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What is SS's opinion on Sublime - 40 oz to Freedom

mandrewmandrew 2,720 Posts
edited January 2006 in Strut Central
i saw this in one of guzzo's friends top 10 lps lists and i was like 'huh, i kind of liked that album 10 years ago but i don't think i like it anymore, and a top 10? suspect.'

i've never seen it discussed here, so i'd like to know,,, what do you think of this ska/punk/rap all-around genre-bending album embraced fully by the entire rael orange county surf/skate community




edit - feel free to discuss sublime s/t as well

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  • KARLITOKARLITO 991 Posts
    I think it's a great record save a few cuts. Brad was the real deal. That dude had one of the most soulful voices of our generation...I like "Robbin' the Hood" beter though....
  • GuzzoGuzzo 8,611 Posts
    i saw this in one of guzzo's friends top 10 lps lists and i was like 'huh, i kind of liked that album 10 years ago but i don't think i like it anymore, and a top 10? suspect.'


    do not ever put the words "guzzo" "Top ten" and "sublime" in the same sentence again.
  • BrianBrian 7,618 Posts
    god i hate sublime
  • waxjunkywaxjunky 1,849 Posts
    I lived in Los Angeles at the time that album came out and had no idea it was as big as it was. I really thought it was more of a local thing. Wasn't until I got to the East Coast a couple years ago, where I heard people still rocking it, that I realized how much people liked that record.

    It's a classic party CD that will go over in most crowds. No dive bar jukebox would be complete without it (Journey's Greatest Hits is also essential).
  • KARLITOKARLITO 991 Posts
    god i hate sublime
    hate in it's contemporary definition (read jealousy) right?
  • SoulOnIceSoulOnIce 13,027 Posts
    It is an album I honestly enjoy,
    but can't play around my friends because they
    hate it, and I would expect the majority of SS
    to hate it, too.

    Shit, I don't even know why I like it...it's derivative,
    amateurish and simplistic. Still, something about it always
    appealed to me. Maybe their sincerity?

  • KARLITOKARLITO 991 Posts
    Maybe their sincerity?
    I think you hit the nail on the head. They were not faking when they made that record it was real for them and that is why it is real for people who can put away there pretentions long enough to see that. Plus most of the shit people on SS RAVE about is "derivative,
    amateurish and simplistic." ie. tepid funk terds, raer privat press, xian records...the list goes on...
  • mandrewmandrew 2,720 Posts
    i saw this in one of guzzo's friends top 10 lps lists and i was like 'huh, i kind of liked that album 10 years ago but i don't think i like it anymore, and a top 10? suspect.'


    do not ever put the words "guzzo" "Top ten" and "sublime" in the same sentence again.

    what about...

    top 10 lps guzzo finds most offensive[/b]

    sublime - 40 oz
    sublime - s/t
    beastie boys - don't be such a f*ggot
    jeff's greatest hits
    ...
  • rootlesscosmorootlesscosmo 12,848 Posts
    It is an album I honestly enjoy,
    but can't play around my friends because they
    hate it, and I would expect the majority of SS
    to hate it, too.

    Shit, I don't even know why I like it...it's derivative,
    amateurish and simplistic. Still, something about it always
    appealed to me. Maybe their sincerity?



    man is this written in some sort of verse? props.

    btw a good record. just because lame people enjoy a record should never take away from its quality (though I'll admit it sometimes does in my head).

    dude was real: great songwriter and good voice. too bad he caught a bad one.
  • GuzzoGuzzo 8,611 Posts
    i saw this in one of guzzo's friends top 10 lps lists and i was like 'huh, i kind of liked that album 10 years ago but i don't think i like it anymore, and a top 10? suspect.'


    do not ever put the words "guzzo" "Top ten" and "sublime" in the same sentence again.

    what about...

    top 10 lps guzzo finds most offensive[/b]


    beastie boys - don't be such a f*ggot

    I like that album. Hip-hop classic

    "I did her with a whiffle ball bat"
  • BrianBrian 7,618 Posts
    god i hate sublime
    hate in it's contemporary definition (read jealousy) right?
    no man, just that shit was completely overplayed here. i think for an entire summer, all i heard from bob marley's legend and some random sublime cd.
  • shitzrshitzr 648 Posts
    that shit was completely overplayed here. i think for an entire summer, all i heard from bob marley's legend and some random sublime cd.

    what about when they played the fuck out of santeria. even kccn was bumping it. yeah, i hate sublime too.
  • holmesholmes 3,532 Posts
    Sublime = great band that blew up & were then overplayed by every kid with a lowered Integra/RX/Familia etc. etc. On Saturday nights you can still sometimes hear that Riot on the Streets of Miami bassline rattling trunks for some clueless pleb. Anyways, 40 Oz is a prob my fave Sublime record, so many classics on that one Date Rape, Two Joints, Badfish, Chica, KRS, not forgetting the covers of Hope & Only Gonna Die. That record definitely = good time memories of 93-94. I don't listen to it often anymore though, more a album from a part of my life I am nowhere near anymore.
  • holmesholmes 3,532 Posts
    that shit was completely overplayed here. i think for an entire summer, all i heard from bob marley's legend and some random sublime cd.

