Prophets of Soul Questions

SoulOnIceSoulOnIce 13,027 Posts
edited July 2007 in Strut Central
Seeing Day's post in the wants forum hadme wondering about this album. First off,I've owned it for nearly 10 years and stilldon't know if the group is Prophets of Souland the album "The Gregory James Edition"or vice versa. I always assumed the latter buthave seen it both ways in a hundred places.The other, and more important, question is -does anyone have a 45 from this album, or everseen one? I mean, Dakar is not a label that wasshy about releasing 45's, I feel like I've seensingles from every album I know of on the labelexcept Prophets/GJE ... in fact, a 45 would answerthe first question once and for all, unless one sideof the label was credited to Prophets of Soul andthe other side to Gregory James Edition But I really want to know about singles because a45 of "Changing Things" would have to sound 100xbetter than the album, which I think has some prettysick cuts but may suffer a bit from a quiet pressing.

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  • youngEINSTEINyoungEINSTEIN 2,443 Posts
    i always assumed the band was called the gregory james edition and the album title was "prophets of soul". awesome record. very unique sounds. peace, stein. . .

  • SoulOnIceSoulOnIce 13,027 Posts
    Duh, "Edition" not "Experience" - I edited my post.
    Too much partying on the mid-week day off!

  • dayday 9,611 Posts
    Seeing Day's post in the wants forum had
    me wondering about this album. First off,
    I've owned it for nearly 10 years and still
    don't know if the group is Prophets of Soul
    and the album "The Gregory James Edition"
    or vice versa. I always assumed the latter but
    have seen it both ways in a hundred places.

    The other, and more important, question is -
    does anyone have a 45 from this album, or ever
    seen one? I mean, Dakar is not a label that was
    shy about releasing 45's, I feel like I've seen
    singles from every album I know of on the label
    except Prophets/GJE ... in fact, a 45 would answer
    the first question once and for all, unless one side
    of the label was credited to Prophets of Soul and
    the other side to Gregory James Edition
    But I really want to know about singles because a
    45 of "Changing Things" would have to sound 100x
    better than the album, which I think has some pretty
    sick cuts but may suffer a bit from a quiet pressing.


    I was wondering that too. I can only assume the group is Gregory James Edition and the album is called "Prophets of Soul", but really, who knows. What does the spine say? Most times they name the group first.

    To answer your question about singles, I'm pretty sure I came across a 7" or two from the group while looking for it, but I was so intent on finding the album I didn't bother to check.
    "Changing Things" is the main reason I want this record. Rarely does something come along that makes me re-think music, but they were on some other shit with that song. When the synth line comes in it takes it to another level.

    Now someone plaese to sell me a copy!

  • SoulOnIceSoulOnIce 13,027 Posts
    ... and the thing is, if you do a google search,
    you'll see 500 references to the band being Prophets ..
    and another 500 to them being Gregory James ...

    I could swear I read something a while back in which
    somebody claimed to know of another record by the group
    released privately or on a smaller label, where they were
    billed as Prophets of Soul ... but I can't find it now.

  • dayday 9,611 Posts
    ... and the thing is, if you do a google search,
    you'll see 500 references to the band being Prophets ..
    and another 500 to them being Gregory James ...

    I could swear I read something a while back in which
    somebody claimed to know of another record by the group
    released privately or on a smaller label, where they were
    billed as Prophets of Soul ... but I can't find it now.

    I just checked and found this:

    Prophet of Soul Gregory James Edition


    * Release Date: 1973
    * Genre: Rock (?)

    * Artist: Gregory James[/b]


    THEN it lists the performers as Prophets of Soul?!

    Brother Marcus
    ...
    Gregory Bibbs Prophets of Soul (3:03)
    Ain't No Sunshine
    ...
    Bill Withers Prophets of Soul (3:49)
    Grandma Heavy
    ...
    Prophets of Soul (2:20)
    Theme from Shaft
    ...
    Isaac Hayes Prophets of Soul (5:23)
    Changing Things
    ...
    Gregory Bibbs Prophets of Soul (5:33)
    Love And Happiness
    ...
    Al Green, Mabon "Teenie" Hodges Prophets of Soul (2:48)
    Make It Easy on Yourself
    ...
    Burt Bacharach, Hal David Prophets of Soul (5:27)




    http://www.answers.com/topic/prophet-of-soul-gregory-james-edition?cat=entertainment

  • high_chigh_c 1,384 Posts


    non LP cut I believe

  • SoulOnIceSoulOnIce 13,027 Posts
    Rarely does something come along that makes me re-think music, but they were on some other shit with that song.


