The U.S. House of Representatives bill (PDF), which was introduced late Friday by top Democratic politicians, could give the movie and music industries a new revenue stream by pressuring schools into signing up for monthly subscription services such as Ruckus and Napster. Ruckus is advertising-supported, and Napster charges a monthly fee per student.[/b]
The bill is 747 pages! It is an extensions (and amendment to) The Higher Education Act. Since the Ds are in control, this expansive bill will favor their priorities. I doubt if many, or any of them, even know about the filesharing provisions at this point. I think page 381 of the bill is the section that concerns file sharing. It would add file sharing to a long list of crimes like rape and murder.
George Miller D CA and Ruben Hinojosa D TX are the sponsors.
I'm with KVH. Students and schools have been coddled by the feds for far to long. It's no secret that dorms and frats are warrens of vice. I say that all federal funds to schools and students should be stopped right now until the schools can prove there is no drug use, underage alcohol consumption, guns, sex, porn[/b] and plagiarized term papers. These things are illegal and WRONG. It's time that my tax dollars quit going to pay for this kind of disgusting immorality.
The bill is 747 pages! It is an extensions (and amendment to) The Higher Education Act. Since the Ds are in control, this expansive bill will favor their priorities. I doubt if many, or any of them, even know about the filesharing provisions at this point. I think page 381 of the bill is the section that concerns file sharing. It would add file sharing to a long list of crimes like rape and murder.
George Miller D CA and Ruben Hinojosa D TX are the sponsors.
If the RIAA & MPAA were serious about reducing piracy, they should have pushed a bill which proposes the opposite of what is being discusses here -- providing financial kickbacks for those schools who install anti-piracy measures on their campus networks.
Also, a question -- do US students have to sign anything when they are given Internet access in their dorms which states that the connection will not be used for any illegal activities?
Also, a question -- do US students have to sign anything when they are given Internet access in their dorms which states that the connection will not be used for any illegal activities?
Yes but it really means very little, I am yet to see a case where the campus has taken any real disciplinary measures against a student for simple downloading. There have been big violations though with students setting up filesharing servers using campus bandwidth though.
In the sense that privacy and access to education SHOULD be human rights, yes. But my point was that Congress' prioritization of corporations over people is consistent, whether the stakes are small (as they arguably are here) or large (see below).
oh, and please list the Dems (particularly in the senate) who are indistinguishable from republicans in their voting records.
How many Dems in the Senate voted against the Patriot Act again? Oh, that's right -- One (and so you don't run and check, their name wasn't "Clinton"). So should I list the other 49 for you?
If the Dems could have put forward a single Senator who'd voted against both the Patriot Act and the use of pre-emptive force in Iraq, they'd have taken the presidency in 2004. Unfortunately, none of the front-runners -- including your candidate -- had the backbone.
In the meantime, what about that quick exit you made in that other thread about Hillary's health-care plan once I linked you to Kucinich's? Would you still like to school me on how hers is more pro-people and less pro-corporate after reading his proposal? Please do.
Or are you still sticking with this nonsensical statemen in praise of Hillary:
"s-chip would be expanded and families would have the choice to stay with a private insurer[/b] or opt into medicaid. neither have anything to do with private insurance.[/b] " ???
How many Dems in the Senate voted against the Patriot Act again? Oh, that's right -- One (and so you don't run and check, their name wasn't "Clinton"). So should I list the other 49 for you?
If the Dems could have put forward a single Senator who'd voted against both the Patriot Act and the use of pre-emptive force in Iraq, they'd have taken the presidency in 2004. Unfortunately, none of the front-runners -- including your candidate -- had the backbone.
In the meantime, what about that quick exit you made in that other thread about Hillary's health-care plan once I linked you to Kucinich's? Would you still like to school me on how hers is more pro-people and less pro-corporate after reading his proposal? Please do.
Or are you still sticking with this nonsensical statemen in praise of Hillary:
"s-chip would be expanded and families would have the choice to stay with a private insurer[/b] or opt into medicaid. neither have anything to do with private insurance.[/b] " ???
Fuck outta here with your tired, suburban, slathered-in- "centrist" thinking.
dog, how many times are you gonna jump start a topic by making some ignorant statement, then try to wikipidea your way into sounding like you know what you are talking about???
you said that democrats are indistinguishable in their voting records in the house and "particularly in the senate"? right? then when i call you out, you refer to the f*cking patriot act, which was voted on back in 2001? how many thousands of bills have been voted on since then? how many times have the dems proposed legislation since jan that has been held up by the gop or vetoed by bush? did you have any clue what you were talking about when you said "particularly in the senate" or did you just want to sound like you actually read a newspaper?
as far as hillary goes, dude, get a life. you initiated that thread by making the statement that hillary's health care plan was entirely based on private insurers, right? and then you admitted that you never even read her plan? what was your point in posting my quote, that i made a typo?? her plan would expand medicaid so that it is an option to everyone, not just those who now qualify, just like using a private insurance company. her plan would also expand s-chip, which is for those families who don't meet the threshold for medicaid, but need govt assistance. those are FEDERAL programs. yes, private insurance will still exist in a hillary administration. did i ever say that it wouldn't? go read a newspaper and stop making statements about subjects that you haven't even read about it, before you start talking shit.
i exited after your link to kucinech's plan??? please.