    what about when they played the fuck out of santeria. even kccn was bumping it. yeah, i hate sublime too.
    Don't leave out What I Got & Wrong Way, fucking inescapable, yuck.
  • PrimeCutsLtdPrimeCutsLtd jersey fresh 2,632 Posts
    40oz is a great record. Sublime was a band on the verge of being huge. I got to say is was one of the best albums to come out in the 90's. Overplayed hell yea. I was one of them overplaying it. Hell I wouldn't mind a new long beach dub allstars record. The Herbie man sample on summertime was
  • mandrewmandrew 2,720 Posts
    The Herbie man sample on summertime was

  • SwayzeSwayze 14,705 Posts
    the people i heard sublime through are all meth headz now, and back then, it made me want to distance myself from that whole sound... my kid is really into them though. last night i listened to some old suicidal tendencies and circle jerks. now that's some memories right thurr.
  • SouthCrackalackSouthCrackalack 3,853 Posts
    c-o-r-n-y



    (ok, i've never heard their albums ...but their singles were ridicously cheesy)
  • holmesholmes 3,532 Posts
    old suicidal tendencies and circle jerks. now that's some memories right thurr.
    A-fricken-men
  • SwayzeSwayze 14,705 Posts
    god i hate sublime
    unfortunatly,
    No dive bar jukebox would be complete without it
  • dig_thisdig_this 279 Posts
    last night i listened to some old suicidal tendencies and circle jerks. now that's some memories right thurr.


    for real! in junior high my friend Monte came back from a CA vacation with his folks to Venice....he gave me a ST cassette and flossed his Dogtown deck signed by Eric Dressen. I was scared to put that tape in for about a week...




    ...but after I did it was that and Thrasher Skate Rock Volume 3 (Steve Caballero's "You Will Go"!) for days.



    Sublime's OK by me, guilty pleasures abound.
  • mylatencymylatency 10,475 Posts
    it's kind of like college kids who rep Bob Marley all the time when you ask them about music or reggae
  • prof_rockwellprof_rockwell 2,867 Posts
    OK, I'm gonna get all academic - I think one should consider the historical and geographic context that this album came out in.

    Namely mid 90's LA funkpunkhiphop. This was right on the crest of Red Hot Chili Peppers blowing the roof off, and Beastie Boys picking their instruments back up and doing hardcore tracks peppered inbetween their hip hop and soul tracks. You also had Fishbone and Rage Against The Machine doing their thing as well. This was THE LA sound and arguably was the beginning of all these raprock mashup bands ala Linkin Park and Limp Bizkit.

    I had a lot of rocker friends that stopped listening to Beastie Boys when Pauls Boutique came out because it wasn't all Led Zeppelin like Licensed to Ill, but when Check Your Head came out, they went back and 'discovered' Paul's Boutique again, and thus began the hip hop education of the Extreme set. I mean damn, if you were at a house party in Venice Beach anytime from 1991-1997 it was all RHCP, Beastie Boys, Cypress Hill, House of Pain, RATM, Janes Addiction/Porno for Pyros, Pharcyde etc. etc. It's a product of it's environment - sunny good times let's have a beer and a blunt and get laid on the beach music.

    Good times....
  • dstill808dstill808 704 Posts
    I liked that LP till I went to college.
  • rootlesscosmorootlesscosmo 12,848 Posts
    Rage Against The Machine

    that on the other hand is a terrible band right there.

    Sucicidal is the realest thing that's been mentioned here in this thread. You can't fuck with those essays.
  • mylatencymylatency 10,475 Posts
    I liked that LP till I went to college.

    aren't you djing tonite?
    I'm already too drunk to drive though.
  • goodwill_huntinggoodwill_hunting 324 Posts
    40 oz to freedom is one of my alltime favorite records, i grew up listening to that shit, i still love it, can't believe people aren't into it, i can see why someone wouldn't like the self titled but 40 oz was raw, it's a masterpiece, i fucking love it, especially the original version before mca picked it up, they ended up deleting a few songs and samples from the album, including the song get out! which is nice
  • prof_rockwellprof_rockwell 2,867 Posts
    Rage Against The Machine

    that on the other hand is a terrible band right there.


    Go see RATM in the UCLA student union on the eve of their debut album dropping with about 500 kids throwing each other all over the place and you'll change your mind. But you'd need HG Wells for that.

    and definite on ST. I'm not very educated on them, but they were large.
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