For anyone who didn't follow the link. Not so fast.
If my heart is so dark and my soul so twisted that I would commit the self-mutilatory act of purchasing this record, think what I would do to you before saying anything else, young paycheck.
Yeah - I bought this CD and never took off the plastic, cuz I thought it looked lame. Had buyers remorse. But, years later I was bored in my car and opened it. Was surprised! The youtube clips sound good now too.
I listen to this every now and then and always love it. It's solid from beginning to end. A few lyrical foibles, but the production is great. Some awesome lines on there too. I always love this verse on some best/worst rapper ever steez:
[Verse Two: Dreddy Krueger]
I be the Bushwick dutchmaster rapper
I love black women and I hate fuckin crackers
Check me yo
My breath stink 'cause I smoke skunk punk
everyday of the month
in a dutchmaster fuckin blunt
Bust the cliche
Niggas talkin he-say-she-say about me
ya bitch-ass-niggas
Y'all not ass, y'all titty
y'all style is shitty
How dare you try to represent New York fuckin City
I been down since BVDs and dew rags
shelltops and shags
I was a little badass with regular and tre bags
Always tryin to get shit I never had
'cause times is bad like luck
That's why I don't give a fuck
I dig up my nose and my butt
on the bus or the train
This is for niggas walkin in the rain
listenin to they walkman(e)
talkin the New York fuckin slang
On another nerdy note, prince paul's production is great. One thing that stood out to me yesterday when I listened to it was the hi hats. When you use actual breaks in production, throwing extra hi hats on top can go both ways. It can add to the break in a good way or it can take the break and make it sound lame and drum machiney. It's a really fine line. Dre does it well on the chronic and prince Paul does it really well on this album. There are some really nice sounding extra hi hats on there, as dumb as that sounds. And the reuse of plug tunin drums, as previously mentioned as a deterent, actually works really well. Paul is one of the best producers who gets a lot of credit, but really doesn get the full credit he deserves.
1-800-SUICIDE was also on the "Demon Knight" soundtrack, which may not seem like much but it was the only hip-hop song on an album filled with then-popular bands like Pantera, Megadeth and Filter - it sold well and came out around the same time as Six Feet Deep ... it had to help them sell at least a few thousand copies of their own album to the hesher set, if not more. They are definitely a rap group that dudes I know who don't like rap will name-check and know songs by.
1-800-SUICIDE was also on the "Demon Knight" soundtrack, which may not seem like much but it was the only hip-hop song on an album filled with then-popular bands like Pantera, Megadeth and Filter - it sold well and came out around the same time as Six Feet Deep ... it had to help them sell at least a few thousand copies of their own album to the hesher set, if not more. They are definitely a rap group that dudes I know who don't like rap will name-check and know songs by.
yes, great point, they definitely crossed over with heavy metal guys I knew back then because of this.
On another nerdy note, prince paul's production is great.
i would say this album has some of the best mixing ive ever heard too.
Yup.
dj_cityboy said:
jaymack said:
staxwax said:
When it came out a lot of heads passed because of the re-use of many classic and familiar samples in the production
ummm...did this really happen?
yeah a lot of the samples/beats were reused, there are a couple of reviews that have stated this...
re: the biz markie ish, seven minutes of funk....
I was speaking from a personal perspective - a lot of heads in my circle were not feeling it for that reason, also the record had a lot of perceived crossover appeal ("horrorcore" = worst attempt at niche-ing ever) - the reception might have had something to do with that too. Dont know if reviewers felt that way at the time. But the bang your head tune was undoubtedly a call to arms for the flannel shirt festival crowd.
I listen to this every now and then and always love it. It's solid from beginning to end. A few lyrical foibles, but the production is great. Some awesome lines on there too. I always love this verse on some best/worst rapper ever steez:
[Verse Two: Dreddy Krueger]
I be the Bushwick dutchmaster rapper
I love black women and I hate fuckin crackers
Check me yo
My breath stink 'cause I smoke skunk punk
everyday of the month
in a dutchmaster fuckin blunt
Bust the cliche
Niggas talkin he-say-she-say about me
ya bitch-ass-niggas
Y'all not ass, y'all titty
y'all style is shitty
How dare you try to represent New York fuckin City
I been down since BVDs and dew rags
shelltops and shags
I was a little badass with regular and tre bags
Always tryin to get shit I never had
'cause times is bad like luck
That's why I don't give a fuck
I dig up my nose and my butt
on the bus or the train
This is for niggas walkin in the rain
listenin to they walkman(e)
talkin the New York fuckin slang
On another nerdy note, prince paul's production is great. One thing that stood out to me yesterday when I listened to it was the hi hats. When you use actual breaks in production, throwing extra hi hats on top can go both ways. It can add to the break in a good way or it can take the break and make it sound lame and drum machiney. It's a really fine line. Dre does it well on the chronic and prince Paul does it really well on this album. There are some really nice sounding extra hi hats on there, as dumb as that sounds. And the reuse of plug tunin drums, as previously mentioned as a deterent, actually works really well. Paul is one of the best producers who gets a lot of credit, but really doesn get the full credit he deserves.