Other than raising the minimum wage, what's one piece of legislation the Dems have pushed through that will make substantial quality of life increases for the average working-class American?
Other than raising the minimum wage, what's one piece of legislation the Dems have pushed through that will make substantial quality of life increases for the average working-class American?
tell me how this is any way relevant to your statement that "DEMS and the GOP are indistinguishable in their voting records, particularly in the senate"?
are you familiar with the process of how a bill becomes a law? were you awake this last year when the dems were trying to put benchmarks on the war, bring the troops home, expand s-chip, etc.?
To me it seems the bigger picture here is that the RIAA is trying to stop illegal downloads, period. They start by trying to go after one of the biggest groups - youth. What youth? Students. And so on. Next it will be high schools, then public access and finally they'll have a grip over places like Starbucks etc.
Also think about how pissed they must be at Radiohead who not only encourage downloads but throw all the old rules out the window by letting the consumer decide what (if anything) they should pay for an album.
Other than raising the minimum wage, what's one piece of legislation the Dems have pushed through that will make substantial quality of life increases for the average working-class American?
tell me how this is any way relevant to your statement that "DEMS and the GOP are indistinguishable in their voting records, particularly in the senate"?
are you familiar with the process of how a bill becomes a law? were you awake this last year when the dems were trying to put benchmarks on the war, bring the troops home, expand s-chip, etc.?
We can have a discussion, or you can keep making off-base assumptions about me. For the record, I not only read newspapers, I write for them, and I grew up with my father working on Capital Hill as an assistant to liberal Congressman Mo Udall, so I not only know how bills become laws, I've observed it happen and met some of the people who've made it happen.
You want to talk about Dems trying and failing to set limits or scale back an immoral war they bent over and helped to create? That's your sense of accomplishment? The fact that they still haven't figured out how to consistently outmanuever a president with an approval rating in the 25-30% range?
Cmon peoples, the real question in all this is "This is a priority for our Congressmen and women?" Really? There is nothing more important they can do with their time?
Tons of schoolkids in America can't read for comprehension, think critically or analytically for themselves, do simple math, point to Iraq on a map, understand simple science concepts,the list goes on and on. America's education system has fallen far behind many countries around the world, and the Federal gov. uses No Child Left Behind to make the numbers look better.
There are tons of energy alternatives not being utilized and Arctic, Antarctic, and glacial ice keep melting. The subduction of CO2 into the ocean's depths will significantly warm it, possibly causing frozen methane to be released into the atmosphere as gas, and that could kill millions and make areas of Earth's atmosphere flammable.
Tens of millions of Americans do not have health care of ANY kind. Car accident and they're fucked financially for a looooooooooooooooong time.
Millions of Americans are working all day and all night and on weekends to make ends meet.
American health, growth & development and stature measurements have declined in comparison to the rest of the world, while American infant mortality has increased significantly.
Since the assault weapons ban lapsed, violent crime has markedly increased in America.
I second the poster who said they will never buy another major label release again. At least I won't buy it new, that's for sure. Not a big sacrifice for me, but it's only a matter of time before casual music buyers stop too.
"How about a requirement that before we can receive U.S. mail, each of us has to certify to the Post Office that we don???t infringe copyright????The concept that the federal government will use coercive force through unrelated laws to enforce the rights of private individuals more than capable of enforcing their own rights is unprecedented, unnecessary, and unprincipled."
I guess people didn't get it...Y'all think Universities are a random target?? Hmmm...Wrong answer. This bill is motivated by other reasons (). And i bet you cutting funds is just a threat that won't go too far. Again, there's an hidden agenda behind this bill. There's some organizations* behind it. They worked a couple of years to see that bill. They won't let it go. But they will be lobbying for sure.
I suppose, that is if your idea of "well done" includes typos, annoying rhetoric, and terrible analogies.
I support the sentiment, though.
Well, I wasn't pushing it as a well done piece of literature. More on the message. I guess he should have noticed shit like writing risk twice in a row & stuff.
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It is equally ridiculous, to be sure.
The bill is 747 pages! It is an extensions (and amendment to) The Higher Education Act. Since the Ds are in control, this expansive bill will favor their priorities. I doubt if many, or any of them, even know about the filesharing provisions at this point. I think page 381 of the bill is the section that concerns file sharing. It would add file sharing to a long list of crimes like rape and murder.
George Miller D CA and Ruben Hinojosa D TX are the sponsors.
Porn is legal. Do your homework.
Lol. A technical writer you are not.
here's to them
Also, a question -- do US students have to sign anything when they are given Internet access in their dorms which states that the connection will not be used for any illegal activities?
Yes but it really means very little, I am yet to see a case where the campus has taken any real disciplinary measures against a student for simple downloading. There have been big violations though with students setting up filesharing servers using campus bandwidth though.
