one of the Elves from Lord Of The Rings?
of all time no one from the above quoted list cracks your top 15
i feel you on mannie and quik but droop-e vs peterock
seriously
Obviously, I listed 15 producers who hadn't been mentioned on Breez's list.
But of course the other point was that there is by now more than one monolithic aesthetic for what constitutes great rap production.
i want to have battlecat on my list but he would not crack my traditional top 10
The fact the people still try to give a shit about this is kinda quaint in 2010.
If you're somebody who wants to hear new sample-based music those cuts should make you happy... where the source material came from doesn't make the songs sound any different.
wait a minute? Swizz sampled two songs off the same Compilation for 2 different songs? Add to that the fact that he might not be in possession OF THE ORIGINAL PRESSINGS?!!?!?!
I take it all back, swizz is the worst producer ever.
I could care less where he get's his sounds. Just thought it was interesting is all. I sample Dusty comps on the regular.
I would'nt put Swizz on the goat farm, either. I agree with dude that said it's hard to recall five of his joints off the top of the head.
I know, I just realized that too. But it's hard to really get them in a good order cause you keep thinking of hot schitt they did while you're listing them. It took me like 15 mins to come up with & keep that order. Alchemist ranks a bit high for "Keep it Thoro" alone, IMO. I'm surprised I haven't been attacked for where I placed Dilla.
Please to replace Alchemist, Beatminerz and Swizzy with Just Blaze, Mannie Fresh and DJ Quik.
No DITC producers? Diamond, Showbiz, etc don't deserve a spot over Swizz?
You're right!! I can't believe I missed DITC completely. These damn lists are too hard to cram into a top 10 or even a top 20. I give up. All of DITC deserve to be higher than Swizz. I just heard the song he did with Jay-Z on BluePrint 3 and damn that song sucks!! Everything Swizz does sounds alike: that same damn snare, same tambourine, same drum pattern and that God forsaken whistle!!
But seriously, I hear "On To The Next One" bumping out of cars all over the place, and while it may not be groundbreaking, neither were a lot of those DITC joints, much as I love boom-bap and dusty loops.
Swizz has been consistently making HUGE joints for well over a decade. I think mainstream rap may just not be for you.
Your skirt is showing!! Just cause a few cars are bumping the same song don't mean nothing except those drivers all have the same bad taste in music. That song will be forgotten about by next week. I don't mind mainstream stuff, don't get me wrong, but this is on the lines of cookie cutter or processed cheese. He beats his formula to death. Who cares about consistency, the damn Jonas Brothers are consistent. We're talking about great producers and although consistency is a big part, a great producer can reinvent themselves and change it up, hence Timbaland. Swizz has been doing the same damn thing since his first beat on The Lox first LP almost 13 years ago. His production has no depth, it's one shake your ass beat after another. He re-does the same schitt over & over. I feel your view though, you looove you some Swizz!!!
right. Except Timbaland is wack now. Swizz isnt.
I've always despised Swizz Beats. I feel like 90%+ of his beats totally fall apart if you remove the annoying "aye, aye, aye" or "go, go, go" or "uh, uh, uh" that accompanies every other 8th note. If you do a search on youtube for "Swizz Beatz", literally every damn track on the first 2 pages (at least)has an annoying ass "aye aye aye" or whateverthafuck on the 8th's. Maybe that's his "signature" shit but it's annoying and just makes his beats sound that much more one dimensional.
His early stuff was real sick because it was new & fresh but now, 12-13 years later it's not. It's just the same old bells & whistles. But "Money, Cash, Hoes" & "Tear the ruff off" are still my schitt though!