    Not to get all "Amen-Break Scholar"-esque about it, but I
    always felt like that flanged and phased drum break was one of
    those "they invented electro/techno/jungle in 1973" type-moments.

    Blew my mind the first time(s) I played it.

  • dayday 9,611 Posts


    non LP cut I believe

    C**d, since you're here, you know anything about this?




    It's another record from Douglas High School. I talked to Chris at GM about it but I know you have a few of their records and thought you might know what's up. It's a double LP from a talent show and I'm missing one of the albums

    [/end thread jack]

  • SoulOnIceSoulOnIce 13,027 Posts


    Well, that answers the name question.
    I wish I could find my copy, I'll have to look
    for it, because I swear the liner notes added to
    the confusion with some weird thing where it's
    like "they were the Prophets of Soul and now
    this is the Gregory James Edition" so you're
    like "huh?" but I'll have to dig it out and see.

    Moot point now, anyway, since the 45 label tells all.


    And I STILL want "Changing Things" on a nice loud 45!

  • dayday 9,611 Posts
    Rarely does something come along that makes me re-think music, but they were on some other shit with that song.


    Not to get all "Amen-Break Scholar"-esque about it, but I
    always felt like that flanged and phased drum break was one of
    those "they invented electro/techno/jungle in 1973" type-moments.

    Blew my mind the first time(s) I played it.

    Yeah, the dude who put me up on this said it was like a pre-cursor to D&B? I'm not sure but that breakdown also sounds like a rip off of "Soul Pride".

  • high_chigh_c 1,384 Posts
    Dude, Weren't you checkin reh*shmedi*.c*m in 02?


    old school douglas tribute post:

    http://www.rehashrecordings.com/rmnew/randomish.asp?id=soulpic

  • SoulOnIceSoulOnIce 13,027 Posts
    that breakdown also sounds like a rip off of "Soul Pride".

    true, that.

  • dayday 9,611 Posts
    Dude, Weren't you checkin reh*shmedi*.c*m in 02?


    old school douglas tribute post:

    http://www.rehashrecordings.com/rmnew/randomish.asp?id=soulpic

    Yezzir that's why I know you know what's up. When I did a search for info on the record the only thing that came up was YOUSE GUYS. There's some interesting moments on this record though. I have the one with the Soulettes but I want to know what I'm missing on the other LP!

  • dayday 9,611 Posts
    p.s. it feels good to talk about music for a change

  • drewnicedrewnice 5,465 Posts
    Yeah, I've been curious about this record. Any audio?

  • SoulOnIceSoulOnIce 13,027 Posts
    I'll look for my copy. I pulled it out for 2 seconds
    last week while pulling trades for my swap - it always
    gets pulled for a second cause I know I could trade it
    for heat, but then I think naw, I like it too much.

    I should have had it ready before I started the thread, though.
    There I go again, unprepared as always! If nobody beats me to it
    before I find it, I'll post up a track or two.

  • dayday 9,611 Posts
    I can do a real heads if folks want it.

  • high_chigh_c 1,384 Posts
    Dude, Weren't you checkin reh*shmedi*.c*m in 02?


    old school douglas tribute post:

    http://www.rehashrecordings.com/rmnew/randomish.asp?id=soulpic

    Yezzir that's why I know you know what's up. When I did a search for info on the record the only thing that came up was YOUSE GUYS. There's some interesting moments on this record though. I want to know what I'm missing on the other LP!

    Yeah, not sure which disc the audio posted above is on... but I do remember that the given selection was the best thing to be found on both discs. Blackout is definitely a more solid straight-up funk LP where this one is more of a slide show with segments of songs. But that Impressions cover towards the end where all the girls go nuts for "understaaaaaaaaaaaaand why" is the shit. Oh yeah, and trade me this (1/2)LP.
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