In the sense that privacy and access to education SHOULD be human rights, yes. But my point was that Congress' prioritization of corporations over people is consistent, whether the stakes are small (as they arguably are here) or large (see below).
How many Dems in the Senate voted against the Patriot Act again? Oh, that's right -- One (and so you don't run and check, their name wasn't "Clinton"). So should I list the other 49 for you?
If the Dems could have put forward a single Senator who'd voted against both the Patriot Act and the use of pre-emptive force in Iraq, they'd have taken the presidency in 2004. Unfortunately, none of the front-runners -- including your candidate -- had the backbone.
In the meantime, what about that quick exit you made in that other thread about Hillary's health-care plan once I linked you to Kucinich's? Would you still like to school me on how hers is more pro-people and less pro-corporate after reading his proposal? Please do.
Or are you still sticking with this nonsensical statemen in praise of Hillary:
"s-chip would be expanded and families would have the choice to stay with a private insurer[/b] or opt into medicaid. neither have anything to do with private insurance.[/b] " ???
http://www.soulstrut.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=975666&page=0&fpart=2&vc=1
Fuck outta here with your tired, suburban, slathered-in-
dog, how many times are you gonna jump start a topic by making some ignorant statement, then try to wikipidea your way into sounding like you know what you are talking about???
you said that democrats are indistinguishable in their voting records in the house and "particularly in the senate"? right? then when i call you out, you refer to the f*cking patriot act, which was voted on back in 2001? how many thousands of bills have been voted on since then? how many times have the dems proposed legislation since jan that has been held up by the gop or vetoed by bush? did you have any clue what you were talking about when you said "particularly in the senate" or did you just want to sound like you actually read a newspaper?
as far as hillary goes, dude, get a life. you initiated that thread by making the statement that hillary's health care plan was entirely based on private insurers, right? and then you admitted that you never even read her plan? what was your point in posting my quote, that i made a typo?? her plan would expand medicaid so that it is an option to everyone, not just those who now qualify, just like using a private insurance company. her plan would also expand s-chip, which is for those families who don't meet the threshold for medicaid, but need govt assistance. those are FEDERAL programs. yes, private insurance will still exist in a hillary administration. did i ever say that it wouldn't? go read a newspaper and stop making statements about subjects that you haven't even read about it, before you start talking shit.
i exited after your link to kucinech's plan??? please.
tell me how this is any way relevant to your statement that "DEMS and the GOP are indistinguishable in their voting records, particularly in the senate"?
are you familiar with the process of how a bill becomes a law? were you awake this last year when the dems were trying to put benchmarks on the war, bring the troops home, expand s-chip, etc.?
They start by trying to go after one of the biggest groups - youth. What youth? Students. And so on. Next it will be high schools, then public access and finally they'll have a grip over places like Starbucks etc.
Also think about how pissed they must be at Radiohead who not only encourage downloads but throw all the old rules out the window by letting the consumer decide what (if anything) they should pay for an album.
We can have a discussion, or you can keep making off-base assumptions about me. For the record, I not only read newspapers, I write for them, and I grew up with my father working on Capital Hill as an assistant to liberal Congressman Mo Udall, so I not only know how bills become laws, I've observed it happen and met some of the people who've made it happen.
You want to talk about Dems trying and failing to set limits or scale back an immoral war they bent over and helped to create? That's your sense of accomplishment? The fact that they still haven't figured out how to consistently outmanuever a president with an approval rating in the 25-30% range?
Tons of schoolkids in America can't read for comprehension, think critically or analytically for themselves, do simple math, point to Iraq on a map, understand simple science concepts,the list goes on and on. America's education system has fallen far behind many countries around the world, and the Federal gov. uses No Child Left Behind to make the numbers look better.
There are tons of energy alternatives not being utilized and Arctic, Antarctic, and glacial ice keep melting. The subduction of CO2 into the ocean's depths will significantly warm it, possibly causing frozen methane to be released into the atmosphere as gas, and that could kill millions and make areas of Earth's atmosphere flammable.
Tens of millions of Americans do not have health care of ANY kind. Car accident and they're fucked financially for a looooooooooooooooong time.
Millions of Americans are working all day and all night and on weekends to make ends meet.
American health, growth & development and stature measurements have declined in comparison to the rest of the world, while American infant mortality has increased significantly.
Since the assault weapons ban lapsed, violent crime has markedly increased in America.
Your government is not representing you.
Understatement of the millenium thus far.
I second the poster who said they will never buy another major label release again. At least I won't buy it new, that's for sure. Not a big sacrifice for me, but it's only a matter of time before casual music buyers stop too.
http://www.bizorigin.com/2007/riaa_nuclear_option
Interesting read.
I suppose, that is if your idea of "well done" includes typos, annoying rhetoric, and terrible analogies.
I support the sentiment, though.
* BSA, MPAA and Dreamworks mostly...
Well, I wasn't pushing it as a well done piece of literature. More on the message. I guess he should have noticed shit like writing risk twice in a row & stuff.
In any case. I'm glad you support the sentiment.