The best of Soul Train

El PrezEl Prez NE Ohio 1,141 Posts
edited April 2007 in Strut Central
Umm excuse if I am late...I turned on my television this past Saturday night and realized that Soul Train was showing old 70's re-runs....this episode had Rufus and also Billy Preston.. if they are gonna keep doing this I am recording all this on my DVR...anyone else catch this?

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  • johmbolayajohmbolaya 4,472 Posts
    Umm excuse if I am late...I turned on my television this past Saturday night and realized that Soul Train was showing old 70's re-runs....this episode had Rufus and also Billy Preston.. if they are gonna keep doing this I am recording all this on my DVR...anyone else catch this?

    They've been doing that since late last year, lots of great stuff. The Wikipedia entry says the show might be close to being canceled, and that may be why the old stuff is being shown. Not sure how true that is.

  • pickwick33pickwick33 8,946 Posts
    Everytime I've tuned in to The Best Of Soul Train it was always something from the post-disco era, say 1979-84...not to sound like a moldy fig but I keep wishing for something from the pre-disco years (1971-75).

  • johmbolayajohmbolaya 4,472 Posts
    Everytime I've tuned in to The Best Of Soul Train it was always something from the post-disco era, say 1979-84...not to sound like a moldy fig but I keep wishing for something from the pre-disco years (1971-75).

    Same here, although last week the show with Billy Preston and Rufus (1974) was nice. I would prefer to see the shows from that era, and they don't have a set schedule as to what shows will play when. It seems random.

  • Phill_MostPhill_Most 4,594 Posts
    you need the 1st season of Soul Train... what was it, 1970 or 71? those episodes are TOTALLY

    the fashions and the dancing in that 1st season are

  • pickwick33pickwick33 8,946 Posts
    you need the 1st season of Soul Train... what was it, 1970 or 71?

    1971 - that's when they went national. (They had just begun as a local show in Chicago in 1970.)

    I do have a DVD of a couple of complete 1972 eps...apart from the obvious (BETTER MUSIC!!), the kids seem to be a lot more enthusiastic, not posing as much as later.

  • they showed the sugarhill gang a few weeks ago. That was great. Don Cornelius kept asking what rapping is, he totally didn't understand what was going on.

    I also found it funny when he asked them their names. I guess rap guys were really the first ones to make up their own names. So when he asked they all gave their government names. I couldn't picture that today.

  • El PrezEl Prez NE Ohio 1,141 Posts
    Maybe Don Cornelious (sp?) will release his choke hold on the rights etc to Soul Train and more of the old footage etc will get out there.... guess BET made Soul Trian irrelevant. And the way Don Cornelious was with the show reminds me of that old cat who has alot of records and thinks they may be worth money but won't sel eml because he figures the longer he holds on to em the more they will be worth....

  • pickwick33pickwick33 8,946 Posts
    they showed the sugarhill gang a few weeks ago. That was great. Don Cornelius kept asking what rapping is, he totally didn't understand what was going on.

    But rap was still new, then, so how could he possibly know?

  • pickwick33pickwick33 8,946 Posts
    Maybe Don Cornelious (sp?) will release his choke hold on the rights etc to Soul Train and more of the old footage etc will get out there.... guess BET made Soul Trian irrelevant. And the way Don Cornelious was with the show reminds me of that old cat who has alot of records and thinks they may be worth money but won't sel eml because he figures the longer he holds on to em the more they will be worth....

    Cornelius' choke hold must not be that tight - I see more Soul Trains on the Youtube/bootleg video circuit than American Bandstands, which are relatively scarce.

  • they showed the sugarhill gang a few weeks ago. That was great. Don Cornelius kept asking what rapping is, he totally didn't understand what was going on.

    But rap was still new, then, so how could he possibly know?

    Right that's what I'm saying. I didn't mean it like Don was a cornball. I meant it was interesting to see that because it's hard to imagine now rap being so new that he couldn't even get what it was. It was interesting to see the start of a new form of music and watching someone explain what it was.

  • Controller_7Controller_7 4,052 Posts
    can anyone explain the lip syncing thing? Is that something Cornelius insited on? Maybe this is common knowledge, but i've never bothered to find out what the answer was.


    It's so awkward when a band is jamming out and then the music fades and they are still playing. And some people are not so good at the lip/instrument syncing. Sometimes I can't tell if certain bands were really playing, but it seems like the majority of bands had to do the sync up.

    What the deal Don?

  • pickwick33pickwick33 8,946 Posts
    can anyone explain the lip syncing thing? Is that something Cornelius insited on? Maybe this is common knowledge, but i've never bothered to find out what the answer was.

    That's just the way things were done back then. Not just Soul Train, but Bandstand, sometimes The!!!Beat and Upbeat - that was just a cost-cutting fact of life, this wasn't something you questioned.

    Every now and then some act like Mandrill or Ike & Tina Turner would perform live, but these were natural exceptions.

  • Controller_7Controller_7 4,052 Posts
    then why do they still do it today? The more recent Soul Trains still do it. Maybe it's tradition now. It's more painfully obvious with some of the artists today. I've seen some rappers do the "hold the mic with my fingers in front of my mouth" thing and it looked somewhat more convincing, but not really.


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  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    then why do they still do it today? The more recent Soul Trains still do it. Maybe it's tradition now. It's more painfully obvious with some of the artists today. I've seen some rappers do the "hold the mic with my fingers in front of my mouth" thing and it looked somewhat more convincing, but not really.

    "You better sound like what i heard on the radio!"

    "Why is the bassline faster!"

    "You cant hit that note?"

    "How come the guitar solo is longer?"

    "Sell the record, not the group!"

  • SoulOnIceSoulOnIce 13,027 Posts
    This thread is missing some serious youtube illustration.


