this joe the plumber shit is insane. i assumed that the mccain campaign would drop it after "joe" was revealed to be a fraud, after it became obvious that "joe" does not exist. i understand (assume) that he has some sort of symbolic value to some people, but as a symbol he is absolutely empty on the inside. there's no real story to prop up this symbol. it seems to be indicative of the desperation in mccain's camp. mccain has become the 45 year old dude who argues that professional wrestling is real.
Gergen almost had a seizure two nights ago on CNN when the showed clips of JTP talking about Israel. He just couldn't believe that McCain would allow this guy to speak about foreign policy. Disgraceful.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121Gergen almost had a seizure two nights ago on CNN when the showed clips of JTP talking about Israel. He just couldn't believe that McCain would allow this guy to speak about foreign policy. Disgraceful. b, 21b, 21h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121What? He's letting Joe weigh in on real shit? Isn't the guy who said he just wanted to get back to his private life? b,121b,121I guess SNL was on some life imitates art stuff. McCain really is going to put Joe on his cabinet.
I was down in Toledo yesterday buying records - Obama signs everywhere - 'Joe' is somewhat of an embarrasment I guess - "he's not even a real plumber! I retired after 30 years in the union blah blah blah..."b,121b,121bought a private Ohio metal lp from a group called 'Lester Maddox' - named for the notorious segregationist gov of GAb,121b,121 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nagl2.gif" alt="" /1 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/emil.gif" alt="" /1
Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121Gergen almost had a seizure two nights ago on CNN when the showed clips of JTP talking about Israel. He just couldn't believe that McCain would allow this guy to speak about foreign policy. Disgraceful. b, 21b, 21h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121What? He's letting Joe weigh in on real shit? Isn't the guy who said he just wanted to get back to his private life? b,121b,121I guess SNL was on some life imitates art stuff. McCain really is going to put Joe on his cabinet. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121Dude...this schitt was unbelievable. I realize views on Israel run the gambit, but holy crap I cannot believe they let this dude even have a chance to field this question, let alone answer it.b,121b, 21hahah...and to boot. Even the commentator on FOX NEWS was disgraced by this action. Talk about a horrible campaign McCain is running. b, 21b, 21object width="425" height="344"1param name="movie" value=""1/param1param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"1/param1param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"1/param1embed src="" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"1/embed1/object1
font class="post"1b,121b,121(qualified) props to the Fox newscaster for the clarifying statement at the end.b, 21b, 21Joe's response was pathetic: "I'll let your viewers go ahead and figure out why I said that...."b,121b,121what a farce of a campaign McCain is running.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121Gergen almost had a seizure two nights ago on CNN when the showed clips of JTP talking about Israel. He just couldn't believe that McCain would allow this guy to speak about foreign policy. Disgraceful. b, 21b, 21h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121What? He's letting Joe weigh in on real shit? Isn't the guy who said he just wanted to get back to his private life? b,121b,121I guess SNL was on some life imitates art stuff. McCain really is going to put Joe on his cabinet. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121Dude...this schitt was unbelievable. I realize views on Israel run the gambit, but holy crap I cannot believe they let this dude even have a chance to field this question, let alone answer it.b,121b, 21hahah...and to boot. Even the commentator on FOX NEWS was disgraced by this action. Talk about a horrible campaign McCain is running. b, 21b, 21object width="425" height="344"1param name="movie" value=""1/param1param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"1/param1param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"1/param1embed src="" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"1/embed1/object1 b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121"Joe, do you KNOW Obama's positions on Israel?"b,121b,121"Uhhh....well...I know you're looking for information here, Shepherd, and I'm not gonna help you out on that one."b,121b,121LOLb, 21b, 21The McCain camp is going to be FORCED to hire him just so they can effectively stick him in some remote outpost somewhere with an aide to make sure he only says scripted bites to approved reporters. Talk about going off the reservation! Maverick!!
Tthe McCain campaign had to bus in 3-4000 schoolkids to the gig featured above, because they initially only filled about 1/3 of the gym.b,121b, 21Can you imagine how wack it must be to get bussed in the cold and rain to a McCain rally? These are junior high school and high school kids.b, 21b, 21And I'd love to be a fly on the wall when McCain finally catches up with JTP...b,121b,121"Joe... my friend! SO, what the F*ck happened today?"b,121b,121"Yeah, so, I was gonna come over there to the event, but then I had to do some stuff."b,121b,121"..."
Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121Tthe McCain campaign had to bus in 3-4000 schoolkids to the gig featured above, because they initially only filled about 1/3 of the gym.b,121b, 21Can you imagine how wack it must be to get bussed in the cold and rain to a McCain rally? These are junior high school and high school kids.b, 21b, 21And I'd love to be a fly on the wall when McCain finally catches up with JTP...b,121b,121"Joe... my friend! SO, what the F*ck happened today?"b,121b,121"Yeah, so, I was gonna come over there to the event, but then I had to do some stuff."b,121b,121"...b1You CUNT/b1!" b, 21b, 21h,121
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font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121b,121Uhhhhhh....hummina, hummina, hummina...b,121b,121b,121b/wb,121b,121b,121That woman in the green coat on the right is shaped like a penisb,121b,121b,121b/wb,121b,121b,121Watch this McCain spokesman get sonned times infinity...b,121b,121b,121object width="425" height="344"1param name="movie" value=""1/param1param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"1/param1embed src="" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"1/embed1/object1
font class="post"1b,121b,121(qualified) props to the Fox newscaster for the clarifying statement at the end.b,121b,121Joe's response was pathetic: "I'll let your viewers go ahead and figure out why I said that...."b,121b,121what a farce of a campaign McCain is running. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121When FOX NEWS successfully criticizes your hysterical right wing delusions, you know you're in trouble...b,121b,121b/wb,121b,121JOE THE COUNTRY STAR - look out America!b, 21b, 21a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/15072.html" target="_blank"1http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/15072.html/a1
font class="post"1b,121b,121(qualified) props to the Fox newscaster for the clarifying statement at the end.b,121b,121Joe's response was pathetic: "I'll let your viewers go ahead and figure out why I said that...."b,121b,121what a farce of a campaign McCain is running. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121I consider it despicable when FOX goes out of their way to repeat outrageous internet slander and then says "you decide." This is certainly down that path, even with the Smith "challenges." I mean, the point of all of this, I assume, was to repeat the ludicrous assertions five or six times, while tut-tutting and tongue-clicking, before decrying them after adding that FOX has received "many e-mails" that agree with Joe.b,121b,121And I'm still not sure what Smith meant at the end about "the rest of it." The rest of Obama's beliefs, or Joe the Wurzelbacher's?
Jesus, are you ever slanted. Even when FOX dissects a thin argument and makes the slanderer look foolish, you're still upset because they're repeating remarks, which is akin to brainwashing? Dude, black and white exists sometimes, take it easy.
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font class="post"1b,121b,121Gotta give McCain's team a little credit here for sticking with the "no Rev Wright" pledge McCain made a while back. Speaking of which, what a dumb fi1[/i]ucking pledge. I mean, it sucks for this guy, but promising that is really just stupid when your gonna end up throwing the kitchen sink anyway....
^^ you know that's a great point, McCain has sold out a lot of his integrity but at least the man keeps his word. To give him even more credit, it's not over, but for some reason i was thinking of him walking home from the subway. Felt bad for him, he got dicked over by Rove and his own party in '00 and yet still he sold away the dream for one last shot. As apalling as he is now, you have to wonder how much better the past eight years would have been w/ him instead of Bush.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121Jesus, are you ever slanted. Even when FOX dissects a thin argument and makes the slanderer look foolish, you're still upset because they're repeating remarks, which is akin to brainwashing? Dude, black and white exists sometimes, take it easy. b, 21b, 21h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121Repetition is the most effective form of advertising. Repeating slander (here about 5-6 times) is unnecessary at best and purposeful at worst. Brainwashing is a very aggrandized, LaRoucheian way to put it, but there it lies, in your own words.b,121b,121Ostensibly, you have been absent from the numerous threads wherein I have called Barack Obama on, among other things, his lack of clarity, an early lack of presentational depth, his propensity to sell out his stances (FISA, the handgun ban, etc.) and his continued sky-high $$$ promises in troubled financial times. I have also clearly denoted my distaste for Keith Olbermann's hideous, manufactured consternation and (early on, before the media-whoring fully commenced) the Dems' attack on Mr. Wurzelbacher. I have additionally remarked that I have voted for more Republicans then Democrats in my lifetime. You and your ??Egalitarian Spirit! clearly do not understand where I am coming from. Simply because I am voting for Barack Obama and have taken a stand against the proven-fomentatory actions of FOX News does not mean that I am not my own man.
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