Comments
1. Gravediggaz - The Reincarnation Of Freud (1:18)
2. Gravediggaz - 1-800 Suicide (New Vocal Version) (3:42)
3. Gravediggaz - 1-800 Suicide (Flip Squad Mix) (3:51)
4. Gravediggaz - 1-800 Suicide (Gangsta Mix) (4:15)
5. Gravediggaz - 1-800 Suicide (Poisonous Mix) (4:33)
6. Gravediggaz - 1-800 Suicide (Dig Deep Mix) (3:50)
7. Gravediggaz - Mommy What's A Gravedigga (Rza Mix) [Clean] (4:07)
8. Gravediggaz - Mommy What's A Gravedigga (Uptight Crate Digga Mix) (3:40)
9. Gravediggaz - Mommy What's A Gravedigga? (Cali Mix) (4:15)
10. Gravediggaz - Bang Your Head (Substantial Mix) (4:07)
11. Gravediggaz - Bang Your Head (Underdog Mix) (4:51)
12. Gravediggaz - Pass the Shovel (3:36)
13. Gravediggaz - Freak The Sorceress (3:58)
14. Gravediggaz - From The Dark Side (3:47)
15. Tricky vs The Gravediggaz - Tonite Is A Special Nite (Chaos Mass Confusion Mix) (4:44)
16. Gravediggaz - Ahh Here Comes the Gravediggaz (demo) (2:38)
17. Gravediggaz - Ashes to Ashes (demo) (4:08)
I'm embarrassed to admit that I was once hoodwinked into buying a copy of this, which was predictably awful (but was on red vinyl!):
http://www.discogs.com/Tricky-vs-Gravediggaz-The-The-Hell-EP/release/166753
If my heart is so dark and my soul so twisted that I would commit the self-mutilatory act of purchasing this record, think what I would do to you before saying anything else, young paycheck.
I WEPEAT: MY HEAWT IS SO DAWK AND MY SOUL IS SO TWISTED THAT I POICHASED A TWICKY WECKAWD![/spittle]
thanx yo!
Still, it's no ICP.
is it some Gee Street promo thing or what? Euro?
[Verse Two: Dreddy Krueger]
I be the Bushwick dutchmaster rapper
I love black women and I hate fuckin crackers
Check me yo
My breath stink 'cause I smoke skunk punk
everyday of the month
in a dutchmaster fuckin blunt
Bust the cliche
Niggas talkin he-say-she-say about me
ya bitch-ass-niggas
Y'all not ass, y'all titty
y'all style is shitty
How dare you try to represent New York fuckin City
I been down since BVDs and dew rags
shelltops and shags
I was a little badass with regular and tre bags
Always tryin to get shit I never had
'cause times is bad like luck
That's why I don't give a fuck
I dig up my nose and my butt
on the bus or the train
This is for niggas walkin in the rain
listenin to they walkman(e)
talkin the New York fuckin slang
On another nerdy note, prince paul's production is great. One thing that stood out to me yesterday when I listened to it was the hi hats. When you use actual breaks in production, throwing extra hi hats on top can go both ways. It can add to the break in a good way or it can take the break and make it sound lame and drum machiney. It's a really fine line. Dre does it well on the chronic and prince Paul does it really well on this album. There are some really nice sounding extra hi hats on there, as dumb as that sounds. And the reuse of plug tunin drums, as previously mentioned as a deterent, actually works really well. Paul is one of the best producers who gets a lot of credit, but really doesn get the full credit he deserves.
I leave the hearty party with a bang bizza boom
bum bum bum bum (guitar plucks) - "got my man BB Frutikwan on guitar."
and
most non-Biz Markie use of Biz Markie on Constant Elevation.
1-800-SUICIDE was also on the "Demon Knight" soundtrack, which may not seem like much but it was the only hip-hop song on an album filled with then-popular bands like Pantera, Megadeth and Filter - it sold well and came out around the same time as Six Feet Deep ... it had to help them sell at least a few thousand copies of their own album to the hesher set, if not more. They are definitely a rap group that dudes I know who don't like rap will name-check and know songs by.
Yup.
re: the biz markie ish, seven minutes of funk....
I was speaking from a personal perspective - a lot of heads in my circle were not feeling it for that reason, also the record had a lot of perceived crossover appeal ("horrorcore" = worst attempt at niche-ing ever) - the reception might have had something to do with that too. Dont know if reviewers felt that way at the time. But the bang your head tune was undoubtedly a call to arms for the flannel shirt festival crowd.
"dew rag" RLMAO.......
What a coincidence
I, myself, read it while in my shadow palace
D.E.L.E.T.E.
bang your motherfucking head....