    Allow me to unbutton my Lee denim:


  • El PrezEl Prez NE Ohio 1,141 Posts
    Maybe Don Cornelious (sp?) will release his choke hold on the rights etc to Soul Train and more of the old footage etc will get out there.... guess BET made Soul Trian irrelevant. And the way Don Cornelious was with the show reminds me of that old cat who has alot of records and thinks they may be worth money but won't sel eml because he figures the longer he holds on to em the more they will be worth....

    Cornelius' choke hold must not be that tight - I see more Soul Trains on the Youtube/bootleg video circuit than American Bandstands, which are relatively scarce.

    I mean "official" stuff directly from Don Cornelious productions.... as an example didn't Queslove have to go to Japan in order to get copies of the old 70's show's... I may be wrong but I remember it being impossible to get licensed Soul Train footage.

  • pickwick33pickwick33 8,946 Posts
    then why do they still do it today?

    Ah, who said they stopped? You know good and well they STILL do it in the videos.

    Having grown up as a kid watching these kind of shows in the seventies, the procedure doesn't shock me.

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    a minute ago Don was talkin about a Soul Train 24 hr channel. I guess he was prepared to open the vaults.

  • pickwick33pickwick33 8,946 Posts
    a minute ago Don was talkin about a Soul Train 24 hr channel. I guess he was prepared to open the vaults.

    If they showed a marathon of early-70s Soul Trains I would never leave the house.

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    a minute ago Don was talkin about a Soul Train 24 hr channel. I guess he was prepared to open the vaults.

    If they showed a marathon of early-70s Soul Trains I would never leave the house.

    Forget about it.

  • pickwick33pickwick33 8,946 Posts
    a minute ago Don was talkin about a Soul Train 24 hr channel. I guess he was prepared to open the vaults.

    If they showed a marathon of early-70s Soul Trains I would never leave the house.

    Forget about it.

    I know, that's why I said "if." THANK GOD FOR THEM BOOTLEG VIDEOS!!!!

    Actual eps of Soul Train I'd love to see:
    - Chuck Berry/Maxayn (1973)
    - Melvin Van Peebles (1974 - apparently he's doing songs from that What The...You Mean I Cant Sing? album)
    - Chambers Brothers (1971)
    - Charles Wright & the Watts 103rd St. Rhythm Band (1971)
    - any ep with the Chairmen of the Board on it
    - the one from 1973 with Don Cornelius dancing down the Soul Train line with one of the Supremes!!!

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    a minute ago Don was talkin about a Soul Train 24 hr channel. I guess he was prepared to open the vaults.

    If they showed a marathon of early-70s Soul Trains I would never leave the house.

    Forget about it.

    I know, that's why I said "if." THANK GOD FOR THEM BOOTLEG VIDEOS!!!!

    Actual eps of Soul Train I'd love to see:
    - Chuck Berry/Maxayn (1973)
    - Melvin Van Peebles (1974 - apparently he's doing songs from that What The...You Mean I Cant Sing? album)
    - Chambers Brothers (1971)
    - Charles Wright & the Watts 103rd St. Rhythm Band (1971)
    - any ep with the Chairmen of the Board on it
    - the one from 1973 with Don Cornelius dancing down the Soul Train line with one of the Supremes!!!

    Damn!!! Im not old enuff to remember the 70-73 stuff. i wonder if that was when he was still kinda flying under the radar w/ sponsers and was able to feature a wider range of artists? Im from the 76 and up era.
    Do you remember Jodi Whatley as a Soul Train dancer?

  • pickwick33pickwick33 8,946 Posts
    Actual eps of Soul Train I'd love to see:
    - Chuck Berry/Maxayn (1973)
    - Melvin Van Peebles (1974 - apparently he's doing songs from that What The...You Mean I Cant Sing? album)
    - Chambers Brothers (1971)
    - Charles Wright & the Watts 103rd St. Rhythm Band (1971)
    - any ep with the Chairmen of the Board on it
    - the one from 1973 with Don Cornelius dancing down the Soul Train line with one of the Supremes!!!

    Damn!!! Im not old enuff to remember the 70-73 stuff. i wonder if that was when he was still kinda flying under the radar w/ sponsers and was able to feature a wider range of artists?

    Well, Soul Train had it's sponsors nailed down tight from the gitgo (including Sears and Johnson cosmetics), and just the acts I just listed were all popular to an extent, so they weren't exactly "flying under the radar."

    (Chuck Berry!!! I'll bet Cornelius gave the kids a serious pep talk beforehand, or they just did that one out of respect. I'm quite sure the black teens of 1972-73 weren't bumping "My Ding-A-Ling" on their 8-track tapes.)

    Im from the 76 and up era.
    Do you remember Jodi Whatley as a Soul Train dancer?

    I don't recall seeing her, but I think I remember seeing Jermaine Stewart dancing on the Chicago version. (NOTE: after Soul Train went national, the original Chicago Train kept running locally on UHF television for years, telecast in black & white, with a different host and B-list, midchart acts like the Escorts, the Majestic Arrows and a pre-fame Funkadelic. Any surviving clips? Ha ha ha ha ha!!!)

  • SoulOnIceSoulOnIce 13,027 Posts
    the original Chicago Train kept running locally on UHF television for years, telecast in black & white, with a different host and B-list, midchart acts like the Escorts, the Majestic Arrows and a pre-fame Funkadelic. Any surviving clips? Ha ha ha ha ha!!!)



  • El PrezEl Prez NE Ohio 1,141 Posts
    (NOTE: after Soul Train went national, the original Chicago Train kept running locally on UHF television for years, telecast in black & white, with a different host and B-list, midchart acts like the Escorts, the Majestic Arrows and a pre-fame Funkadelic. Any surviving clips? Ha ha ha ha ha!!!)

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